Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-02-05 Thread Man Ho (Certizen)
On 2/4/2015 10:27 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > So maybe the CP/CPS should indicate what the version is they comply > with, and update it on regular basis? Or maybe just say that they will > follow the updates? Since Mozilla's CP requires CA to submit audit report annually, the CA's assertion of compl

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-02-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2015-02-04 14:55, Man Ho (Certizen) wrote: But making a statement in CP/CPS means that CA "has already complied" with the "latest version" of BRs. In other words, CA has already complied with all potential changes of BRs at all time. Such statement could be a false statement when the "latest v

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-02-04 Thread Man Ho (Certizen)
On 2/4/2015 6:08 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > They are not refusing to comply, they > just want to change the location of the compliance statement. In practice, Webtrust BR audit report requires the CA's assertion of compliance with BRs. It is a proper place to make the compliance statement becau

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-02-04 Thread Gervase Markham
On 28/01/15 22:49, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > I have been asked if a CA can have their Webtrust audit statement > indicate their commitment to comply with the BRs, rather than putting > the commitment to comply statement in the CP/CPS. > Here are the reason: > > 1) We are not a member of CAB/Forum

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-02-01 Thread Man Ho (Certizen)
On 1/31/2015 3:42 AM, Jeremy Rowley wrote: > Snipped to try and make the convo less confusing. > > [MH] If that's the case, the trustworthiness of a Webtrust audit would be > weakened. Auditors should obtain the CA's assertion of compliance, and assess > whether it's reasonable with respect to

RE: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy Rowley
Snipped to try and make the convo less confusing. [MH] If that's the case, the trustworthiness of a Webtrust audit would be weakened. Auditors should obtain the CA's assertion of compliance, and assess whether it's reasonable with respect to the CA's CP/CPS and the target scope of audit (i.e.

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-30 Thread Man Ho (Certizen)
On 1/30/2015 5:59 AM, Jeremy Rowley wrote: >> Some initial thoughts: >> >> 1) Membership in the CAB Forum is not required for a CA to commit to >> complying with the BR, and if non-membership avoids any obligation to comply >> with the BRs, I think you'll quickly see a mass exodus from the group

RE: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-29 Thread Jeremy Rowley
Kurt said "I think that the webtrust audit is also based on a certain version of the BR and that they might not have been updated yet to check the latest version. So I think the audit report should indicate which version was checked. If an audit was not for the last version that doesn't mean C

RE: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-29 Thread Jeremy Rowley
> Some initial thoughts: > > 1) Membership in the CAB Forum is not required for a CA to commit to > complying with the BR, and if non-membership avoids any obligation to comply > with the BRs, I think you'll quickly see a mass exodus from the group. No > member of the CAB Forum is bound to its

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2015-01-28 23:49, Kathleen Wilson wrote: All, https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements Currently says: "The CA's CP or CPS documents must include a commitment to comply with the BRs, as described in BR section 8.3." section 8.3 says: | The CA SHALL publicly give effect to these Requ

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-29 Thread Man Ho (Certizen)
t; -Original Message- > From: dev-security-policy > [mailto:dev-security-policy-bounces+jeremy.rowley=digicert@lists.mozilla.org] > On Behalf Of Kathleen Wilson > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:49 PM > To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: Ques

Re: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-28 Thread Matt Palmer
Hi Kathleen, On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 02:49:22PM -0800, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements > Currently says: "The CA's CP or CPS documents must include a commitment to > comply with the BRs, as described in BR section 8.3." > > I have been asked if a CA can h

RE: Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-28 Thread Jeremy Rowley
n to this simple requirement is a mistake. Jeremy -Original Message- From: dev-security-policy [mailto:dev-security-policy-bounces+jeremy.rowley=digicert@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Wilson Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:49 PM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists

Question about BR Commitment to Comply

2015-01-28 Thread Kathleen Wilson
All, https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:BaselineRequirements Currently says: "The CA's CP or CPS documents must include a commitment to comply with the BRs, as described in BR section 8.3." I have been asked if a CA can have their Webtrust audit statement indicate their commitment to comply with the