Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:17:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > "Norvald H. Ryeng" writes: > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram > >> Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream > >> maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
"Norvald H. Ryeng" writes: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram >> Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream >> maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem >> to have stepped up yet. > Let's do it now, then. :-) Hmm... I

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 08/02/13 01:36 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Feb 8, 2013 12:54 PM, "Stephen John Smoogen" mailto:smo...@gmail.com>> wrote: . Two the fix is to upgrade to a very new > version which will break everyone who upgrades until they (or the > first person who gets to the website :) ) runs the upgrade m

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dan Mashal wrote: > I will look at switching MATE Desktop to KDM or MDM if necessary > (which I kind of wanted to do from the start, not the hugest fan of > LightDM as a user personally). As much as I like KDM, I don't think it'd be the optimal choice for the MATE spin due to its dependencies (Qt

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 09/02/13 01:03 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: ...but as Rahul said, they all allow you to log in to any desktop. There seems to be a meme in this thread that GDM does not, but that's not correct, it does. The choice is not visible unless you actually have multiple desktops ins

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream > maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem > to have stepped up yet. I really don't see what we have to gain from having 2 conflicting versions of MySQL in Fedora. It'd be a

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 02/14/2013 04:26 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >> I was still planning on retiring xmms. It has no upstream support. The >> volume control has issues that I don't have time to figure out. > > > esound can be disabled at build time - please

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 10/02/13 06:03 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Olav Vitters wrote: This has been addressed various times. In brief: Advanced buttons do not work. They'll be clicked every time. Tweak tool provides a different guarantee of stability. For instance: if you change an option in System Settings and it resu

Re: Request for a firewalld secondary DHCP + PXEBOOT HOWTO

2013-02-15 Thread Aaron Gray
On 14 February 2013 19:16, Pete Travis wrote: > On Feb 14, 2013 12:03 PM, "Pete Travis" wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2013 3:47 AM, "Aaron Gray" wrote: > > > > > > On 7 February 2013 16:41, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > wrote: > > >> > > >> On 02/07/2013 04:23 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: > > >>> > > >>>

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 14.02.13 03:26, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Not knowing too much about CK itself but out of concern for anyone >> that uses CK (including myself) I will be happy to take over >> ConsoleKit as the package maintai

Re: Self Introduction

2013-02-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Normunds Neimanis wrote: > Hello world, > > I want to say thanks to Petr Šabata who provided great coaching on rpm > tricks and sponsored me into packager group. > Welcome to Fedora! If you have any questions, feel free to ask Rahul -- devel mailing list de

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> >>> MariaDB WILL replace MySQL on upgrades. >>> >> >> Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream >> mai

Re: Unable to push update of emacs-24.2-6.fc18 to stable

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 13/02/13 07:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jochen Schmitt wrote: He explained me, that he also unable to push the package to the stable repository and told me, that this package is in crithpath and may improvement of an proventester. Why the heck is Emacs in the critical path in the first place

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 13/02/13 10:15 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: (well, more like crap, since I still haven't figured out how to get pulseaudio to use my digital audio outputs). Really? It's not that hard. It's either a device or a profile right on the very first tab of GNOME sound properties. If you're using pavuco

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Stef Walter
On 02/14/2013 06:35 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 02/14/2013 01:28 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 10:53 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:49:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> DJ Delorie wrote: > Disadvantage, if you ask me. First thing

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 20:39 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:28:57 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 10:53 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:49:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > > > DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > > Disadvant

[perl-Data-Validate-Domain/f18] Initial import (#904329).

2013-02-15 Thread Normunds Neimanis
Summary of changes: fdb3ace... Initial import (#904329). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

[perl-Shell/f18] Initial import (#904331).

2013-02-15 Thread Normunds Neimanis
Summary of changes: cb65684... Initial import (#904331). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On 13 Feb 2013 22:50, "Matthew Miller" wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38:42PM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: > > However, I have already removed consolekit on my F18 without any notable > > issue, so I do not think any breakage would be blocking. We have the > > whole F19 cycle to find and d

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/14/2013 01:07 PM, Chris wrote: 2013/2/14 Kevin Kofler: >Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >>Surely you are not honestly consider replacing mysql installation with >>mariadb on upgrades? > >Have you missed the discussion? MariaDB is a drop-in replacement for MySQL, >it will REPLACE MySQL in Fe

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/13/2013 02:16 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I for one would not want to find out that my mysql install would have been replaced with mariadb on upgrade ( or visa versa ) The discussion already started several weeks ago but we still need any feedback. What are you particular concerns

