Re: do not track words

2012-08-25 Thread Sid Stamm
Hey Asa, > Should we care that the connotations of tracking are bad? I don't > think we should be striving for a neutral word. It is "tracking" > we're talking about here. To pretty it up to make it something that > people won't have a visceral reaction to would be to under-inform at > best and m

Re: do not track words

2012-08-20 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Matej Novak wrote: > " [ ] I do not want advertisers to track my Web use > " [ ] I want advertisers to track and retain my Web use across sites and > provide targeted content" If the pref was worded like this, wouldn't there be the risk that an entity that implem

Re: do not track words

2012-08-17 Thread chris hofmann
I think we are getting closer. We might be able to shorten I want advertisers to track and retain my Web use across sites and provide targeted content" to I want advertisers to watch my Web use to provide targeted ads" On 8/17/12 10:01 AM, Matej Novak wrote: That works over all, but I stil

Re: do not track words

2012-08-17 Thread Matej Novak
That works over all, but I still think that "I'm OK with" isn't strong enough a message for DNT: 0. Feels like that needs to be a much more deliberate statement of intent so it's clearly differentiated from the neutral state. I also wish we could shorten the language of that middle state below,

Re: do not track words

2012-08-16 Thread Florian Weimer
> On 8/16/2012 12:42 PM, Sid Stamm wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> Over in bug 765398 we've been discussing exposing a three-state DNT UI >> to users so they have an opportunity to opt-out (as with the old UI) but >> also opt-in to tracking. >> >> Problem is that the words we use are hard to pick. What d

Re: do not track words

2012-08-16 Thread chris hofmann
On 8/16/12 3:45 PM, Sid Stamm wrote: I commented in the bug, but I guess I should have commented here first. Just because we have three states in the code doesn't nessisarily mean we need three states in the UI. I think the choices to the user remain the same. Tell websites: " * I do

Re: do not track words

2012-08-16 Thread Sid Stamm
> I commented in the bug, but I guess I should have commented here first. > > Just because we have three states in the code doesn't nessisarily mean > we need three states in the UI. > > I think the choices to the user remain the same. > > Tell websites: > " * I do not want to be tracke

Re: do not track words

2012-08-16 Thread chris hofmann
On 8/16/12 12:51 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote: On 8/16/2012 12:42 PM, Sid Stamm wrote: Hey all, Over in bug 765398 we've been discussing exposing a three-state DNT UI to users so they have an opportunity to opt-out (as with the old UI) but also opt-in to tracking. Problem is that the words we use are

Re: do not track words

2012-08-16 Thread Asa Dotzler
On 8/16/2012 12:42 PM, Sid Stamm wrote: Hey all, Over in bug 765398 we've been discussing exposing a three-state DNT UI to users so they have an opportunity to opt-out (as with the old UI) but also opt-in to tracking. Problem is that the words we use are hard to pick. What do we represent to u