F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FontconfigCacheDirChange Change owner(s): * Akira TAGOH The fontconfig cache files are placed onto /var/cache/fontconfig now. this seems incompatible with the ostree model. so this is a p

Re: New sources format

2016-12-21 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Tue, 2016-12-20 at 23:30 +, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 20/12/16 22:28, Christopher wrote: > > > > What's with the new sources format? > > The old format, I could do `md5sum -c sources` > > Why not make the new format with SHA512 follow the same pattern, so > > I could do: `shasum -c sources`

jplesnik pushed to perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases (f24). "3.02 bump"

2016-12-21 Thread notifications
From 70951f39a237c52d9d236ed0b6875009289efb16 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jitka Plesnikova Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 09:33:26 +0100 Subject: 3.02 bump --- .gitignore | 1 + perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases.spec | 5 - sources | 2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertion

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/21/2016 09:22 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FontconfigCacheDirChange Change owner(s): * Akira TAGOH The fontconfig cache files are placed onto /var/cache/fontconfig now. this seems incompa

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
> The fontconfig cache files are placed onto /var/cache/fontconfig now. > this seems incompatible with the ostree model. so this is a proposal > to move it to /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. Is OStree calling for the entire /var/cache to disappear, or is there something special about the Fontconfig cac

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 01:35:56AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > ...and actual QA, from the professionals and volunteers on the QA team, > > who are very good at finding bugs pre-release but currently do zero QA > > on our updates because it's an unmanageable rolling stream of a > > bazillion se

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
Hey everyone -- clearly there's a bit of a miscommunication here. Working it out through further discussion is good, but in the future, it's probably better to briefly take that off list and come back when both sides are satisfied that understanding has been reached. Otherwise, it adds a lot of noi

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20161221.n.0 changes

2016-12-21 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20161219.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20161221.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 15 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 144 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 43.37 MiB Size of dropped packages

Fedora Rawhide-20161221.n.0 compose check report

2016-12-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Workstation live i386 Xfce raw-xz armhfp Workstation live x86_64 Failed openQA tests: 14/91 (x86_64), 3/16 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 51754 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/51754 ID: 51755 Tes

Re: PkgDB

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 09:25:19 -0500 Greg Hellings wrote: > Marian, > > Alas, no luck with that. Nor with using a new browser nor a private > mode window. The error seems to legitimately be coming from the > server side. Just FYI as far as I can see, this got sorted out on IRC. Turns out to be

Re: Koji builders' specs

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:03:49 +0100 Pavel Raiskup wrote: > Hi all, > > where is documented what system/hw is used on (primary) Koji builders? > I'm interested in memory, storage, filesystem, host operating system, > guest operating system (if those are VMs), etc. > > The only thing I was able to

[Bug 1406581] perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-3.02 is available

2016-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1406581 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System --- perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-3.02-1.fc25 has been pushed to the Fedora 25 testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:U

Re: ssh using kerberos (was: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes)

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:27:33 -0600 Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 12:45 +0100, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > > On Sun, 2016-12-11 at 18:34 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > Greetings.  > > > > > > As previously announced, releng has made a number of changes as > > > part > >

Re: Koji builders' specs

2016-12-21 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:03:49 +0100 Pavel Raiskup wrote: > Hi all, > > where is documented what system/hw is used on (primary) Koji builders? > I'm interested in memory, storage, filesystem, host operating system, > guest operating system (if those are VMs), etc. > > The only thing I was able to

nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0

2016-12-21 Thread gil
from: Task info: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17017344 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7345/17017345/root.log " Error: nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0 needed by gdb-headless-7.12-31.fc26.i686" any ideas? regards .g _

Re: nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:06:03 +0100 gil wrote: > from: Task info: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17017344 > > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7345/17017345/root.log > > " Error: nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0 needed by > gdb-headless-7.12-31.fc26.i686

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 09:42 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > The fontconfig cache files are placed onto /var/cache/fontconfig > > now. > > this seems incompatible with the ostree model. so this is a > > proposal > > to move it to /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. > > This proposal likely is incompatible

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:18:54AM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > > > to move it to /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. > > This proposal likely is incompatible to the FHS. > > > > Files in directories below /usr/lib are supposed to static and not > > to be  dynamically created. > I agree - let's not violate

Re: release cycle thread (motivations, and... revisiting tick-tock?)