[pkgdb] perl-IPC-Cmd ownership changed

2013-02-15 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-IPC-Cmd in Fedora devel is now owned by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-IPC-Cmd -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/14/2013 06:28 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 02/14/2013 04:07 AM, Chris wrote: In other words: It is not possible to install mysql on ferdora 19??? Fedora and freedom??? Freedom is to have the choice between mysql and mariadb! Please read the other threads before exploding like this. To summ

File IPC-Cmd-0.78.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-02-15 Thread Petr Pisar
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[perl-IPC-Cmd] Import

2013-02-15 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 959e51b68497db0336c1c2f973f0271830e9d176 Author: Petr Písař Date: Fri Feb 15 10:18:51 2013 +0100 Import .gitignore|1 + dead.package |1 - perl-IPC-Cmd.spec | 67 + sources |1 + 4 files change

File Module-Load-Conditional-0.54.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-02-15 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-Load-Conditional: 626d90b25bd461388e4706ff7a631d72 Module-Load-Conditional-0.54.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin

[perl-Module-Load-Conditional] Import

2013-02-15 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 94faa4dcfdec033dcd850f90a7ede4558de6d257 Author: Petr Písař Date: Fri Feb 15 10:22:00 2013 +0100 Import .gitignore|1 + dead.package |1 - perl-Module-Load-Conditional.spec | 67 + sources

[pkgdb] perl-Module-Load-Conditional ownership changed

2013-02-15 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-Module-Load-Conditional in Fedora devel is now owned by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-Module-Load-Conditional -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Norvald H. Ryeng
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 03:30:01 +0100, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: "Norvald H. Ryeng" writes: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem to have

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:35:23 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:49:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> > >>> DJ Delorie wrote: > Disadvantage, if you ask me. First thing audacious did was spew > random errors to the screen and change my Firefox and emacs cursors. > >

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 02/15/2013 07:57 AM, Stef Walter wrote: On 02/14/2013 06:35 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 02/14/2013 01:28 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 10:53 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:49:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: Disadvantage,

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:33:46 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > PS. Yes, I repeat this message. Looks like it wasn't sent somehow :( As I had replied to the earlier message ;) here just a mention that I've reported the mispackaged nacl-devel: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/911405 -- Fedora release 19 (Ra

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:16:56 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > What I want is that "yum distro-sync" removes the package eventually. Then it will need an "Obsoletes" tag somewhere else to get rid of any installed CK packages. "yum distro-sync" doesn't remove orphans. It only upgrades/downgrades

Fedora 16 EOL Bugzilla Closure - strange behavior?

2013-02-15 Thread Tadej Janež
Hi! Here is an example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736498 I filled this bug during the F-16 Graphics test week. After the Fedora EOL reminder and before the bug was closed, I tried to reproduce it on F-17 and I couldn't. Thus I marked the bug as CLOSED CURRENTRELEASE. After a coup

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/15/2013 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Mariadb is evolving into it's own product with it's own feature set [1] thus should be treated as different product it should have it's own .cnf file it's own configuration directory which is best in the long run ( from my pov ). Then it sh

[Bug 911536] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61 is available

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=911536 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version

[Bug 911536] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61 is available

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=911536 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc18 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 910685] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.60 is available

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910685 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc18 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 911536] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61 is available

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=911536 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc17 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 910685] perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.60 is available

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910685 --- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Locale-SubCountry-1.61-1.fc17 -- You are receiving this

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > It's all going to depend on what we want the upgrade experience to be like > for people going from f18 to f19. I believe that FESCo punted it down the > road since there wasn't an actual MySQL package maintainer at the time we > decided to

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/14/2013 11:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:03 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug shows 45 owners on current F18. Other directories under /usr/lib/debug have a simila

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/15/2013 01:52 PM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/15/2013 01:24 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 09:09 AM, Honza Horak wrote: So again, if you have some concrete concerns, let us know, please. What are the plans to handle the name change in the daemon startup ( systemd unit )

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:17:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > The way this worked in the past (and still does on RHEL and some other > distros) is that MySQL AB provided RPMs named "MySQL", "MySQL-server", > etc, which simply conflicted with the Red Hat-supplied packages named > "mysql", "mysql-se

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Hughes
On 15/02/13 03:02, Adam Williamson wrote: On 08/02/13 01:36 PM, Pete Travis wrote: I haven't poked at mediawiki in a while, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it fairly self contained? I recall copying the content from /usr/share/ to /var/www/ then localizing. Having a new version sh

