Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 04:19 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 10:25 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > >> I am inclined to believe, the spirit behind Linux has changed, changed > >> away from being idealistic to playing issues low for commerial intere

Re: buildsys-build group renamed to build?

2012-06-13 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:33:32 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:13:13 + (UTC) > Petr Pisar wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Can a comps maintainer confirm that yum group used for installing > > minimal build-root in F18 has been rena

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > Linus started only the kernel. The complete operating system was started by > the GNU Project, which is very much idealistic. And where would GNU be if it weren't for Linux? I remember gcc and glibc before Linux came along (and then there was RMS's ugly "l

[headsup] Haskell Platform 2012.2 coming soon to Rawhide

2012-06-13 Thread Jens Petersen
Hi, Just a quick heads-up that haskell-platform in Rawhide will be soon be updated to the new 2012.4 release. [1] As usual there will be quite a bit of dependency breakage while all the reverse dependencies get rebuilt: I have already tested it locally and committed required changes to git. At th

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Felix Miata wrote: > Is "never" appropriate even if one's own experience is with 3 systems? 7 > systems? 13 systems? 40 systems? Never say never, or always. ;-) That can widen the class of affected devices, but from there to "all Intel WiFi" is still a long stretch. (For a starter, last I checked

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote: > The person that submits the update gets emails for every comment added > to the update. This particular one had a couple things that happened > though. > > 1) It got the requisite karma for stable rather quickly > 2) Justin was on vacation when the negative karma was submitted

Re: multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > The only official doc is on how to modify the html footer > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MultilibTricks#Doxygen_footers Please do NOT add such workarounds to all packages. The doxygen maintainer is going to ship a fixed doxygen ASAP. Kevin Kofler -

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 10:25 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> I am inclined to believe, the spirit behind Linux has changed, changed >> away from being idealistic to playing issues low for commerial interests. > > I'm not going to agree or disagree, but purely as backgro

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Jones wrote: > I find it pretty hard to believe this position. Through my role working > on our bootloaders at Red Hat, I've seen a fair amount of pre-production > hardware, and I've spent a lot of time looking at hardware that implements > Secure Boot, and how it does so. I've seen the firmw

login/logout hooks in fedora 17?

2012-06-13 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
Hi all, Any suggestions on how I may run a script when a user logins or logouts of the graphical console? I used to do this with gdm by customizing the Post* and Pre* scripts in /etc/gdm. I see that the login/logout process is (appears to be) controlled by systemd. What would be a good approa

Re: rawhide report: 20120613 changes

2012-06-13 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 01:47:05PM +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > [cduce] > cduce-0.5.4-4.fc18.x86_64 requires ocaml(runtime) = 0:3.12.1 (etc) The remaining OCaml packages are all waiting upstream fixes. Sorry about the noise, but we should have it done in a week. Rich. -- Richard

Fedora ARM status meeting minutes 2012-06-13

2012-06-13 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today. For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-06-13/fedora-meeting-1.2012-06-13-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedo

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Roman Kennke
Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 12:07 -0700 schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 09:36 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Roman Kennke wrote: > > > Would it make sense to require more karma than just the default 3? > > > Looking at: > > > > > > https://admin.fed

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 13:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:10 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:45 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:08:05 -0600 > > > Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > > > > > %global commit bd245c9 > > > > >

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 20:10 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:45 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:08:05 -0600 > > Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > > > %global commit bd245c9 > > > > > > Source0: > > > > > https://github.com/jukka/pcfi/tarball/%{commit}

Re: dd_rescue ddrescue upstream versions

2012-06-13 Thread Michal Ambroz
Hello Developers, please does anyone know how to contact Andreas Thienemann ? I was trying to contact him related to the packages dd_rescue and ddrescue for upgrade to upstream versions. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591042";>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591042 https:/

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 09:36 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Roman Kennke wrote: > > Would it make sense to require more karma than just the default 3? > > Looking at: > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-8824/kernel-3.4.0-1.fc17 > > > > I see that

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 14:33 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2012/06/13 11:22 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: > > > Your own personal experience is _never_ sufficient grounds for > > concluding that the bug you're experiencing affects a much broader class > > of devices. > > Is "never" appropr

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
all of this out of the version field. The Guidelines say to stick it in release. Putting it in Version: runs the risk of upstream making a release like 1.0 which would then sort lower than the date (20120613). -Toshio pgp2VxKOJ0NiT.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-06-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:15:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:44:37 -0600, >Orion Poplawski wrote: > >On 05/04/2012 12:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > >Rawhide is in bad shape too: > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816284 > > > >Transaction Check