2016-12-21 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 12/20/2016 11:14 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Ter, 2016-12-20 at 11:20 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: 2. I really want releases to come at a known time every year, +/- two weeks. Keeping to this with six month targets means that if (when!) we slip, the next release may only have five or fou

Re: nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0

2016-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 09:12 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:06:03 +0100 > gil wrote: > > > from: Task info: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17017344 > > > > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7345/17017345/root.log > > > > " Error: nothing p

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.12.2016 v 18:08 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:18:54AM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: to move it to /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. >>> This proposal likely is incompatible to the FHS. >>> >>> Files in directories below /usr/lib are supposed to static and not >>> to be

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 21.12.2016 v 18:26 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > > Dne 21.12.2016 v 18:08 Matthew Miller napsal(a): >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:18:54AM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > to move it to /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. This proposal likely is incompatible to the FHS. Files in directories b

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Iiro Laiho
> I agree — it's ideal to avoid these kind of things. However, there are a > *lot* of moving parts, and we just plain don't have coverage for every use > case. I don't think the base.xml file is that incomprehensible. If you remove layouts from it, you can be pretty sure that they will be remov

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 12:08 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > I see that the fc-cache data is arch-specific, but is it really > host-specific? What if we just pre-generated it at *build* time and > put > it into /usr/share or /usr/lib? I guess that'd end up making font > files > archful, but that's no

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 06:26:48PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I see that the fc-cache data is arch-specific, but is it really > > host-specific? What if we just pre-generated it at *build* time and put > > it into /usr/share or /usr/lib? I guess that'd end up making font files > > archful, but t

Re: nothing provides libpython3.6m.so.1.0

2016-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 09:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 09:12 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:06:03 +0100 > > gil wrote: > > > > > from: Task info: > > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17017344 > > > > > > https://kojipkgs.fedora

Two questions about koji

2016-12-21 Thread Mattia Verga
It's the first time I'm trying to use 'fedpkg chain-build' feature, but I'm receiving an error that I don't understand. I want to chain-build 'kpmcore' and then 'kde-partitionmanager' in master. So, if I understood correctly, under kde-partitionmanager master branch I enter 'fedpkg chain-build k

Re: Two questions about koji

2016-12-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 20:16 +0100, Mattia Verga wrote: > Second question: I've uploaded new sources by using the new kinit  > method, but I see that the sources are actually double uploaded > (upload  > reaches 100% and then restart again a second time). Is that normal? I also noticed this change,

Re: pkgdb: Could not save the request for branch: master, has it already been requested?

2016-12-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "SM" == Sandro Mani writes: SM> Hi I filed the request to unretire eigen2, but I accidentally SM> specified only the rhbz ticket number instead of the full URL so it SM> got denied with "Invalid review BZ". I now tried filing a new SM> unretirement request with the full ticket url, but now

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:19 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > > The fontconfig cache files are placed onto /var/cache/fontconfig now. > > this seems incompatible with the ostree model. so this is a proposal > > to move it to /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. > > Is OStree calling for the entire /var/cache

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 at 18:33, Iiro Laiho wrote: > > I agree — it's ideal to avoid these kind of things. However, > > there are a *lot* of moving parts, and we just plain don't > > have coverage for every use case. [...] > > Quality control exists > > But what it does actually mean? I wo

Re: pkgdb: Could not save the request for branch: master, has it already been requested?

2016-12-21 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > This is the kind of thing that should probably be in an infrastructure > ticket instead of the mailing list, but I happened to see your message. > As far as I can tell, you're correct in your assessment and I'd > certainly cal

Re: pkgdb: Could not save the request for branch: master, has it already been requested?

2016-12-21 Thread Sandro Mani
On 21.12.2016 23:28, Till Maas wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: This is the kind of thing that should probably be in an infrastructure ticket instead of the mailing list, but I happened to see your message. As far as I can tell, you're correct in yo

Re: 2 packages seeking new point of contact

2016-12-21 Thread CAI Qian
FYI, I am taking over authd now. CAI Qian ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: pkgdb: Could not save the request for branch: master, has it already been requested?

2016-12-21 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:34:16PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > Side-note: the new package request allows either full url or just BZ ticket > number. Perhaps the unretirement form could be made to also accept both > inputs. Yes, a fix is already queued for the next release of the admin tool that p

Re: pkgdb: Could not save the request for branch: master, has it already been requested?