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/15/2013 12:39 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:07 AM, Honza Horak wrote: Then it should also need separate binaries, libraries, datadir, socket, ... I'm not saying it is so bad idea, but it could be taken into account only in the upstream, we really cannot do something l

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 02/15/2013 04:13 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream >> maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem >> to have stepped up yet. > > I really don't see what we have to gain from having

Re: xmms being retired as of F19

2013-02-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:01:52 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I plan to retire xmms before F20 is branched as it is causing issues with the removal of some other obsolete packages and it has no upstream support. If anyone has objections to this please speak up soon. There were objections

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I really don't see what we have to gain from having 2 conflicting versions > of MySQL in Fedora. > We never had the culture of questioning why anyone should include any package as long as it meets the current guidelines. As long as ther

[perl-Scope-Upper] update to 0.22

2013-02-15 Thread Iain Arnell
commit c94116e175ecb1f7d4881105ef57c968214dc0c2 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Fri Feb 15 08:24:13 2013 -0700 update to 0.22 perl-Scope-Upper.spec | 15 +++ 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Scope-Upper.spec b/perl-Scope-Upper.spec index 9ec98

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.02.2013 16:17, schrieb Tom Lane: > "Norvald H. Ryeng" writes: >> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram >>> Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream >>> maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem >>> to have stepped

Re: Request for a firewalld secondary DHCP + PXEBOOT HOWTO

2013-02-15 Thread Pete Travis
On Feb 15, 2013 6:39 AM, "Aaron Gray" wrote: > > Pete, > > Yeah that's the easy bits, they need details too. The bit I have yet to find out how to do is to forward HTTPS and DNS ports between the primary internet network and the secondary DHCP BOOTP network on 192.168.1.x. I had this working on S

[perl-DBIx-Class] update to 0.08206

2013-02-15 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 5fa4b7ad47cd42baff8352a703cfc259455de72a Author: Iain Arnell Date: Fri Feb 15 10:16:20 2013 -0700 update to 0.08206 .gitignore |1 + perl-DBIx-Class.spec | 10 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --- diff --git

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Pete Travis
On Feb 15, 2013 5:34 AM, "Adam Williamson" wrote: > > On 08/02/13 01:36 PM, Pete Travis wrote: . >> >> I haven't poked at mediawiki in a while, so please correct me if I'm >> wrong, but isn't it fairly self contained? I recall copying the content >> from /usr/share/ to /var/www/ then localizing. H

[Bug 911713] New: https stopped working on some sites

2013-02-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=911713 Bug ID: 911713 Summary: https stopped working on some sites Product: Fedora Version: 18 Component: perl-LWP-Protocol-https Severity: unspecified Priority: un

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:15:40 +0100 Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:33:46 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > > > PS. Yes, I repeat this message. Looks like it wasn't sent somehow :( > > As I had replied to the earlier message ;) here just a mention that > I've reported the mispackaged

Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement

2013-02-15 Thread drago01
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:16:56 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> What I want is that "yum distro-sync" removes the package eventually. > > Then it will need an "Obsoletes" tag somewhere else to get rid of any > installed CK packages. W

Pulseaudio and S/PDIF [was Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement]

2013-02-15 Thread DJ Delorie
(subject changed, please strip the [was...] when replying) > On 13/02/13 10:15 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > (well, more like crap, since I still haven't figured out how to > > get pulseaudio to use my digital audio outputs). > > Really? It's not that hard. It's either a device or a profile right on

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-15 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > When talking to Ubuntu users, they are telling Unity is as biasing as > Gnome3. Aside from the visual arrangement of things, I haven't seen *major* differences between the GNOME 3 and the Unity user interfaces. It's not all that hard for m

Heads up: ARM build system outage for migration

2013-02-15 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, A heads up that we're planning an outage of arm.koji.fedoraproject.org to migrate the koji instance to the new infrastructure in Phoenix. The outage will begin about 02:00 UTC on Saturday the 16th February and while we're not certain the exact time it should take we estimate it should be

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:03:50PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > Thanks for reply... Still, I'm puzzled about 45 packages owning > /usr/lib/debug, none of them the filesystem package. This looks > weird, although I don't grasp the consequences (if any). > > A normal review rule says that a package

gnome-settings-daemon (was: Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement)

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:13:32 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Could you tell me a test environment where auto-starting the daemon is > > reproducible? Then I might take a look at trying to avoid it. > > It should be auto-started when your app pokes at the not-yet-spawned > well-known D-Bus name.