Re: multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Xavier Bachelot wrote: > Does anyone have any pointer on how to fix a multilib conflict with a > doxygen generated pdf file ? I was able to fix the same multilib issue > with the html files by modifying the footer to not include the > timestamp, but I don't find any pointer on how to proceed for t

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/06/13 11:22 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: Your own personal experience is _never_ sufficient grounds for concluding that the bug you're experiencing affects a much broader class of devices. Is "never" appropriate even if one's own experience is with 3 systems? 7 systems? 13 sys

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 12:51 +0200, Roman Kennke wrote: > I cannot believe that I am the only one > on an Intel Wifi chip. I haven't yet read the rest of the thread, but I just wanted to point out this common fallacy. As a general rule, all $VENDOR_$DEVICETYPE devices do not act the same. You cann

Re: [LGA 1155 motherboards] Multi-Monitor does NOT work when 1 monitor uses Intel GPU and another monitor uses Nvidia GPU -- (Sandy Bridge & Ivy Bridge iGPU)

2012-06-13 Thread John Reiser
I have an ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 main board which can run the Intel HD3000 graphics which is builtin, using a i5 Sandy Bridge CPU. The box also has an nVidia GeForce GT 430 card (PCI 10de:0de1 rev a1). I usually run only one monitor (from the nVidia card), but I decided to experiment. The American Meg

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:45 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:08:05 -0600 > Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > %global commit bd245c9 > > > > Source0: > > > https://github.com/jukka/pcfi/tarball/%{commit}/jukka-pcfi-%{commit}.tar.gz > > > > %setup -q -n jukka-pcfi-%{commit} > > I

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread jonathan
Le mercredi 13 juin 2012 à 19:49 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:45 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > > Suppose I cut a package last year: > > swift3-1.0.0-878c23.tag.xz > > Then I build an RPM: > > openstack-swift-plugin-swift3-1.0.0-878c23-1.fc17.noarch.rpm > > > > To

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 11:45 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > Suppose I cut a package last year: > swift3-1.0.0-878c23.tag.xz > Then I build an RPM: > openstack-swift-plugin-swift3-1.0.0-878c23-1.fc17.noarch.rpm > > Today I run the same git-archve and get: > swift3-1.0.0-5c74ba.tag.xz > openstack-s

Re: GitHub is a terrible upstream

2012-06-13 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:08:05 -0600 Orion Poplawski wrote: > %global commit bd245c9 > > Source0: > https://github.com/jukka/pcfi/tarball/%{commit}/jukka-pcfi-%{commit}.tar.gz > > %setup -q -n jukka-pcfi-%{commit} I do not understand how this is supposed to work in the face of "yum update". Su

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 13:16:24 -0400, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: If we means all people subscribed to fedora-devel I think everyone should run with updates-testing enabled. This definition of we is the people that make Fedora happen so we should always test our stuff - non-stop. Regular u

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Ian Malone" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:27:03 PM > Subject: Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff > > On 13 June 2012 13:31, Aleksandar Kurtakov > wrote: > > > - Original Messag

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 10:25 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > I am inclined to believe, the spirit behind Linux has changed, changed > away from being idealistic to playing issues low for commerial interests. I'm not going to agree or disagree, but purely as background, remember that the spirit beh

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 17:27:03 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: I get the need for people to volunteer and test and that's fine. But the thing I can't square here is why then we aren't all on updates-testing all the time? The kernel is one of the few packages you can guarantee everyone is using. We

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-06-13 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 06/13/2012 10:15 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:44:37 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 05/04/2012 12:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Rawhide is in bad shape too: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816284 Transaction Check Error: file /usr/include/db.h co

Re: buildsys-build group renamed to build?

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:13:13 + (UTC) Petr Pisar wrote: > Hello, > > Can a comps maintainer confirm that yum group used for installing > minimal build-root in F18 has been renamed from `buildsys-build' to > `build'? I don't see that change here. buildsys-build <_name>Buildsystem

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 June 2012 13:31, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Roman Kennke" >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:15:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff >> >         - How can pro

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 09:44:37 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 05/04/2012 12:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Rawhide is in bad shape too: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816284 Transaction Check Error: file /usr/include/db.h conflicts between attempted installs of db4-devel-

[perl-Razor-Agent] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a5a4deb2794c2f81c5c871b70aa6e4a5202afde8 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 17:47:19 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Razor-Agent.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Razor-Agent.spec b/perl-Razor-Agent.spec index 1fd2e9a..ec49

[perl-Object-InsideOut] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 90466dca1be530cc84c48f40aee7a020313830e2 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 17:47:08 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Object-InsideOut.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Object-InsideOut.spec b/perl-Object-InsideOut.spec inde

