Re: new MyFaces-Website on i.a.o

2004-11-22 Thread Manfred Geiler
Just to do some quick planning... First I must apologize, that my time spent on MyFaces was minimal in the last days or weeks. This is because I'm currently working hard on an important project at my company that does not leave me much air to breath. I hope that I can manage to spend a few

Re: new MyFaces-Website on i.a.o

2004-11-22 Thread Manfred Geiler
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi ... see inline. Well, now some quick brainstorming regarding the future of our MyFaces homepage: - We should displace the current www.myfaces.org page as soon as possible. Therefore we should bring all the content into the new page. Should not be a great effort

Re: [JIRA] spam ?

2004-11-27 Thread Manfred Geiler
ok, deleted reporting issues should be easy and without registration, I think. so we must live with dumb people... :-( Manfred Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi, I just saw this guy... http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-33 what's that? Best regards Mit freundlichen Grüßen -- Matthias

Re: SV: Javascript Hell

2004-12-01 Thread Manfred Geiler
of a page, and let jsp handle the rest (including the head). Also, it requires yet another step to use the component, and I really would like to avoid that. Sylvain. On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 10:04 +0100, Manfred Geiler wrote: Sylvain Vieujot wrote: On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 17:16 +0100, Manfred Geiler

Re: Mandatory javascript before the submit.

2004-12-03 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sylvain Vieujot wrote: I have a component that needs to execute a javascript before the forms submit. I tried to overload the form.submit() in javascript, but it doesn't seem to work. What do you mean by overload the form.submit() in javascript? Do you mean the onSubmit attribute? Manfred So,

Re: Proposal: decision making process

2005-01-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 What about this decision itself, do we need a meta decision process? ;-) Oh, I love recursive self-references :-) Manfred Heath Borders schrieb: +1 On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:44:07 +0100, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 regards, Martin On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 05:21:22 -0700, Bill Dudney

Re: MYFACES-81 concerning serialization and violation of JSF spec

2005-01-16 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 on sean schofields patch I never felt happy with SerializedView beeing serializable. SerializedView was serializable long ago, then we changed it to be according to the spec and removed it again. Now, I remember once again, why I removed the Serializable interface at that time - thanks sean.

Re: Two suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread Manfred Geiler
ok, done Manfred Sean Schofield schrieb: I propose the following changes: 1. Add the myfaces-dev@incubator.apache.org list to these notifications: Issue Created, Issue Updated, Issue Resolved and Issue Commented Since nobody seems to object to this part of your suggestions, can we go ahead with

[OT] Re: Two suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread Manfred Geiler
offtopic Bill Dudney wrote: In order not to be vote happy I'll just state my opinions :-) Please! My comment on vote happiness was an attempt to be funny. I never wanted to scare people off using the +/-1/0 shortcuts! :-) To bring back confidence: Nobody at no time ever will be indicted for

Re: A few more suggestions

2005-01-18 Thread Manfred Geiler
Anbody of you, who has experience with svn plugin for intellij IDEA? The diff tool in intellij is wonderful, it's the best I know and I love it. But I fear, that feature is not available with svn. So, -1 for SVN from my subjective POV as long as SVN is not integrated in IDEA Manfred Sean

Re: HtmlTableRenderer enhancement

2005-01-18 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 BTW, I switched this thread to dev list. Martin Marinschek schrieb: You are right, the hook-methods are not there... my +1 for adding them. regards, Martin On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:23:30 -0600, Heath Borders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I checked the cvs, and the latest version does not have

Re: JIRA suggestion

2005-02-02 Thread Manfred Geiler
Ok, just added a Nightly Build version as you suggested. Manfred Sean Schofield schrieb: I just added a bug that applies to the latest source code but not version 1.0.8 or 1.0.9. I was unable to specify the bug version as Unreleased. Ideally we add a Nightly Build version. I know we are not

Re: visibleOnUserRole not working?

2005-03-02 Thread Manfred Geiler
Alessandro, The visibleOnUserRole and enabledOnUserRole attributes cause the according component to be visible/enabled whenever the isUserInRole of the current HttpServletRequest returns true. Nothing more. So if it does not work, please check the JAAS configuration of your webcontainer. What

Re: Tree2

2005-03-03 Thread Manfred Geiler
Oliver, Sean, I do not understand every single issue in your current discussion, but what I see is some danger in the direction your discussion is heading for at the moment. Please, both, lean back for a few seconds. My stuff is better discussions are always counterproductive and often end with

Re: visibleOnUserRole not working?

