Re: Enlightenment for Fedora

2013-01-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:21 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Should I search for 'e17' if I want it? > > It is not in the repo yet if you see the mail I sent Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Enlightenment for Fedora

2013-01-03 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:47 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > wrote: >> >> This is E17, right? E16 is already there, isn't it? > > > Yes. From a packaging stand point, they don't have anything in common > > Rahul > > -- > devel mailing l

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-01-03 17:44 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: > >> My recollection on actual hardware though for F16 and F17 is that I see a >> GRUB >> menu. At the moment I don't have hardware to test, it's all multi-boot. > > Maybe you, newAnaconda a

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-01-03 17:44 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: Felix Miata wrote: Maybe a virtual disk installation is somehow categorized as multiboot by the F18 installer in configuring the Grub2 menu? My recollection on actual hardware though for F16 and F17 is that I see a GRUB menu. At the mo

Re: [Fedora TeX Live] f18beta + texlive 2012: usable texinfo, docbook, doxygen pdf toolchains

2013-01-03 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:58:32 -0600 Rex Dieter wrote: > On 01/03/2013 06:51 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: > > >> 3. dblatex > >> > >> Currently, dblatex package hasn't been updated to texlive-2012 > >> dependencies, so it cannot be installed due to the incorrect > >> passivetex requirements. > >>

Re: [Fedora TeX Live] f18beta + texlive 2012: usable texinfo, docbook, doxygen pdf toolchains

2013-01-03 Thread Rex Dieter
On 01/03/2013 06:51 PM, Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: 3. dblatex Currently, dblatex package hasn't been updated to texlive-2012 dependencies, so it cannot be installed due to the incorrect passivetex requirements. This is bug, with patch here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891450 As

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-01-03 16:51 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: > >> On 2013-01-03 17:00 (GMT-0500), Mairin Duffy composed: > > >>> It should be hidden for final releases, but not for testing and >>> development releases. You may have upgraded from a beta

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 01:26 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 04.01.2013 01:21, schrieb drago01: > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Máirín Duffy > > wrote: > >> On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, > >>> exce

Re: [Fedora TeX Live] f18beta + texlive 2012: usable texinfo, docbook, doxygen pdf toolchains

2013-01-03 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
> 1. doxygen > > Added doxygen deps for pdf output, see: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891452 Fixed, thanks. > 2. docbook5-style-xsl > > Typo, see: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891459 Fixed, thanks. > 3. dblatex > > Currently, dblatex package hasn't been upd

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Maybe a virtual disk installation is somehow categorized as multiboot by the > F18 installer in configuring the Grub2 menu? My recollection on actual hardware though for F16 and F17 is that I see a GRUB menu. At the moment I don't have hardware

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Pete Travis wrote: > Since you folks are testing, would anyone mind filing a bug against the > documentation? > I did, I was just trying to get a confirm/deny that this is intended and if it's stable before changing documentation. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Pete Travis
A simple short term solution might be to purge this statement from the documentation for affected releases. If we should expect the splash only in certain cases, of course the docs should state that expected behavior. Since you folks are testing, would anyone mind filing a bug against the document

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2013 01:21, schrieb drago01: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, >>> except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-01-03 16:51 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: On 2013-01-03 17:00 (GMT-0500), Mairin Duffy composed: It should be hidden for final releases, but not for testing and development releases. You may have upgraded from a beta or test release, in which case your grub config file allowing it

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, >> except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true >> since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being u

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, >> except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true >> since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being used

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 15:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > As discussed in the bug, if systemd-localed is doing 'fuzzy matching' it > may be the case that we actually get a decent match for most layouts, > I'll have to do more testing. But the situation is clearly different to > the F17 one in th

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: > Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, > except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true > since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being used. Is there a > plan to revert back to a hidden GRUB menu

GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been true since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being used. Is there a plan to revert back to a hidden GRUB menu at some point or is the current behavior stable? Chris Murphy

Re: Secure Boot Guide Help

2013-01-03 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:27:12PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eric H. Christensen > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Can someone (everyone) take a look at the draft version of the sec