Javascript packaging guidelines

2013-02-15 Thread Jeremy White
I am working to become a packager for spice-html5 [1]. Eduardo Echeverria has suggested that I break out the dependent Javascript libraries into separate packages, which I am now working on. I am attempting to follow the Javascript library packaging guideline [2], however I have uncovered an issu

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 15/02/13 05:44 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 15/02/13 03:02, Adam Williamson wrote: On 08/02/13 01:36 PM, Pete Travis wrote: I haven't poked at mediawiki in a while, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it fairly self contained? I recall copying the content from /usr/share/ to /var/www/

Re: gnome-settings-daemon (was: Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement)

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
> Yeah, a test environment would be good. Found a first one! EL6 with Openbox from EPEL. That one auto-spawns g-s-d when running Audacious unpatched. $ find /usr/share/dbus-1|grep Sett /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.service -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:03:50 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > On 02/14/2013 11:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:36:03 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > > > >> Running some automated tests I stumble over the debug directories. E. g., > >> > >> $ repoquery -qf /usr/lib/debug > >> > >>

Re: Announcing: Fedora ARM Technical Talks

2013-02-15 Thread Jon Masters
On 02/15/2013 02:32 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > Please see the following link for further details: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Talks/ARMTechTalks > > Today's talk is on debugging vexpress (Versatile Express) kernels > running under qemu models with gdb. It will simply cover se

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/15/2013 03:13 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/15/2013 12:52 PM, Honza Horak wrote: > > There is no change, the unit file is still mysqld.service. > > Hmm.. > > It's probably better to have an mariadb own unit files and create > corresponding mysql symbolic link to those unit file

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 02/15/2013 3:31 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/15/2013 01:50 PM, Honza Horak wrote: > > I still see the differences between MariaDB and MySQL to be very > > little. > > Difference never the less and difference in behavior ( which mariadbs > own benchmarking on their website proof )

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Lane
Rahul Sundaram writes: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> I really don't see what we have to gain from having 2 conflicting versions >> of MySQL in Fedora. > We never had the culture of questioning why anyone should include any > package as long as it meets the current gu

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Honza Horak
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:10 PM "Jan-Frode Myklebust" wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:17:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > The way this worked in the past (and still does on RHEL and some > > other > > distros) is that MySQL AB provided RPMs named "MySQL", > > "MySQL-server", > > etc, which

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 15/02/13 09:49 AM, Pete Travis wrote: Interestingly, 'repoquery -l' does show some of the mediawiki packages owning files in /var/www/. Whether grandfathered, broken, or just misconception, I'll keep further comment to myself until I can play with a VM. There are cases when there really ha

Re: Pulseaudio and S/PDIF [was Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement]

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 15/02/13 10:22 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: (subject changed, please strip the [was...] when replying) On 13/02/13 10:15 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: (well, more like crap, since I still haven't figured out how to get pulseaudio to use my digital audio outputs). Really? It's not that hard. It's either

Re: Pulseaudio and S/PDIF [was Re: ConsoleKit and esound retirement]

2013-02-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:22 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > (subject changed, please strip the [was...] when replying) > >> On 13/02/13 10:15 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> > (well, more like crap, since I still haven't figured out how to >> > get pulseaudio to use my digital audio outputs). >> >> Really? It

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 09:09 AM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/13/2013 02:16 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I for one would not want to find out that my mysql install would have been replaced with mariadb on upgrade ( or visa versa ) The discussion already started several weeks ago but we still need any

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 11:07 AM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:27 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Mariadb is evolving into it's own product with it's own feature set [1] thus should be treated as different product it should have it's own .cnf file it's own configuration directory which is best i

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 02:28 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:17:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: "Norvald H. Ryeng" writes: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream maintainers in Fedora as well. They did

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 09:09 AM, Honza Horak wrote: So again, if you have some concrete concerns, let us know, please. What are the plans to handle the name change in the daemon startup ( systemd unit ) in the migration faze to prevent users having to find out on their own how to start mariadb along

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.02.2013 04:13, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to get involved as downstream >> maintainers in Fedora as well. They did offer to do that but don't seem >> to have stepped up yet. > > I really don't see what we have to gain from having

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 01:50 PM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/15/2013 12:39 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 11:07 AM, Honza Horak wrote: If mysql on the other hand is banned in the distribution then arguably it makes sense to migrate those instances to the latest release of mariadb inst

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 05:40 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:07:22 +0100, Rahul Sundaram On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: MariaDB WILL replace MySQL on upgrades. Well, unless Oracle as upstream wants to g