2005-03-03 Thread Manfred Geiler
Alessandro Polverini schrieb: On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 22:39 +0100, Manfred Geiler wrote: Alessandro, The visibleOnUserRole and enabledOnUserRole attributes cause the according component to be visible/enabled whenever the isUserInRole of the current HttpServletRequest returns true. Nothing more. So

Re: [VOTE] Two tree controls

2005-03-14 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sean, Although I understand your agitation, I kindly ask you to sit back and cool down a little bit. Please do not abuse votings for personal reasons. I do not even get it out of your mail what you actually want to vote about: - vote, which tree is better? - vote, if we should have one or two

Re: document.form[x].onsubmit in

2005-03-15 Thread Manfred Geiler
Hm, Are sure this is not a browser issue? The link actually calls the form.submit() method as I remember. What does the Javascript Spec say about this? Manfred Sylvain Vieujot schrieb: If an h:commandLink is clicked, any form.onsubmit is skipped. This can lead to problems like unexpected reset

Re: Project structure and release policy (was Re: Components subproject)

2005-03-15 Thread Manfred Geiler
than one webapps in different contexts and every app had it's own javax.faces.* classes. Putting the myfaces-api.jar to /common/lib solved this problem and is also the right place as far as I understand the Tomcat structure. Manfred Thanks, Sylvain. On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 09:58 +0100, Manfred

Re: New documentation

2005-03-15 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sean Schofield schrieb: As Matthias mentioned in his announcment, there is some new documentation on the new site. I added a Components Tab and I copied the documentation for JSCookMenu as an example. There is also an empty template (basically what you now see for the Tree Table doucmentation)

Re: Project structure and release policy (was Re: Components subproject)

2005-03-16 Thread Manfred Geiler
Craig, Thanks for your valuable comments. -- inline Craig McClanahan schrieb: Inline. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:58:37 +0100, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your suggestions and hints about possible project structures. I fully aggree that there will be different development

Re: Project structure and release policy (was Re: Components subproject)

2005-03-16 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sean Schofield schrieb: 2. The Apache MyFaces Implementation (sub)-project This is the Main Project consisting of three parts: - MyFaces JSR-127 API - MyFaces Shared classes - MyFaces Implementation I think this is a worthy goal but there are some things to consider. As you say, shared

Re: [Vote] release candidate1 for Apache MyFaces

2005-03-17 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 Manfred Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Hi folks, Apache MyFaces project is proud to be next to provide the first release as a top level project inside of ASF. This would be the 1.0.9-beta. Beta, because we haven't passed the TCK yet. However the files for the RC1 are visible here:

Re: Problem with datatable and a default preserveDataModel=true

2005-03-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
Yes, of course, you are right. Default behaviour of h:datatable should be to NOT save the datamodel state. Well, I do not remember any recent change and I'm quite sure that this was the behaviour the last time I touched the datatable. Anybody out there who can bring some light into this case? ;-)

Re: Problem with datatable and a default preserveDataModel=true

2005-03-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
Heath, Thanks for illustrating this with such clear words. That's exactly what I meant. +1 for having x:fooBar always behave like h:fooBar as long as no additional attributes are added Manfred On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:00:03 -0600, Heath Borders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referencing what

Re: Automating Forrest

2005-03-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 for Ant 1.6 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:24:38 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean, there is a task for Ant inside of Apache Forrest. I had had trouble with a nightly build (from Forrest) some time ago, so I stopped there. It depends a Ant Version 1.6 (as far as I

Re: [jira] Commented: (MYFACES-143) JspTilesViewHandlerImpl expects everything to be a Tiles definition

2005-03-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
done On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:36:21 +0100 (CET), sean schofield (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-143?page=comments#action_61346 ] sean schofield commented on MYFACES-143: Actually it turns out

Re: Warning messages

2005-03-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
Yes, or better isWarnEnabled(). Warn level is probably the best for this kind of warnings. Manfred On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:00:14 -0600, Heath Borders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess if I just did a check for isDebugEnabled() first before going through the hassle of searching for a parent form,

Re: Warning messages

2005-03-24 Thread Manfred Geiler
, 21 Mar 2005 14:03:18 -0800, Korhonen, Kalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:06:46 +0100, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, or better isWarnEnabled(). Warn level is probably the best for this kind of warnings. ... and I wouldn't even bother doing isWarnEnabled

Re: Reminder: We need to rename CVS repository

2005-03-24 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks, Sean. After the release is finished we should make a short code stop and do the move. Another reminder for our TODO list at http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ProjectManagement (BTW, I'm not able to edit this page at the moment, Oliver did you set a write lock?) -MG On Mon, 21 Mar 2005

Re: Webapps src moved?!