Re: Secure Boot Guide Help

2013-01-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Can someone (everyone) take a look at the draft version of the secure boot > guide[0], please? What's there was taken from what I found on the wiki but I > want to make sure that the

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

2013-01-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 01.01.13 10:48, Joel Rees (joel.r...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Mon, 31.12.12 07:38, John Reiser (jrei...@bitwagon.com) wrote: > > > >> > Cool, then write a sane tool that converts them online that doesn't pull > >> > in Perl an

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 19:58 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Oh sure. I guess I need to draw a distinction between what I see as two > > different cases. Which I'm sure you understand but I'm having trouble > > describing clearly. I g

Re: f18beta + texlive 2012: usable texinfo, docbook, doxygen pdf toolchains

2013-01-03 Thread Rex Dieter
Benjamin De Kosnik wrote: > > From: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/173356.html > > Now: > > Resolved, success. With fixes, am now able to > build all the gcc docs in html/xml/pdf/epub/info, whatever. Phew! > > With caveats, as filed in Bugzilla under Fedora18, a

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Oh sure. I guess I need to draw a distinction between what I see as two > different cases. Which I'm sure you understand but I'm having trouble > describing clearly. I guess what I'm saying is, if > there's /etc/keyboard.conf speci

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > In addition to those bugs, we have fairly significant regressions in the > completeness of anaconda translations between Fedora 16 and Fedora 18 > (the numbers for F17 for some languages are weird - a lot of languages > show 55% completion for F17 but

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:09 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891487 - anaconda > > > doesn't > > > seem to manage to offer all the keyboard layouts it could do, and > > > some > > > of the ones it's missing are somew

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > On 01/03/2013 09:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > if > > there's /etc/keyboard.conf specifying 'KEYBOARD=foo', [then] I should never > > have to pass 'KEYBOARD=foo' as a cmdline to make foo my keyboard layout > > in some case. As things stan

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:09 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891487 - anaconda > > doesn't > > seem to manage to offer all the keyboard layouts it could do, and > > some > > of the ones it's missing are somewhat important > > Already accepted as NTH,

Secure Boot Guide Help

2013-01-03 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can someone (everyone) take a look at the draft version of the secure boot guide[0], please? What's there was taken from what I found on the wiki but I want to make sure that the information that we've got in the guide is current and answers the qu

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread John Reiser
On 01/03/2013 09:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > if > there's /etc/keyboard.conf specifying 'KEYBOARD=foo', [then] I should never > have to pass 'KEYBOARD=foo' as a cmdline to make foo my keyboard layout > in some case. As things stand I believe I do, for passphrase entry > during dracut. The dra

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 18:53 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 03.01.13 09:38, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > If we have such a tool, can we make the whole area of keymap > > configuration much less insane? Right now we appear to have at least the > > following: > > We

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 03.01.13 09:38, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > If we have such a tool, can we make the whole area of keymap > configuration much less insane? Right now we appear to have at least the > following: Well, we still will allow configuration of per-boot, per-system and per-user

Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 15:43 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 03.01.13 00:03, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889562 - systemd > > conversion from xkb to console layouts fails probably more than it > > succeeds, when it does

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 14:19 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 12:40 +: > > On 01/03/2013 10:37 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > So yes, these issues are serious, but IMHO rather a long-term problem we > > > should focus on after releasing F18. > > >

[perl-Module-Build-WithXSpp/f18] Initial import (#876405).

2013-01-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
Summary of changes: 8dcbf30... Initial import (#876405). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-03 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Miloslav Trmač" > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jaroslav Reznik > wrote: > > = Features/DualstackNetworking = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DualstackNetworking > > (Sending to the list instead of using the wiki talk page to hopefully > gat

[perl-Module-Build-WithXSpp] Initial import (#876405).

2013-01-03 Thread Miroslav Hrončok
commit 8dcbf304e7a0b080331822f542b424c1f08cf1eb Author: Miro Hrončok Date: Thu Jan 3 17:52:52 2013 +0100 Initial import (#876405). .gitignore |1 + perl-Module-Build-WithXSpp.spec | 67 +++ sources |

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2013-01-03 Thread Miroslav Hrončok
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[perl-Net-DNS] 0.72 bump

2013-01-03 Thread Petr Pisar
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[perl-Math-Geometry-Voronoi] Initial import (#887846).