[perl-POE-Component-Client-DNS] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 2f0fb759636f5a57dfc57f71e442de2cd35d6da8 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 17:39:46 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-POE-Component-Client-DNS.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-POE-Component-Client-DNS.spec b/perl-POE-Compo

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-06-13 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 05/04/2012 12:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:24:17 +0100, PR (Peter) wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Joe Orton wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 02:21:36PM +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: So the plan is: 1) remove 4.5, 4.6 and 4.7 from compat-db 2) put 4.8 to compat

Re: [RFE] color man-pages, bash history, clear console

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2012-06-13, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > >== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/815790 == > clear_console: New helper program to clear the *console*, > including the _scrollback buffer_. > > DESCRIPTION > > clear_console clears your console if this is possible. It looks in > the environment for the

File Math-BigInt-GMP-1.37.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jplesnik

2012-06-13 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Math-BigInt-GMP: d11bf69c0471e38191f33144079d0373 Math-BigInt-GMP-1.37.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

[perl-MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained] 0.15 bump

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 8ea37c2a12dea025bb9eb6f83fddf8c98fc39ef1 Author: Petr Šabata Date: Wed Jun 13 16:36:04 2012 +0200 0.15 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained.spec | 12 sources |

File MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained-0.15.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained: 3934fd87da0c8eeb21447884d4711541 MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained-0.15.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedor

Re: gutenprint update in rawhide, soname bump

2012-06-13 Thread Matt Domsch
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 08:59:08AM -0500, Jiri Popelka wrote: > Hi > > I built gutenprint 5.2.8 in rawhide. > This introduces a soname bump (libgutenprint.so.2 to .3). > > These packages (owners CCed) need rebuilding: > > cinepaint > photoprint Photoprint scratch build succeeded, picked up libg

gutenprint update in rawhide, soname bump

2012-06-13 Thread Jiri Popelka
Hi I built gutenprint 5.2.8 in rawhide. This introduces a soname bump (libgutenprint.so.2 to .3). These packages (owners CCed) need rebuilding: cinepaint photoprint -- Jiri -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 06/13/2012 01:39 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Yes, that is true. However it also speaks to the extremely small usage of rawhide and the relative lack of variety in both test hardware and setups. I have no magical solutions to those problems. We simply need more people testing rawhide kernels in ge

[perl-App-cpanminus] 1.5014 bump

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 8d5b5790fef36be6909ca9fe55a228b2cb40146d Author: Petr Šabata Date: Wed Jun 13 15:41:15 2012 +0200 1.5014 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-App-cpanminus.spec | 12 sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --- diff

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 14:49:25 +0200, >  Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: >> >> >> imo, kernel maintainers should have released 3.3.8 or 3.4.1, not 3.4.0 >> for f17 > > > 3.4.2 is available, though the last I checked the build hadn't been pushed

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Roman Kennke wrote: > Would it make sense to require more karma than just the default 3? > Looking at: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-8824/kernel-3.4.0-1.fc17 > > I see that there are 5 oks and 2 denys, which actually point to bug > reports

[perl-SVG-Graph] Specify all dependencies

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d1abe3e2639e090a187de9d6eafe452c5ed71bb0 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 15:34:30 2012 +0200 Specify all dependencies perl-SVG-Graph.spec | 19 +++ 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-SVG-Graph.spec b/perl-SVG-Graph.spec ind

File App-cpanminus-1.5014.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-App-cpanminus: 660a714119b1a0601f0618ee256486e9 App-cpanminus-1.5014.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM, M A Young wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: > >> imo, kernel maintainers should have released 3.3.8 or 3.4.1, not 3.4.0 >> for f17 > > > I believe the 3.4.0 kernel package was effectively 3.4.1 anyway. Yes, it was. Justin added the patches que

Re: multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Lane
Xavier Bachelot writes: > Does anyone have any pointer on how to fix a multilib conflict with a > doxygen generated pdf file ? I was able to fix the same multilib issue > with the html files by modifying the footer to not include the > timestamp, but I don't find any pointer on how to proceed f

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Roman Kennke
Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 14:29 +0200 schrieb Stijn Hoop: > Hi, > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:15:14 +0200 > Roman Kennke wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Johannes Lips: > > > I think the reason for shipping the latest upstream kernel is based > > > on the fact that back

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread M A Young
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: imo, kernel maintainers should have released 3.3.8 or 3.4.1, not 3.4.0 for f17 I believe the 3.4.0 kernel package was effectively 3.4.1 anyway. Michael Young -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.or