2005-03-24 Thread Manfred Geiler
only come with its respective sources. regards, Martin On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:26:02 +0100, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, What was the reason to move the src dirs of the web applications into one webapps/src dir?! This breaks structure and is very confusing, IMHO. Each

[OT] Re: Holidays

2005-03-25 Thread Manfred Geiler
Martin, Hope you can stay in contact with us, no problem with gmail isn't it? Looking forward to nice pictures. Have a nice trip and take care! Manfred On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:02:30 +0100, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I wanted to sign off for my holidays - 1 month New

Re: HTMLEcoder and \n

2005-03-29 Thread Manfred Geiler
+0.9 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:28:09 -0400, Sylvain Vieujot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, as Oliver said, the spec says : all angle brackets should be converted to the ampersand xx semicolon syntax when rendering the value of the value attribute as the value of the component. And doesn't

Re: Question about custom render kits

2005-03-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
Perhaps a bug in the configurator, but it's more likely that he had some snarls with the default renderer type in his custom component. -M On Apr 1, 2005 6:15 AM, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of our users was trying to using their own extended version of tree2. In their

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Nightly builds are ready

2005-03-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks Sean! That's indeed a great leap forward. -M On Apr 1, 2005 12:36 AM, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally finished up with the nightly builds. They are being generated at 11:00 PM EST from my Linux server. They are being published to

Re: ResponseWriter.endDocument() vs. ADF Faces (and, hello)

2005-04-01 Thread Manfred Geiler
Hi Adam, Thanks for your valuable feedback. see inline On Mar 29, 2005 12:54 AM, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To introduce myself, name's Adam Winer: long standing member of the JSF EG(actually, essentially the only member still standing from the original JSF kickoff meeting), and

Re: test

2005-04-01 Thread Manfred Geiler
one-two-one-two On Apr 1, 2005 10:37 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test

Re: ResponseWriter.endDocument() vs. ADF Faces (and, hello)

2005-04-01 Thread Manfred Geiler
The autoscroll feature makes the browser page automatically jump down (and right) to the place where the user had scrolled before a page refresh. This happens regardless of which component caused the page refresh. So it's not a particular Renderer that might take advantage of autoscroll, it's the

Re: crosstable component (x:columns)

2005-04-06 Thread Manfred Geiler
see http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-171 On Mar 29, 2005 1:40 PM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathias, I tested your patch and it works. (after defining ui_column_attributes in myfaces_ext.tld) Thanks! I submitted that new custom component (and your example

Re: [jira] Commented: (MYFACES-171) Wrong src tree for UIColumns

2005-04-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
Key: MYFACES-171 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-171 Project: MyFaces Type: Task Versions: 1.0.9 beta Reporter: Manfred Geiler Priority: Minor UIColumns class for new crosstable component should

Re: Proposal: Modest Restructuring of MyFaces Project

2005-04-11 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sean, Thanks for your initiative. My thoughts and visions about the restructuring differ slightly, but I'm happy to dicuss this. Apache Faces (aka the JSF umbrella) == I personally like the idea of that umbrella project that could grow to become the home of all JSF

Re: Proposal: Modest Restructuring of MyFaces Project

2005-04-11 Thread Manfred Geiler
- (shortened) From: Manfred Geiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:09 PM To: MyFaces Development; Sean Schofield Subject: Re: Proposal: Modest Restructuring of MyFaces Project --- Sandbox === I would rather make this a subproject of Components (see

Re: Proposal: Modest Restructuring of MyFaces Project

2005-04-12 Thread Manfred Geiler
My intention was to signal new users more clearly that this library is independent of the myfaces implementation: myfaces-jsfcommons, a JSF Commons Library under the MyFaces brand. That was the idea behind, but perhaps I'm thinking too sophisticated :-) I'm ok with myfaces-commons too,

