Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-16 Thread Gervase Markham
On 15/07/13 14:57, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: Or it means that we need to be willing to issue dot-releases to update these items. We're pretty nimble with the desktop release cycle already. We should definitely measure this tradeoff before doing a bunch of engineering on this. As I understand

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/07/13 21:12, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: Would such an update increment the version number? I suspect you'd want to be able to easily determine if an update has been applied, and having to distinguish e.g. Firefox 30 without update 1 vs. Firefox 30 with update 1 could be annoying (and

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-15 Thread Gervase Markham
On 13/07/13 00:36, Clint Talbert wrote: This is all good stuff, and I want to support us being nimble. We also need to balance that against security and quality in our builds. We go through the release process for a reason, and we exert the energy to QA these builds and ensure we can update

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-15 Thread Ben Hearsum
On 07/12/13 05:37 PM, Robert Strong wrote: On 7/12/2013 1:12 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Gervase Markham g...@mozilla.org wrote: We keep hitting cases where we would like Firefoxes in the field to have some data updated using a process which is much lighter

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-15 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 7/15/2013 9:30 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: On 13/07/13 00:36, Clint Talbert wrote: This is all good stuff, and I want to support us being nimble. We also need to balance that against security and quality in our builds. We go through the release process for a reason, and we exert the energy to

Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Gervase Markham
We keep hitting cases where we would like Firefoxes in the field to have some data updated using a process which is much lighter in expended effort than shipping a security release. Here are some examples of the data Firefox stores that I know of which might benefit from this: - The Public Suffix

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Nicholas Nethercote
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Gervase Markham g...@mozilla.org wrote: We keep hitting cases where we would like Firefoxes in the field to have some data updated using a process which is much lighter in expended effort than shipping a security release. Would such an update increment the

Re: [webdev] Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/07/13 18:20, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: I think the general concept of making more of our lists be dynamic is sound, but I'm very skeptical of the technical solution that you appear to be outlining. The technical solution was 3 minutes on the back of an envelope. Feel free to tear it apart

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Robert Strong
On 7/12/2013 1:12 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Gervase Markham g...@mozilla.org wrote: We keep hitting cases where we would like Firefoxes in the field to have some data updated using a process which is much lighter in expended effort than shipping a security

Re: Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Clint Talbert
On 7/12/2013 9:49 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: We keep hitting cases where we would like Firefoxes in the field to have some data updated using a process which is much lighter in expended effort than shipping a security release. Here are some examples of the data Firefox stores that I know of

Re: [webdev] Generic data update service?

2013-07-12 Thread Mark Finkle
Couldn't the add-on hotfix approach be used for some of these items? - Original Message - On 12/07/13 18:20, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: I think the general concept of making more of our lists be dynamic is sound, but I'm very skeptical of the technical solution that you appear to