[perl-Data-Dump-Streamer] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ceadb77331fb49e23c837d60b1031dbca7240c76 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:57:36 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Data-Dump-Streamer.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Data-Dump-Streamer.spec b/perl-Data-Dump-Streamer.spe

[perl-File-DesktopEntry] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit bb5e74b610bac83e24a7b1e8cf2ef95d31ec3ecf Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:57:29 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-File-DesktopEntry.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-File-DesktopEntry.spec b/perl-File-DesktopEntry.spec i

[perl-Crypt-Rijndael] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a1d3bdb6186d6abe64326b85d868e70ade4ed28e Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:57:14 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Crypt-Rijndael.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Crypt-Rijndael.spec b/perl-Crypt-Rijndael.spec index 06bf

[perl-Test-HTTP-Server-Simple] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 507f1bf4d5dfb900cb49f9850e50cbc394df1fbb Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:56:03 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Test-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec b/perl-Test-HTTP-S

[perl-Config-Tiny] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3786f1f42ed00dbf762acad7f17888c9f853300d Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:55:53 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Config-Tiny.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Config-Tiny.spec b/perl-Config-Tiny.spec index a8800f0..8567

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 14:49:25 +0200, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: imo, kernel maintainers should have released 3.3.8 or 3.4.1, not 3.4.0 for f17 3.4.2 is available, though the last I checked the build hadn't been pushed to testing. I don't know if that is an oversight or if they didn't feel

[perl-POE-Filter-IRCD] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 03f7fcbd8b50be7461f8827f4313030af787f353 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:53:31 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-POE-Filter-IRCD.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-POE-Filter-IRCD.spec b/perl-POE-Filter-IRCD.spec index f

[perl-Time-OlsonTZ-Download] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3a562626d4352b2a5dc1af3dbd9f24a914081219 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:53:03 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Time-OlsonTZ-Download.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Time-OlsonTZ-Download.spec b/perl-Time-OlsonTZ-Dow

[perl-Hash-MoreUtils] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 9fc82af38e0cf349a3ddc33f75adc21c6ed5857e Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:50:39 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Hash-MoreUtils.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Hash-MoreUtils.spec b/perl-Hash-MoreUtils.spec index c2cf

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky
Roman Kennke writes: > Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Johannes Lips: >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Roman Kennke >> wrote: >> > Today something happened, that happens over and over again >> with Fedora, >> > and it makes me angry. I am runni

[perl-Lexical-Var] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 9a85ee7844c5072d63711c45a5df6881e01dcc5e Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:35:06 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Lexical-Var.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Lexical-Var.spec b/perl-Lexical-Var.spec index 90a8ec7..2dd9

[perl-Variable-Magic] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 59f299f23685202544d0a752bd8cf393b23fb7b2 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:34:58 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Variable-Magic.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Variable-Magic.spec b/perl-Variable-Magic.spec index 893b

[perl-POE-Component-SimpleLog] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a6c97cba7208d2b65d04bba487d352c37a66e798 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:32:24 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-POE-Component-SimpleLog.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-POE-Component-SimpleLog.spec b/perl-POE-Compone

[perl-Test-EOL] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c8b7ae865ef7b78da78d85eb7ce8d9dae940b4b7 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:32:02 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Test-EOL.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-EOL.spec b/perl-Test-EOL.spec index c5f76c4..8ea566b 10064

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Roman Kennke" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:15:14 PM > Subject: Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff > > Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Johannes Lips: > > > > > > O

[perl-Tk-ColoredButton] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 30d6351b66d947ed6d6c039fe1ab8a7adae96f5a Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:31:01 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Tk-ColoredButton.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Tk-ColoredButton.spec b/perl-Tk-ColoredButton.spec inde

[perl-Email-MessageID] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 42cf8c62d9a5447256e31ef0b5ffcd09d523a54d Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:30:55 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Email-MessageID.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Email-MessageID.spec b/perl-Email-MessageID.spec index e

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/06/12 13:15, Roman Kennke wrote: Ok, fair enough. The question remains, how can we avoid such bad things to happen in the future? Should I regularily try out kernel builds on their way to stable, and object to their stable-release when I find a problem? And how would I do that? (I.e. how

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Roman Kennke wrote: >> I think the reason for shipping the latest upstream kernel is based on >> the fact that backporting would be too much work. >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelRebases >> Gives a good overview and probably prevents us from repeating >> arg

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:15:14 +0200 Roman Kennke wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Johannes Lips: > > I think the reason for shipping the latest upstream kernel is based > > on the fact that backporting would be too much work. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelReb

[perl-Array-Base] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 443fee68d1675c73a28cfbbac7a679495a0f664b Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:17:38 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Array-Base.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Array-Base.spec b/perl-Array-Base.spec index 6d380c0..fc5c34c

[perl-Color-Library] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 083a45849e1a614eb6813d1104162bcc4be370b2 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:17:33 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Color-Library.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Color-Library.spec b/perl-Color-Library.spec index 284fa03

[perl-Term-Size-Any] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 98e9df6797dfe4558067b15654a35d3a5f94bfb7 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:17:27 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Term-Size-Any.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Term-Size-Any.spec b/perl-Term-Size-Any.spec index d22ab7e

[perl-Test-Base] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 92170892d9b77e0a61c4398433a36e8174eb4786 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:17:04 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Test-Base.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-Base.spec b/perl-Test-Base.spec index 455be09..98276f7 10

[perl-Hash-Merge] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 88c4856e7c9f9a8e0b74353c56ff60840ffbb487 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:17:04 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-Hash-Merge.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Hash-Merge.spec b/perl-Hash-Merge.spec index 7950b14..53ceba8

Re: multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Paul Howarth
On 06/13/2012 01:10 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Xavier Bachelot wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any pointer on how to fix a multilib conflict with a doxygen generated pdf file ? I was able to fix the same multilib issue with the html files by modifying the footer to no

[perl-CGI-Compile] Perl 5.16 rebuild

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d8e1bbd4ffc788147b05c45b9772772b7bc340af Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jun 13 14:15:23 2012 +0200 Perl 5.16 rebuild perl-CGI-Compile.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-CGI-Compile.spec b/perl-CGI-Compile.spec index 4ee0237..47a9

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Roman Kennke
Am Mittwoch, den 13.06.2012, 13:05 +0100 schrieb Johannes Lips: > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Roman Kennke > wrote: > > Today something happened, that happens over and over again > with Fedora, > > and it makes me angry. I am running Fedora 17, and so far it >

Re: multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Xavier Bachelot wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have any pointer on how to fix a multilib conflict with a > doxygen generated pdf file ? I was able to fix the same multilib issue with > the html files by modifying the footer to not include the timestamp, but I > don't

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Johannes Lips
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Roman Kennke wrote: > > Today something happened, that happens over and over again with Fedora, > > and it makes me angry. I am running Fedora 17, and so far it worked well > > with the initial kernel 3.3.x (except that it would panic on shutdown... > > but that w

Re: Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Roman Kennke
> Today something happened, that happens over and over again with Fedora, > and it makes me angry. I am running Fedora 17, and so far it worked well > with the initial kernel 3.3.x (except that it would panic on shutdown... > but that was not important to me, but still embarassing). Today I was > n

[RFE] color man-pages, bash history, clear console

2012-06-13 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
hi, == https://bugzilla.redhat.com/815790 == clear_console: New helper program to clear the *console*, including the _scrollback buffer_. DESCRIPTION clear_console clears your console if this is possible. It looks in the environment for the terminal type and then in the terminfo database to

Re: multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:12:18 +0200, Xavier Bachelot wrote: > I was able to fix the same multilib issue with the html files by modifying > the footer to not include the timestamp, Could you suggest how in: popt-devel.i586 conflicts with popt-devel.x86_64 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

Important kernel update should not break stuff

2012-06-13 Thread Roman Kennke
Hi folks, Today something happened, that happens over and over again with Fedora, and it makes me angry. I am running Fedora 17, and so far it worked well with the initial kernel 3.3.x (except that it would panic on shutdown... but that was not important to me, but still embarassing). Today I was

Re: Weekly ARM status meeting - Wed 2012/06/13

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Paul Whalen wrote: > CST: 10pm FYI, we normally call this time zone CEST, not CST. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

multilib conflict with doxygen generated pdf

2012-06-13 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Hi, Does anyone have any pointer on how to fix a multilib conflict with a doxygen generated pdf file ? I was able to fix the same multilib issue with the html files by modifying the footer to not include the timestamp, but I don't find any pointer on how to proceed for the pdf file. Alternat

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2012 07:43 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jay Sulzberger (j...@panix.com) said: There is here no irrestible tide. Rather, Fedora is jumping to surrender before engagement. Secret discussions with Microsoft is perhaps part of this engagement. But such discussion is not the whole battle.

buildsys-build group renamed to build?

2012-06-13 Thread Petr Pisar
Hello, Can a comps maintainer confirm that yum group used for installing minimal build-root in F18 has been renamed from `buildsys-build' to `build'? I just started getting failures in my local mock configurations today because regarding this group name. -- Petr -- devel mailing list devel@lis