On 20.05.2014 23:33, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
On 2014-05-20, 2:25 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Justin Dolske dol...@mozilla.com
wrote:
However we do implement some additional features in private browsing
mode. For example we disable link coloring. I'm not sure what
On 2014-05-21, 4:38 AM, Frederik Braun wrote:
On 20.05.2014 23:33, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
On 2014-05-20, 2:25 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Justin Dolske dol...@mozilla.com
wrote:
However we do implement some additional features in private browsing
mode. For
On Fri 16 May 2014 07:45:22 AM PDT, Justin Dolske wrote:
On 5/16/14, 6:38 AM, Curtis Koenig wrote:
Would this be disabled in Private Browsing? If not that might be
perceived as negating one of the reasons users have for using that
particular feature.
Private Browsing mode is about not
On 2014-05-20, 6:43 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com wrote:
But I believe that that would be a pretty crappy private browsing
feature which I don't think anyone here would argue for.
Private browsing is mainly about giving you a
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Jonathan Kew jfkth...@gmail.com wrote:
You actually don't, since Google doesn't add the tracking stuff to
the link until you click it. But it adds it early enough in click
handling so that it affects what happens when you click the link.
Yes; but even if I
On 16/5/14 10:29, Tim Taubert wrote:
*Link to Standard*
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#hyperlink-auditing
A couple of quotes from there:
User agents should allow the user to adjust this behavior, for example
in conjunction with a setting that disables the sending of HTTP
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Jonathan Kew jfkth...@gmail.com wrote:
When I click a Google search result (for example), I can see -- thanks to
the status overlay that shows the URLs being requested -- that it's
redirecting me via a Google URL that is presumably being used to track me.
So
Jonathan Kew wrote:
When I click a Google search result (for example), I can see -- thanks
to the status overlay that shows the URLs being requested -- that it's
redirecting me via a Google URL that is presumably being used to track
me. So although this is hardly an optimal UI, at least I get
On 16/5/14 13:02, L. David Baron wrote:
On Friday 2014-05-16 12:49 +0100, Jonathan Kew wrote:
When I click a Google search result (for example), I can see --
thanks to the status overlay that shows the URLs being requested --
that it's redirecting me via a Google URL that is presumably being
On Friday 2014-05-16 13:35 +0100, Jonathan Kew wrote:
Maybe that's OK, but I do think this changes things in a significant
way, and we should give some priority to addressing the concerns.
Maybe the send-ping preference should be exposed at a similar level
to Do Not Track?
There's a tradeoff
L. David Baron wrote:
We need to be careful to design the preferences we expose to the
user in ways that make sense even if sites don't want to honor those
preferences. It's not clear to me that it makes sense to have a
preference to disable one particular tracking feature when sites can
do
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Curtis Koenig curt...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 16 May, 2014, at 09:11 AM, Tim Taubert ttaub...@mozilla.com wrote:
I think it really might make sense to remove the
preferences altogether
Given our stance on privacy[1] and commitment to Real Choices, Sensible
Curtis Koenig wrote:
Given our stance on privacy[1] and commitment to Real Choices, Sensible
Settings and User Control; I don’t believe removing the users ability to
control this preference would be a positive move. David’s point is more
correct in that we need to be careful as to how the
Would this be disabled in Private Browsing? If not that might be perceived as
negating one of the reasons users have for using that particular feature.
On 16 May, 2014, at 05:29 AM, Tim Taubert ttaub...@mozilla.com wrote:
*Link to Standard*
Curtis Koenig wrote:
Would this be disabled in Private Browsing? If not that might be perceived as
negating one of the reasons users have for using that particular feature.
Are sync XHRs and HTTP redirects disabled in private browsing? :)
- Tim
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On 16 May, 2014, at 09:37 AM, Kyle Huey m...@kylehuey.com wrote:
The point being made is that the preference is not a real choice. If
you disable this feature you can still be tracked in the exact same
way by methods that exist today and are not covered by the preference.
True, but those
Assuming I am understanding this correctly, it appears from this doc
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Supporting_per-window_private_browsing
that they maybe disabled in some instances of private browsing given changes in
Fx 20.
Forcing a channel into private mode
Usually, network
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Curtis Koenig curt...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 16 May, 2014, at 09:37 AM, Kyle Huey m...@kylehuey.com wrote:
The point being made is that the preference is not a real choice. If
you disable this feature you can still be tracked in the exact same
way by methods
Curtis Koenig wrote:
Assuming I am understanding this correctly, it appears from this doc
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Supporting_per-window_private_browsing
that they maybe disabled in some instances of private browsing given changes
in Fx 20.
The only thing I can see here is
On 16/5/14 14:37, Kyle Huey wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Curtis Koenig curt...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 16 May, 2014, at 09:11 AM, Tim Taubert ttaub...@mozilla.com wrote:
I think it really might make sense to remove the
preferences altogether
Given our stance on privacy[1] and
Jonathan Kew wrote:
On 16/5/14 14:37, Kyle Huey wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Curtis Koenig curt...@mozilla.com
The point being made is that the preference is not a real choice. If
you disable this feature you can still be tracked in the exact same
way by methods that exist today
On 5/16/14, 6:38 AM, Curtis Koenig wrote:
Would this be disabled in Private Browsing? If not that might be
perceived as negating one of the reasons users have for using that
particular feature.
Private Browsing mode is about not storing _local_ data from your
activities. It is explicitly not
On Friday 2014-05-16 08:58 -0400, Wesley Hardman wrote:
Can you detect if a ping is enabled? If so, having a preference isn't
going to be particularly useful as sites will just fallback to the redirect
method. If it is added as a UI preference, it needs to be silent, or else
the
On Friday 2014-05-16 09:40 -0400, Curtis Koenig wrote:
On 16 May, 2014, at 09:37 AM, Kyle Huey m...@kylehuey.com wrote:
The point being made is that the preference is not a real choice. If
you disable this feature you can still be tracked in the exact same
way by methods that exist today
Seems to me we should indicate pings in the link status text (bug 401352),
indicate pinging in the status text while we load the next page, and retain
the about:config pref to disable pinging.
The first two measures seem low-cost and constitute a strict improvement on
the current privacy
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