2013-01-03 Thread Miroslav Hrončok
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2013-01-03 Thread Miroslav Hrončok
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[perl-DBI] 1.623 bump

2013-01-03 Thread Petr Šabata
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2013-01-03 Thread Petr Šabata
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[Bug 890736] perl-Net-DNS-0.72 is available

2013-01-03 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890736 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-03 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "William Brown" > 4) For link local to work "nicely", mDNS name resolution should be > installed and available by default. Avahi can provide such a service > for ipv6. Avahi doesn't work for IPv6 link-local addresses and GLIBC doesn't even allow nss-mdns to w

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-03 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Tomasz Torcz" > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:18:19AM +1030, William Brown wrote: > > > > = Features/DualstackNetworking = > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DualstackNetworking > > > > 1) For a user, there is no option in NetworkManager to enable >

Re: rawhide report: 20121226 changes

2013-01-03 Thread Kalev Lember
On 12/26/2012 11:49 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> [epiphany-extensions] >> epiphany-extensions-3.6.0-1.fc19.x86_64 requires >> epiphany(abi) = 0:3.6 > > Looks like this one needs to be retired now? Yes. I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875234 a while back suggesting that epi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-03 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "Adam Williamson" > > On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 21:06 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jaroslav Reznik > > wrote: > > > = Features/DualstackNetworking = > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DualstackNetworking > > > > (Se

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Re: rawhide report: 20121226 changes

2013-01-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> [wine] wine-fonts-1.5.18-1.fc19.noarch requires >> liberation-narrow-fonts > > This package doesn't exist anymore... wine needs adjusting for that. ;) One more reason why Liberation 2.0 is a step backwards. Can't we package liberation-narrow-fonts from Liberation 1 separate

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: DualstackNetworking - proper dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 networking

2013-01-03 Thread Pavel Simerda
- Original Message - > From: "William Brown" > > On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:48 PM, William Brown > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 21:06 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jaroslav Reznik > >

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > 3. In the longer term, how can we get anaconda, i18n, systemd, GNOME etc > folks all pointed in the same direction and working so that there's far > less suckage and far more smooth interaction going on here? Should we > try and run some sor

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Thomas Sailer
On 01/03/2013 04:01 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I assume you are not using encrypted partition I do. Given that we are already that far behind the schedule few more months hardly matter or at least delay the release up to the point this issues are fixed. Yes it does. Many already upg

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/03/2013 04:01 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: What is not right here while the distribution has significantly increased in size the release cycle has not been extended to accommodate for that ( amongst other growth pain we suffer from ) The number of packages might have increased, but i

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > ad 1) OK, feel free to ignore this, I don't really have time to go > through all the bugs in last 4 fedora releases, since it won't (most > probably) change your opinion. > ad 2) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs Thanks for the link https://fedoraproject

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of > all > my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is > that I'm pretty sad at the state of support for > anything-but-U.S.-English in Fedora 18. > > Here's the tally: > > * h

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/03/2013 01:57 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:43 +0100: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:13 +0100: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: Jiri Eischmann wrote: Adam Williamson píše

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > In the meantime, until somebody wants to spend the time on writing this > tool I think the best is to update the keyboard mapping table that > systemd ships. I am more than happy to apply patches to that and it's no > issue at all updati

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 03.01.13 00:03, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889562 - systemd > conversion from xkb to console layouts fails probably more than it > succeeds, when it does, you wind up with U.S. English as your console > layout, not whatever

rawhide report: 20130103 changes

2013-01-03 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jan 3 08:15:10 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [dogtag-pki] dogtag-pki-10.0.0-0.16.b3.fc19.noarch requires dogtag-pki-server-theme >= 0:10.0.0 [ember] ember-0.6.3-3.fc19.x86_64 requires libOgreMain.