2016-12-21 Thread Sandro Mani
On 21.12.2016 23:52, Till Maas wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:34:16PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: Side-note: the new package request allows either full url or just BZ ticket number. Perhaps the unretirement form could be made to also accept both inputs. Yes, a fix is already queued for the

Re: orphaning python-ladon

2016-12-21 Thread CAI Qian
FYI, I'll pick it up now. CAI Qian ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Iiro Laiho
> You've just offended three people without knowing anything about them. No. I am just describing the current QA procedure. The +1 comments from three people are seen as some kind of proof of stability of the update, and those commenters don't go through any screening of any manner. "Works for m

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
If you didn't mean insult by your comments (which came across as rather aggressive to me, too), it sufficient to say "Oh, sorry, I didn't mean it that way." I know it's natural and easy to get defensive, but Dominik is totally in right with the code of conduct reminder. -- Matthew Miller Fedora

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread William Moreno
Liro the QA team do the best they can to test updates before they go to stable, but you hit a diferent issue, there is not enough people testing packages before going to stable. My keyboard layout is spanish, most QA people have a English keyboard layout, I can update and I do not note the missing

Review swaps

2016-12-21 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
I have two packages for review. These should be very simple reviews. python-pathlib2: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1406962 python-ipykernel: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1406958 Thanks, Paulo ___ devel mailing list -- dev

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Iiro Laiho wrote: > No. I am just describing the current QA procedure. The +1 comments from > three people are seen as some kind of proof of stability of the update, > and those commenters don't go through any screening of any manner. "Works > for me" really is a common expression in those comments

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 01:27:34AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > * automatically summing up unrelated +1 and -1 comments with no human > looking at the contents does not work – 4 "+1 works for me" and 1 "-1 > destroys all my data" disastrously sum up to "+3". I think simply blocking autokarma o

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 23:36 +, Iiro Laiho wrote: > > You've just offended three people without knowing anything about them. > > No. I am just describing the current QA procedure. The +1 comments > from three people are seen as some kind of proof of stability of the > update, No they aren't. Y

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Iiro Laiho wrote: >> You've just offended three people without knowing anything about them. > > No. I am just describing the current QA procedure. The +1 comments from three > people are seen as some kind of proof of stability of the update, and those > commenter

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 18:34 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > Well it seems to me if a packaging change means some files are going > to be removed upon updating that package with the new (and changed) > package, that it's reasonable something somewhere is going to break, > and that this should cause the

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Filipe Rosset
Hi Laiho, your bug was fixed less than five hours from the report. Keep in mind that is a bit hard to find an issue in a specific Language, so please do not blame testers/QA guys. Feel free to always report these situations and keep contribuing with tests/patches. Cheers, Filipe R.

Strange koji failures

2016-12-21 Thread Christopher
Hi, I occasionally get this strange failure in koji. Sometimes this happens with a good package build, and I can just re-submit it without changing anything, and it works fine. Is this a known issue? For example, from https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1330/17021330/build.log: sh: /u

Strange koji failures

2016-12-21 Thread Christopher
Hi, I occasionally get this strange failure in koji. Sometimes this happens with a good package build, and I can just re-submit it without changing anything, and it works fine. Is this a known issue? For example, from https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1330/17021330/build.log: sh: /u

Re: Strange koji failures

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 03:03:56 + Christopher wrote: > Hi, > > I occasionally get this strange failure in koji. Sometimes this > happens with a good package build, and I can just re-submit it > without changing anything, and it works fine. Is this a known issue? > > For example, from > https:/

Re: Two questions about koji

2016-12-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Mattia Verga wrote: > It's the first time I'm trying to use 'fedpkg chain-build' feature, but > I'm receiving an error that I don't understand. > I want to chain-build 'kpmcore' and then 'kde-partitionmanager' in > master. So, if I understood correctly, under kde-partitionmanager master > branch I

Re: Quality control, does it exist? A recent update removed a keyboard layout from system.

2016-12-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 18:34 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Well it seems to me if a packaging change means some files are going >> to be removed upon updating that package with the new (and changed) >> package, that it's reasonable something

Re: Strange koji failures

2016-12-21 Thread Christopher
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:14 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 03:03:56 + > Christopher wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I occasionally get this strange failure in koji. Sometimes this > > happens with a good package build, and I can just re-submit it > > without changing anything, and it

Xapian 1.4 headed to rawhide

2016-12-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Just a heads up that xapian 1.4 is headed to rawhide. Peter ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Xapian 1.4 headed to rawhide

2016-12-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/21/2016 11:12 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Just a heads up that xapian 1.4 is headed to rawhide. Peter ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org I tried to

Re: Xapian 1.4 headed to rawhide

2016-12-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> Hi All, >> >> Just a heads up that xapian 1.4 is headed to rawhide. >> >> Peter >> ___ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> > > I tried to rebuild doxygen - fix