Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-07 Thread Daniel Veditz
On 11/5/09 10:37 AM, Kyle Hamilton wrote: then why not create an internal build of Firefox, embed your own root into it, and issue certificates from that root to the boxes that need it? You don't need a special build, of course. Anyone can easily add a new root into modern desktop browsers. It

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-07 Thread Daniel Veditz
On 11/5/09 5:16 AM, Paul van Brouwershaven wrote: What do you think of this certificate with the CN owa.b3cables.co.uk\ , again issued by Comodo. Serial: D2D0DAD5A1C3E785844AA3C72CA2B191 Not in CRL number 2361 Last Update Nov 5 12:35:19 2009 GMT CA's can prune expired certs from their

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/11/09 18:20, Florian Weimer wrote: Okay, then Mozilla has got a significant problem because some CAs issue certificates for domains not delegated from the ICANN root. These CA roots should not be on Mozilla's root CA list. Which ones? Gerv

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-06 Thread Gervase Markham
On 05/11/09 15:24, Ian G wrote: It's not utter nonsense it's intellectual property. The claim that IANA/ICANN controls the letters '.int' inside a corporation is fundamentally based on intellectual property. Also, the notion that the internetworking protocols cannot be used internally as

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-05 Thread Kyle Hamilton
then why not create an internal build of Firefox, embed your own root into it, and issue certificates from that root to the boxes that need it? Oh yeah, because people use computers for more than one purpose. A home machine can be used to VPN into work. Wake up, Mozilla. Your policy is not

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-05 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 11/05/2009 07:33 PM, Ian G: Now you're getting it. It is not acceptable to simply achieve consensus and go out and burn witches coz we all like that. What's wrong with achieving consensus? Others fight for years to achieve that. Here's a suggestion from Satan. Add to clause 7: *

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-05 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 11/05/2009 08:20 PM, Florian Weimer: Okay, then Mozilla has got a significant problem because some CAs issue certificates for domains not delegated from the ICANN root. These CA roots should not be on Mozilla's root CA list. Correct. We are working on that by and through various means.

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-05 Thread Dave Miller
In article 041120091844084030%justd...@mozilla.com, Dave Miller justd...@mozilla.com wrote: In article kbednvccenx9c2zxnz2dnuvz_g1i4...@mozilla.org, Eddy Nigg eddy_n...@startcom.org wrote: On 11/04/2009 11:13 PM, Dave Miller: Giganews says the original message got nailed as a binary

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-05 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 11/06/2009 01:42 AM, Dave Miller: Actually, looks like it is getting fixed. I just got this from Giganews support: 8 I agree, it was a false positive. The SSL cert looked enough like mime-encoded data to trip the filter. I've asked our programmers to look into tightening the

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-05 Thread PhoenixMylo
My apologies to a couple of people on this thread to whom I inadvertantly send private replies to. I will paraphrase my replies to those two individuals publicly: In short, 10.x.x.x or myserver or myserver.local (at least until such time ans IANA/ICANN sells .local to the highest bidder) are

A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Paul van Brouwershaven
Hi All, Yesterday I found a new false issued certificate for defence.external.int. It looks like the problems with Comodo are still not solved. Isn't it? The certificate below has been issued by Comodo just a few days ago on the domain external.int which hasn't been registered. I'm surprised

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Reed Loden: On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:19:48 +0100 Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote: * Paul van Brouwershaven: Yesterday I found a new false issued certificate for defence.external.int. It looks like the problems with Comodo are still not solved. Isn't it? Why do you think the

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 11/04/2009 09:31 PM, Florian Weimer: Does the CPS really say that? Where? If you don't mind, the Mozilla CA Policy requires under section 7: /for a certificate to be used for SSL-enabled servers, the CA takes reasonable measures to verify that the entity submitting the

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Paul van Brouwershaven
Florian Weimer schreef: By the way, how did you obtain a copy of the certificate? They certificate owner wanted a same certificate from an other CA because this certificate has very limited browser compatibility. (read supprot for mobile devices etc) No other CA could deliver this certificate

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Ian G
On 04/11/2009 20:43, Paul van Brouwershaven wrote: Florian Weimer schreef: By the way, how did you obtain a copy of the certificate? They certificate owner wanted a same certificate from an other CA because this certificate has very limited browser compatibility. (read supprot for mobile

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Paul van Brouwershaven
Ian G schreef: OK, so it's good to figure out all the facts before we jump to conclusions. How do you mean? Why does the client want this certificate? What is the use case here? This client uses .int for an internal domain, but this does not changes the case. The certificate should not be

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Dave Miller
In article 4af1d712.2070...@startcom.org, Eddy Nigg eddy_n...@startcom.org wrote: I'm again not seeing the original posting, why doesn't it come through? I see only your replies. Something with the mail - news gateway is broken :S Giganews says the original message got nailed as a binary

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 11/04/2009 11:13 PM, Dave Miller: Giganews says the original message got nailed as a binary post because of the included base64-encoded SSL certificate. Specially on these news groups this can happen from time to time. Is this something which can be fixed? -- Regards Signer: Eddy

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Collin Jackson
I've found several certificate authorities that issue certificates for internal domains, including Comodo, VeriSign, and completessl.com. Adam Barth and I filed a bug on this issue in 2007. These certificates are easy to acquire, but I don't see how they're less secure than HTTP, so we've been

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Paul van Brouwershaven
Collin Jackson schreef: I've found several certificate authorities that issue certificates for internal domains, including Comodo, VeriSign, and completessl.com. Adam Barth and I filed a bug on this issue in 2007. These certificates are easy to acquire, but I don't see how they're less secure

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Eddy Nigg
On 11/04/2009 11:32 PM, Collin Jackson: I've found several certificate authorities that issue certificates for internal domains, including Comodo, VeriSign, and completessl.com. Adam Barth and I filed a bug on this issue in 2007. These certificates are easy to acquire, but I don't see how

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Collin Jackson
Do you know what web site the client used to register it originally? If you register a certificate with a . in it, Comodo's instantssl.com store usually sends a domain validation email (to ad...@external.int, administra...@external.int, etc.). In this case, I would think the email would never

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Dave Miller
In article kbednvccenx9c2zxnz2dnuvz_g1i4...@mozilla.org, Eddy Nigg eddy_n...@startcom.org wrote: On 11/04/2009 11:13 PM, Dave Miller: Giganews says the original message got nailed as a binary post because of the included base64-encoded SSL certificate. Specially on these news

Re: A new false issued certificate by Comdo?

2009-11-04 Thread Ben Bucksch
On 04.11.2009 20:31, Florian Weimer wrote: * Reed Loden: $ whois -h whois.iana.org external.int Domain external.int not found. SSL certificates shouldn't be issued to domains that don't exist. ;) Does the CPS really say that? Where? SSL certs should be issued only to the