On 12/08/2017 09:25 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Does anyone know why there have been no updates or changes to any of
> the Fedora repos (including rawhide) since Monday?
It was due to the planned infrastructure datacenter move. I believe
updates went out today and things should be back to normal.
On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 23:26 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 16:19 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 00:04 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > >
> > > hum Markdown plugin is build with GTK3 , the plus of GTK+ is
> > > confusing
> > > me
> >
> > GTK+ is the corr
# F28 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2017-12-11
# Time: 17:00 UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Hi folks! We have two proposed blockers and one proposed freeze
exception for Fedora 28 Beta, and one proposed blocker for Fedora 28
Final, so let's have a quick review meeting
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't
think we have anything requiring discussion this week. If you're aware
of anything important we have to discuss this week, please do reply to
this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks!
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA C
On 12/08/2017 06:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 10:45 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 12/08/2017 10:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
You are telling me there hundreds of people that have complete
control over all the packages in fedora with no boundaries???
They can do anyt
De: "Matthew Miller"
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 07:03:48PM +0100, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
>> I am proposing for inclusion a macro set aimed at automating the packaging
>> of forge-hosted projects.
> Also, is "forge" synonymous with "git hosting service" as used here?
Here a "forge" is p
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:46:03AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/08/2017 11:21 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
> > The kernel is actually blacklisted from proven packager access, you can't
> > make changes there.
> This is good to know... how do you get on that list? ;-)
> >
> > Apa
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 07:03:48PM +0100, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
> I am proposing for inclusion a macro set aimed at automating the packaging of
> forge-hosted projects.
Could we be more specific about what "forges" are supported? I see
github and googlesource.com in the examples, but
On 12/08/2017 12:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 12:01 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>> Then on the other hand I get these pull-requests that
>> work so well!
>>
>> So I just don't understand why for non-massive changes
>> why is it not required to go through the pull-req
Hi,
I am proposing for inclusion a macro set aimed at automating the packaging of
forge-hosted projects.
— Packaging draft:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forge-hosted_projects_packaging_automation
— FPC ticket: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/719 (without the
“hasdraft” tag becaus
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 10:45 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 10:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> > You are telling me there hundreds of people that have complete
> > control over all the packages in fedora with no boundaries???
> > They can do anything they what??? Wow...
>
> Not rea
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 12:11 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
> On 12/08/2017 11:54 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 11:40 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > > Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred
On 12/08/2017 08:33 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:21:10AM -0500, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
>> - Original Message -
Unless you want to say that the change is somehow wrong, please
don't say that "poeple [...] are clueless", because that's disingenuou
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:21:10AM -0500, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>> > > Unless you want to say that the change is somehow wrong, please
>> > > don't say that "poeple [...] are clueless", because that
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 12:01 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> Then on the other hand I get these pull-requests that
> work so well!
>
> So I just don't understand why for non-massive changes
> why is it not required to go through the pull-request
> process?
There is a pedestrian reason, which is
On Friday, 08 December 2017 at 18:07, Steve Dickson wrote:
[...]
> > A proven packager is not someone random, they were given access
> > based on various criteria and that IMHO includes the fact that
> > their perception or "feels" about what has to be done on other
> > people's packages, is aligne
* Steve Dickson [08/12/2017 12:11] :
>
> But if it is non-massive, non-critical shouldn't the maintainer be notified?
If it's trivial, I'm ok with being informed via fedmsg telling me a commit has
been made. In this case, this was a trivial fix that the maintainer should have
done years ago so I c
On 12/08/2017 12:10 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 12:01 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>> On 12/08/2017 11:46 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
>>> You're blowing this way out of proportion, as if this was a
>>> catastrophe. History shows that it isn't.
>>
>> Maybe I am... Would not be t
On 12/08/2017 11:54 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 11:40 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>> On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>> Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two hundred
>>> proven packagers and somehow none of them decide to m
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 12:01 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 11:46 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > You're blowing this way out of proportion, as if this was a
> > catastrophe. History shows that it isn't.
>
> Maybe I am... Would not be the first time! ;-)
>
> In last couple of months the
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:52:21AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/08/2017 11:28 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> > On 12/08/2017 05:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:59:20AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Ję
On 12/08/2017 11:59 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Steve Dickson"
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>> , "Charalampos Stratakis"
>>
>> Cc: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" , "Yaakov Selkowitz"
>>
>> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:45:47AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 10:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >You are telling me there hundreds of people that have complete
> >control over all the packages in fedora with no boundaries???
> >They can do anything they what??? Wow...
>
> Not
On 12/08/2017 11:46 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 11:40 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>> On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>> Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two
>>> hundred proven packagers and somehow none of them decide
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-12-08)
===
Meeting started by tyll at 16:05:46 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-12-08/fesco.2017-12-08-16.05.log.html
Meeting summary
-
- Original Message -
> From: "Steve Dickson"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> , "Charalampos Stratakis"
>
> Cc: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" , "Yaakov Selkowitz"
>
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 5:46:03 PM
> Subject: Re: What to I have to do
>
>
>
> On 12
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 11:40 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
> On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two hundred
> > proven packagers and somehow none of them decide to mess up the kernel
> > any day. In fact, the com
On 8 December 2017 at 11:40, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two hundred
>> proven packagers and somehow none of them decide to mess up the kernel
>> any day. In fact, the commits wh
On 12/08/2017 11:28 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 05:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:59:20AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
How would the overhead be lower? Instead of a sing
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 11:40 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
> On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two
> > hundred proven packagers and somehow none of them decide to mess up
> > the kernel any day. In fact, the com
On 12/08/2017 11:21 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
> The kernel is actually blacklisted from proven packager access, you can't
> make changes there.