Re: Need to sign release jars

2005-04-12 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sean, I just added my pubkey and commited the KEYS file in MyFaces CVS root. James, is it ok to sign another committers key if he adds and commits his key to the KEYS file? I mean, is CVS log history safe enough to trust a key on the basis of it? Thanks, -Manfred On Apr 11, 2005 8:10 PM, James

[vote] Switch to Subversion

2005-04-13 Thread Manfred Geiler
Final release 1.0.9beta is only a question of hours now. After publication will be the best time to finally move our repository out of the incubator. We have already discussed and voted about the SVN issue, but there are some new and changed circumstances and I would like to find out if there are

Re: Who belongs to the 'apsite' group on Minotaur?

2005-04-14 Thread Manfred Geiler
Hej, look at http://geronimo.apache.org/download.html That's a perfect solution to our current problem! Let's do it the same way and call our current release MyFaces 1.0 Milestone 9. Milestone sounds better than beta, right? ;-) Regarding filename: IMHO, as long as we make clear that this is no

[announce] Now Available: Public Review Draft of the JavaServer Faces Technology 1.2 Specification (JSR 252)

2005-04-15 Thread Manfred Geiler
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Cheers, -Manfred

Re: [vote] Switch to Subversion

2005-04-15 Thread Manfred Geiler
For all WIndows users: TortoiseSVN is a good choice. Give it a try. IntelliJ users: I'm currently evaluating build #3281 with integrated SVN support. No problem so far. Oliver, yes, tool support is better (manifold) for CVS. Not really astonishing keeping the age of CVS in mind. Anyway, the ASF

[ignore] Test1

2005-04-15 Thread Manfred Geiler
test-mail to old adress

Re: JSF 1.2 and TCK

2005-04-19 Thread Manfred Geiler
If you can manage to add this feature by only deriving and extending some special classes I do not see a problem. Place your additions into the components and extensions src tree. This way there will be no interfere with the standard 1.1 implementation and we could easily migrate this code into

Re: cvs.apache.org problems ?

2005-04-20 Thread Manfred Geiler
people = cvs = minotaur all the same host 209.237.227.194 ;-)On 4/20/05, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: people.apache.org too-mw-On 4/20/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just checked.I cannot ssh into Minotaur so that is probably it. Also someone on struts-dev reported

Re: Documentation strategy

2005-04-26 Thread Manfred Geiler
2005/4/26, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any guidelines for documentation we should be following ? I would like to improve our documentation; the extended components in particular. Should everything be done through Forrest ? Yes, please. We could also try to enable the pdf

Re: Nightly build

2005-05-03 Thread Manfred Geiler
tldoc and javadoc on homepage are currently broken. Will try to upload them again ASAP. I think it was my fault, because I cleaned up the website dir last time before I checked it out from SVN. So I will add tldoc and javadoc to the site in SVN, so that this cannot happen again in the future.

Re: SVN Repository now live

2005-05-03 Thread Manfred Geiler
Grant, Thanks very much. Works like a charm. -Manfred 2005/5/3, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The new official Subversion repository for Myfaces is now ready. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces This holds: site/ (The website) branches/ (All the old branches we had in the CVS

Re: Nightly build

2005-05-03 Thread Manfred Geiler
ok, I added the javadoc and tlddoc creation to build-site.xml so, on site creation those dirs are updated automatically. did also a svn up on minotaur, but mirrors have not been synced yet. -Manfred 2005/5/3, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tldoc and javadoc on homepage are currently broken

Re: [OT] Farewell

2005-05-06 Thread Manfred Geiler
Heath, Thanks very much for your help and good luck with your new project. -Manfred 2005/5/6, Heath Borders [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My web project has been canceled, and we're migrating our code over to the Eclipse Rich Client Platform. Unfortunately, I won't be an active user of JSF any longer.