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jiri Eischmann
drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:43 +0100: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:13 +0100: > >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Fabian Deutsch > >> wrote: > >> > Jiri Eischmann wrote: > >> >> Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 0

F-18 Branched report: 20130103 changes

2013-01-03 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Jan 3 09:15:17 UTC 2013 Updated Packages: anaconda-18.37.8-1.fc18 --- * Fri Dec 21 2012 Brian C. Lane - 18.37.8-1 - hook up help window close button (#889570) (cherry picked from commit 128aa94a4dabfde0e7d3b14ddcec6b88a9308b08) (bcl) * Fri De

[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-01-03 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406#comment:12 . Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testin

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:13 +0100: >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Fabian Deutsch >> wrote: >> > Jiri Eischmann wrote: >> >> Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 00:03 -0800: >> > >> > … >> > >> >> > 2. If not, do we want

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jiri Eischmann
drago01 píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 14:13 +0100: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > Jiri Eischmann wrote: > >> Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 00:03 -0800: > > > > … > > > >> > 2. If not, do we want to engage in some Messaging around the F18 release > >> > to emphas

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jiri Eischmann
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 12:40 +: > On 01/03/2013 10:37 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > So yes, these issues are serious, but IMHO rather a long-term problem we > > should focus on after releasing F18. > > I disagree I think we need to fix those things first. > > Ask you

Re: Whats happened to SELinux commands and directories on F18 ?

2013-01-03 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/02/2013 03:09 PM, Lukas Berk wrote: > Hey, > > [...] > >> >> audit2allow is in policycoreutils-python these days I believe. >> > > At least in rawhide (not sure about F18), audit2allow seems to have been > moved from policycoreutils-python

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > Jiri Eischmann wrote: >> Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 00:03 -0800: > > … > >> > 2. If not, do we want to engage in some Messaging around the F18 release >> > to emphasize that we know there are all these issues and we'll try to >

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of > all > my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is > that I'm pretty sad at the state of support for > anything-but-U.S.-English in Fedora 18. > > Here's the tally: > > * h

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/03/2013 10:37 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: So yes, these issues are serious, but IMHO rather a long-term problem we should focus on after releasing F18. I disagree I think we need to fix those things first. Ask yourself this, If the roles where reversed and US keymaps and translation was b

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Jiri Eischmann wrote: > Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 00:03 -0800: … > > 2. If not, do we want to engage in some Messaging around the F18 release > > to emphasize that we know there are all these issues and we'll try to > > smooth things out for F19? > > … > So yes, these issues are

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 3.1.2013 11:34, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 11:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 3.1.2013 10:51, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 20:17 +1030, William Brown wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +00

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Adam Williamson píše v Čt 03. 01. 2013 v 00:03 -0800: > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all > my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is > that I'm pretty sad at the state of support for > anything-but-U.S.-English in Fedora 18. > > Her

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 11:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 3.1.2013 10:51, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > > On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 20:17 +1030, William Brown wrote: > >> On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 3.1.2013 10:51, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 20:17 +1030, William Brown wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, folks. I'm not

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/03/2013 09:42 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: I really didn't want this to turn into a release philosophy thread, the question was limited strictly to a 'how bad do we really think these keymap issues are' thing. Yes and I think they are bad enough that we should delay the release for them an

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 20:17 +1030, William Brown wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, bu

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread William Brown
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:42 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all > > > my poking about at keyboard layout bug

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all > > my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is > > that I'm pretty sad at the stat

Re: rawhide report: 20121226 changes

2013-01-03 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 2.1.2013 20:07, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): Bruno Wolff III (br...@wolff.to) said: On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 12:08:31 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Hm, wondering why there are not automatically filled bugs about broken dependencies. Wouldn't it be easier for tracking such issues? The owners g

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is that I'm pretty sad at the state of support for anything-but-U.S.-English in Fedora 18. ... I don't really

Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Caterpillar
Il 03/01/2013 09:03, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > 1. In the short term, is the combination of all these factors enough for > us to want to delay F18 further to try and make things suck less? I was waiting for an e-mail like yours, and I am happy to see someone speaking about a delay of F18 release

Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is that I'm pretty sad at the state of support for anything-but-U.S.-English in Fedora 18. Here's the tally: * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8895