This is good to know... how do you get on that list? ;-)
>
> Apart from that though, I don't really see any reasons for creating this
> thread
On 12/08/2017 10:40 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
You are telling me there hundreds of people that have complete
control over all the packages in fedora with no boundaries???
They can do anything they what??? Wow...
Not really. There are a handful of packages that are protected. I tried to push a
g
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-12-08)
===
Meeting started by tyll at 16:05:46 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-12-08/fesco.2017-12-08-16.05.log.html
On 12/08/2017 11:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Well, I'd say this works great. There's maybe a hundred or two hundred
> proven packagers and somehow none of them decide to mess up the kernel
> any day. In fact, the commits which caused this thread are _correct_:
> so far I haven't h
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:21:10AM -0500, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > > Unless you want to say that the change is somehow wrong, please
> > > don't say that "poeple [...] are clueless", because that's disingenuous.
> > Fair enough... "clueless" was probably not t
On 12/08/2017 05:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:59:20AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>>> How would the overhead be lower? Instead of a single clean commit that
>>> does what needs to be done y
- Original Message -
> From: "Steve Dickson"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> , "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek"
>
> Cc: "Yaakov Selkowitz"
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 4:31:58 PM
> Subject: Re: What to I have to do
>
>
>
> On 12/08/2017 10:07 AM, Zbigniew Jęd
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 09:14 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
> On 12/07/2017 06:13 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 10:31 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > What do I have to do to stop random people
> > > from making random changes to packages I maintain?
> > >
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:59:20AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 09:14:35AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/07/2017 06:13 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 10:31 -0500, St
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:31:58AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/08/2017 10:07 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 08:31:44AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/07/2017 02:18 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> >>> On 2017-12-07 09:31, Steve Dickso
On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 09:14:35AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2017 06:13 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 10:31 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
Hello,
What do I have to do to stop random pe
On 12/08/2017 10:07 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 08:31:44AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2017 02:18 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
>>> On 2017-12-07 09:31, Steve Dickson wrote:
What do I have to do to stop random people
from making rand
On Fri, 2017-12-08 at 10:17 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> I still don't quite understand why only some packages have the
> debuginfo/debugsource split (I counted ~10k debugsources to ~30k
> debuginfo). Is that an automatic process that just needs to happen
> over time, or do the maintainers n
On 12/08/2017 06:26 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 09:25:05AM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>> Does anyone know why there have been no updates or changes to any of
>> the Fedora repos (including rawhide) since Monday?
>
> Darn, I just found the announcement about the data cente
On 12/08/2017 06:29 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 15:47 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
The bottom line is that it's pretty tricky to figure this out, which is
a pity because easy debuggability is one of the important cultural
features of Fedora and FOSS. It's a regression: GDB
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 09:14:35AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/07/2017 06:13 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 10:31 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> What do I have to do to stop random people
> >> from making random changes to packages I maintain?
>
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting onirc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2017-12-08 16:00 UTC'
Links to all issues below can
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 08:31:44AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 12/07/2017 02:18 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> > On 2017-12-07 09:31, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >> What do I have to do to stop random people
> >> from making random changes to packages I maintain?
> >>
> >> How do people get
On 12/07/2017 03:37 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy
>
>> These were properly announced:
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/RJYQNLIWBAVQPGLIGUT77WG
On 12/08/2017 09:00 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 12/08/2017 02:40 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> On 12/07/2017 02:31 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> On 12/07/2017 04:31 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
Where committed to the master branch and not to any other
branch make the maintenance
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 09:25:05AM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Does anyone know why there have been no updates or changes to any of
> the Fedora repos (including rawhide) since Monday?
Darn, I just found the announcement about the data center move. Never mind...
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On 12/07/2017 06:13 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 10:31 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do I have to do to stop random people
>> from making random changes to packages I maintain?
>>
>> How do people get this type of permission?
>>
>> Case in point;
>>
>> comm
On 12/08/2017 02:40 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
Hey,
On 12/07/2017 02:31 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 12/07/2017 04:31 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
Where committed to the master branch and not to any other
branch make the maintenance of those branches a pain
because I can no longer cherry-pick betwee
On 12/07/2017 05:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Steve Dickson wrote:
>> Where committed to the master branch and not to any other
>> branch make the maintenance of those branches a pain
>> because I can no longer cherry-pick between branches.
>> I have to make multiple commits to multiple branches
Hey,
On 12/07/2017 03:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 10:31 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>> Where committed to the master branch and not to any other
>> branch make the maintenance of those branches a pain
>> because I can no longer cherry-pick between branches.
>> I have
Hey,
On 12/07/2017 02:31 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 12/07/2017 04:31 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>> Where committed to the master branch and not to any other
>> branch make the maintenance of those branches a pain
>> because I can no longer cherry-pick between branches.
>
> Maybe you can elabora
On 12/07/2017 02:18 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> On 2017-12-07 09:31, Steve Dickson wrote:
>> What do I have to do to stop random people
>> from making random changes to packages I maintain?
>>
>> How do people get this type of permission?
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_pol
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 02:07:51AM +, Michael Cullen wrote:
> > because I can no longer cherry-pick between branches.
>
> Not true at all - you’d be surprised how well git deals with cherry
> picks across diverse branches. And even when it doesn’t there’s very
> rarely anything in a spec file
On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 15:47 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> The bottom line is that it's pretty tricky to figure this out, which is
> a pity because easy debuggability is one of the important cultural
> features of Fedora and FOSS. It's a regression: GDB used to point to
> integrated .debuginf
Il 08/dic/2017 12:39 AM, "Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski" <
domi...@greysector.net> ha scritto:
On Thursday, 07 December 2017 at 18:54, Jan Kurik wrote:
> During the Autumn 2017 Election cycle we wanted to try a new approach
> in the way how Elections are organized [1]. Unfortunately, at the
> beg
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