Re: Why are all the javadocs updated

2005-05-09 Thread Manfred Geiler
Was also curious and just found the reason: SVN seams to change all the $Date entries in source files to timezoned date/time entries on every update or commit. So, if developers update (or checkout) from different timezone offsets, they have different source codes for all files on their local

Re: $Log$ in source files

2005-05-11 Thread Manfred Geiler
clutter up the source code and documentation. On 5/9/05, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SVN experts, is there really no alternative or backward compatibility solution? :-( -Manfred 2005/5/8, Sylvain Vieujot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, I found that nice too :-( On Sun

Re: $Log$ in source files

2005-05-12 Thread Manfred Geiler
-stress injury suffered by pressing CTRL-Y seven million times... Manfred Geiler wrote: Oliver, I fear you are right. Here is my sad +1 for removing $Log$ -Manfred

Re: Nightly build

2005-05-13 Thread Manfred Geiler
On 5/3/05, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I added the javadoc and tlddoc creation to build-site.xml so, on site creation those dirs are updated automatically. did also a svn up on minotaur, but mirrors have not been synced yet. -Manfred 2005/5/3, Manfred Geiler

Re: Nightly build

2005-05-13 Thread Manfred Geiler
... Bruno 2005/5/13, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I remember right, there is already a forrest clean target that empties the site build dir. -Manfred 2005/5/13, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I double-checked and realized that Forrest was *not* deleting

Re: RoadMap and ChangeLog in JIRA

2005-05-17 Thread Manfred Geiler
yes +1 for using upcoming version number -Manfred 2005/5/16, Oliver Rossmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to suggest we use the version number of the upcoming release instead of - or in addition to - 'Nightly Build' in the Fix version/s field. This way the jira feature of generating

Re: Sandbox

2005-05-19 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 -Manfred 2005/5/19, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I propose that we go ahead and create a sandbox area and at a minimum it can be used by committers (such as myself) who have existing code they want to get feedback on. Those that want to contribute a component and work within the

Re: MyFaces at JavaOne 2005?

2005-05-23 Thread Manfred Geiler
Hi all, As Martin has already mentioned I will attend the JavaOne 2005 for sure. We all must meet there, of course! ;-) We had our first developer meeting at the JavaOne in 2004 (Bill, Kito and me) and I enjoyed it very much. Many things have happend (Apache!) and the community grew a little bit

Re: javax.faces.component.html package

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
Which sources? The latest 1.0.9 release? Just downloaded and checked: Everything on it's place. Or did you mean the RI sources? -Manfred 2005/5/27, Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I panicked because in the downloadable JSF-sources that package contains only a package.html

Re: MyFaces Reorg

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
The shared code issue was misleading in Sean's first mail. In fact it was a typo - Sean, please correct me if I missed something. John, to get your confidence back ;-) please be assured, there is not a single class that is shared between api and impl in a way that makes api depend on impl. The

Re: MyFaces Reorg

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
One of the Oracle guys suggested tomahawk. I like it because it has an Apache ring to it. I'm open to other code names (although lets call it tomahawk now as you are doing for the purposes of discussion the jar file contents.) Also I think a codename is better than myfaces-components. For

Re: MyFaces Reorg

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
You mentioned SVN changes / reorg. Would that be a new repository ? If so, do we need to request that from the infrastructure people, or can we do it ourselves ? Not sure if we'll need infra help but basically we'll need to create subrprojects etc and move stuff around. Most of this I

Re: Why HtmlDataTablePhaseListener?

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
Yes, I (the author of this class ;-) know that this phase listener is absolutely necessary for the extended data table to work properly. This listeners purpose is to make sure that the refresh method for each extended HtmlDataTable in the component tree is called right before the render phase

Re: MyFaces Reorg

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
The goal is to have something similar to Struts as far as how they organized things. Ok, sounds good, thanks, -Manfred

Re: MyFaces Reorg

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
2005/5/30, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -0.5 on bundling sandbox with myfaces-all I like the idea of a separated sandbox jar more. A separate jar gives the sandbox more sense IMO and also makes no difference between Myfaces-Impl or RI users. I agree but there are others who feel

Re: Suggested codenames for new components subproject

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
Manfred suggested also mocassins ;) Yes! These boots are made for walking... :-)

Re: Why HtmlDataTablePhaseListener?