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 09:40 AM, Norvald H. Ryeng wrote: Neither Andrew or I will do the packaging. I'll be involved, but someone from our build team will do the actual packaging. None of us are Fedora packagers, so I guess we'll need someone to review our packaging and sponsor us. Or current maint

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.02.2013 14:10, schrieb Jan-Frode Myklebust: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:17:00AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> >> The way this worked in the past (and still does on RHEL and some other >> distros) is that MySQL AB provided RPMs named "MySQL", "MySQL-server", >> etc, which simply conflicted with

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:24:31AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 15/02/13 05:44 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > >You're both kind of right - the README.RPM file that comes in the > >mediawiki package tells you to run "mw-createinstance " to create > >an instance and that sets up a document root in th

Re: /usr/lib/debug ownership

2013-02-15 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > - make a script to identify all the packages that are broken and > shipping debug stuff. AT least for the directory a simple yum call should suffice: yum --disablerepo '*' --enablerepo fedora\* whatprovides /usr/lib/debug But it

Does anybody know how to contact "louizatakk"?

2013-02-15 Thread Jamie Nguyen
Hello, I'm trying to contact the maintainer of python-sleekxmpp to request to co-maintain (as it's a bit out of date). Emails to his/her FAS email address are bouncing but there are no other maintainers to contact. Not really sure how exactly to get in touch given that email is the only form of c

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-15 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:31:42 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > Kevin, you work on a desktop which sufficiently represents your > views. I think we're all aware that if we want fifteen thousand > settings in the control panel, we can run KDE. Do you really believe > you're going to convince the GNOME

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/08/2013 08:46 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: The mediawiki package is severely outdated. I have attempted to contact the maintainer and received only one reply in a couple of weeks. He has ignored my requests for co-maintainership. I commented on the NRM bug[1] two weeks ago with no respon

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-15 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:13:08 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > On 09/02/13 01:03 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Last I checked, GDM also hid that feature so well that many users > > missed it. In fact, unless this changed recently, when you input > > your user name, the option is NOT shown, it only app

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer: mediawiki

2013-02-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 15 February 2013 12:24, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 15/02/13 05:44 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> On 15/02/13 03:02, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >>> On 08/02/13 01:36 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >>> I haven't poked at mediawiki in a while, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it fairly

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > It's all going to depend on what we want the upgrade experience to be like > > for people going from f18 to f19. I believe that FESCo punted it down the > > road since the

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 05:22:33PM -0500, Honza Horak wrote: > > Upstream chose the way of drop-in replacement, which means that the same > API including file names was actually a feature. Why we don't do it > differently in Fedora is obvious -- we don't want to differ from upstream. > Actually..

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:55:51AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/15/2013 02:28 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >It's all going to depend on what we want the upgrade experience to be like > >for people going from f18 to f19. I believe that FESCo punted it down the > >road since there w

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 09:12 PM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/15/2013 03:13 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 12:52 PM, Honza Horak wrote: There is no change, the unit file is still mysqld.service. Hmm.. It's probably better to have an mariadb own unit files and create corresponding mysql s

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/15/2013 09:32 PM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/15/2013 3:31 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 01:50 PM, Honza Horak wrote: I still see the differences between MariaDB and MySQL to be very little. Difference never the less and difference in behavior ( which mariadbs own benchma

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.02.2013 22:32, schrieb Honza Horak: > On 02/15/2013 3:31 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 02/15/2013 01:50 PM, Honza Horak wrote: >>> I still see the differences between MariaDB and MySQL to be very >>> little. >> >> Difference never the less and difference in behavior ( which maria

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 02:05:48PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > * even MySQL 5.5 had a HIDDEN soname break on a minor update with the > need of rebuild depending packages and now people will explain me > that two different forks are binary compatible - this is very > thin ice and can

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On 15/02/13 02:15 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 09:12 PM, Honza Horak wrote: On 02/15/2013 03:13 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/15/2013 12:52 PM, Honza Horak wrote: There is no change, the unit file is still mysqld.service. Hmm.. It's probably better to have an m

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.02.2013 23:15, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 02/15/2013 09:12 PM, Honza Horak wrote: >> On 02/15/2013 03:13 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>> On 02/15/2013 12:52 PM, Honza Horak wrote: There is no change, the unit file is still mysqld.service. >>> Hmm.. >>> >>> It's probably

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.02.2013 01:29, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 02:05:48PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> * even MySQL 5.5 had a HIDDEN soname break on a minor update with the >> need of rebuild depending packages and now people will explain me >> that two different forks are bi

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