Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-24 Thread Gervase Markham
On 23/01/13 10:33, Henri Sivonen wrote: Anyway, it seems https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko_user_agent_string_reference isn't getting updated together with the code changes, which probably makes evangelism even harder than it would otherwise be. :-( Fixed - sorry about that.

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 07/01/13 18:48, JP Rosevear wrote: If I understand what you are proposing I think its reasonable given we are switching to the desktop UA. But I come from the camp that UA changes should be for a deeply clear benefit, simply it won't harm much is not an argument for change in a property

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-09 Thread Johnathan Nightingale
On Jan 7, 2013, at 1:48 PM, JP Rosevear wrote: On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 16:03 +, Gervase Markham wrote: Hi everyone, After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop the Tablet token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android browser and Chrome do, and

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2013-01-07 Thread JP Rosevear
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 16:03 +, Gervase Markham wrote: Hi everyone, After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop the Tablet token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android browser and Chrome do, and corresponds to option D) of my original options. So

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-20 Thread Gervase Markham
On 19/12/12 10:21, Gervase Markham wrote: On 18/12/12 18:51, Alex Keybl wrote: Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do we have a list of the most heavily used mobile tablet sites to verify that this change will not cause severe web regressions though? I will consult the wonderful Mr.

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-19 Thread Gervase Markham
On 18/12/12 18:51, Alex Keybl wrote: Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do we have a list of the most heavily used mobile tablet sites to verify that this change will not cause severe web regressions though? I will consult the wonderful Mr. Mandel. - This decision is going to be widely

Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-18 Thread Gervase Markham
Hi everyone, After taking all input into account, I have decided that we should drop the Tablet token from Fennec's UA on tablets. This is what Android browser and Chrome do, and corresponds to option D) of my original options. So for non-Mobile devices, it would be: Mozilla/5.0 (Android;

Re: Tablet vs. Touch: decision

2012-12-18 Thread Alex Keybl
- For the above reasons (short time, relatively small number of users), I am not too concerned that large numbers of web developers are going to have been detecting our Tablet string, or that this will lead to frustration at our ever-changing UA. Agreed that major fallout is unlikely - do