2005-05-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
These things where done in the encodeBegin method in the past. And that always caused troubles. Hmm, I do not know the exact answer by now. Has something to do with isRendered and isRenderedIfEmpty and caching backing beans and so on - sorry, it was long ago ;-) . What I know for sure: It cost me

Re: Proposed SVN Reorg

2005-05-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks, Sean, for your spirit, I'm flabbergasted. Only a few questions to be sure I understand everything: * The proposed directories are meant to reside in the current myfaces root, right? So we would get http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/current

Re: Suggested codenames for new components subproject

2005-05-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
2005/5/31, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh my, I wonder where we will end up with this discussion! That's what marketing departments are doing the whole day long, isn't it? Well, we do not have a marketing department. So, let's collect some further ideas. At the same time let's do not

Re: Suggested codenames for new components subproject

2005-05-31 Thread Manfred Geiler
Hej, cool. Would be a nice explanation for the FAQ section Why is the components/goodies subproject called ... ? What about this one: MOre Cool Additional Stuff that Saves paIN :-) -Manfred 2005/5/31, Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: a MOCASSIN is a nice additional feature if you

Re: [BEER] Get together at JavaOne 2005

2005-06-19 Thread Manfred Geiler
Jonas, Sorry for answering so late. As Martin has mentioned I was on vacation last week. Without internet/email - Yes, it's possible!!! ;-) Please count me +1 Thanks very much, Manfred 2005/6/17, Jonas Jacobi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have more! (I'm starting to sound like an TV advertiser ;)

Re: Need help with codegen stuff

2005-06-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks Martin, perfect explanation. (These classes where perpetrated by me and are undocumented at all - shame on me) I am not sure if we really should ship this stuff with binary release, because it only makes sense for experienced component developers. So shipping it together with source should

Re: New initId attribute

2005-06-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
What do you mean by preserveDataModel is too aggressive? It was introduced to exactly solve this common problem. Fact is, we want UI components that behave as simple as fat client components (Swing) do. What we expect is, that when an action is fired, a table must not be changed in the meantime

Re: New initId attribute

2005-06-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
also a very light modification as only the UIData.getClientId needs to be overridden. By the way, maybe a more explicit attribute name would be rowClientId. Sylvain. On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 09:33 +0200, Manfred Geiler wrote: What do you mean by preserveDataModel is too aggressive

Re: New initId attribute

2005-06-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
that's lacking for the preserveDataModel too anyway), or do you think we should Not implement the rowClientId ? Thanks, Sylvain. P.S. I'll work to give a good example when the preserveDataModel fails. On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 11:29 +0200, Manfred Geiler wrote: Cannot fully

Re: Need help with codegen stuff

2005-06-21 Thread Manfred Geiler
be enoguh... Regards, Bruno 2005/6/21, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Martin, perfect explanation. (These classes where perpetrated by me and are undocumented at all - shame on me) I am not sure if we really should ship this stuff with binary release

Re: Proposal: Elimiante jar files from SVN

2005-06-22 Thread Manfred Geiler
yes, looks good +1 for automatic download of jars -Manfred 2005/6/21, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First off, thanks to James Mitchell (of the Struts team) who has been teaching me the wonders of svn:externals. I hope my SVN reorg will make him proud. :-) While James and I were

Re: SVN Reorg

2005-06-22 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sean, thanks for the hard work. Unfortunately at the moment I'm under great preasure at my company and fear that I cannot be of much help. I will try of course. On Saturday morning I will be on the plane to SF for JavaOne. Of course we will stay in contact next week, but I cannot promise that I

Re: Please do not commit anything to SVN

2005-06-22 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks Sean, As mentioned please do not hesitate to contact me though if you have any problems or questions. I will try to read my mails as often as possible. BTW, I have no idea at the moment how to turn of commits to SVN. I remember that I do have special rights that they only give to PMC

Re: Eclipse .project .classpath files

2005-06-24 Thread Manfred Geiler
Sounds good. What about the IntelliJ hackers? Anyone out there who has a similar thing for it? (workspace and project files) Thanks, Manfred 2005/6/24, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, i'd like to supply an Eclipse configuration for the projects that Sean is currently working to

Re: Should we include javdoc in binary distro?

2005-06-28 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 it was always included and that's what everybody expects, at least for the custom components code and taglib - it's the place where much of the documention is now, and where people also expect it most for an open source product -Manfred 2005/6/28, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What do

Re: Remove jars of required libraries from SVN

2005-06-30 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 for kicking out the jars from svn -Manfred On 6/29/05, Oliver Rossmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please vote for the proposal to - remove the jars of all required libraries from SVN - provide an ant target to download them from some external location -0 from me. If it makes all of

Re: Problem with TLD in new App Distro

2005-07-02 Thread Manfred Geiler
So, this is also the right place to congratulate and thank Stan for his brilliant Portlet/MyFaces Session at the JavaOne. For those who where not there: The Yerba Buena Theatre was full to bursting - must have been 500-1000 people - wow! -Manfred 2005/7/1, Bruno Aranda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I

Re: Subproject name

2005-07-02 Thread Manfred Geiler
One last proposal from my side for a catchy name for the new components and extensions sub project. (Devised by a good friend of mine) Apache Obsidian Obsidian = a stone that can have many colors and serve different purposes: decoration, arrow head, pendulum, ... And there is a nice connection:

Important Topic Reminder [was: Re: MYFACES-228: preserveDataModel=true and x:dataTable fixed?]

2005-07-06 Thread Manfred Geiler
Just a reminder for everyone: Please discuss serious and important issues like this on the dev list, not on the user list! Keep in mind the different Topics: users@myfaces.apache.org -- MyFaces users help users dev@myfaces.apache.org -- MyFaces developers and committers discussions It makes

Re: Proposal: Make tomahawk stuff 100% RI compliant

2005-07-06 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 for making tomahawk 100% RI compliant BUT -1 for removing Tiles support - definitely! Reason: * Tiles support is one of the key features of MyFaces * Tiles support should not (and is not AFAIK) RI incompatible Where does it use MyFaces impl stuff? The special JspTilesViewHandlerImpl does

Re: Outstanding webapp issues

2005-07-06 Thread Manfred Geiler
. sean On 7/6/05, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, looks like I have to jump into the bad cop role now. :-( DataTable is a very very delicate component. I know there were some long outstanding issues, that need to be fixed. BUT, DataTable supported some important things

Re: Proposal: Remove website from SVN

2005-07-06 Thread Manfred Geiler
If there is an automated way without svn, of course +1 from me Thanks, -Manfred 2005/7/6, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 Sean Schofield wrote: I know you are probably tired of my proposals by now ;-) ... but there is more work to be done. We should remove the stuff from

Re: JavaOne, ICEfaces AJAX

2005-07-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks Bill, sounds cool. -Manfred 2005/7/7, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I was really impressed with the ICEfaces demo at JavaOne and since it worked on the RI I wanted to check it out with MyFaces. Turns out they have a dependency on an RI Class. I've let them know about the

Re: Why is immediate=true default for HtmlCommandSortHeader

2005-07-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
Hmm, quite a long time ago... One thing I have in mind is this: For simple tables (without input components) the validation, model update and so on is not necessary. And even for complex tables it is the question if it is desireable by default to do those things and display error messages if the

Re: Why is immediate=true default for HtmlCommandSortHeader

2005-07-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
To make it backward compatible we should create a x:commandSortHeader2 component. Mathias -Original Message- From: Manfred Geiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:52 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: Why is immediate=true default

Re: Why is immediate=true default for HtmlCommandSortHeader

2005-07-07 Thread Manfred Geiler
) but won't the submitted value be lost when you change the values of the inputs after the sort? sean On 7/7/05, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a tradeoff here but in the end its an easy one. One the one hand, as Manfred points out, you will get potential validation

[OT] [was: Re: build.default.properties]

2005-07-08 Thread Manfred Geiler
OT reason=justforfun I would propose that anyone committing a change that causes a test to fail be put in a small interrogation room with the Manfred Geiler Bad Cop. Be very afraid. :-) Harhr! Who dares? BTW, for serious interrogation we also need a Good Cop. Any volunteer? -Manfred

Re: proposal: consolodate examples/standard examples/simple

2005-07-08 Thread Manfred Geiler
+1 2005/7/8, Grant Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 for consolidation, yet with separate areas for non-jsCookMenu-cluttered stuff. Sean Schofield wrote: Can we get a few more +1's for this? sean On 7/7/05, Bill Dudney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes now the cobwebs are

Re: Problems with new documentation

2005-07-10 Thread Manfred Geiler
Thanks, Martin. BTW, I would like to add some pictures from the JavaOne to the homepage. Can you please inform me when everything is fixed? Thanks, Manfred 2005/7/10, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I will do that. regards, Martin On 7/10/05, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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