Fedora 28-20180316.n.1 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 14/137 (x86_64), 5/23 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 206139 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/206139 ID: 206145 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_database_serv

Fedora Rawhide-20180316.n.1 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 17/137 (x86_64), 5/23 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 205977 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/205977 ID: 205983 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_database_serv

Fedora 28 compose report: 20180316.n.1 changes

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-28-20180316.n.0 NEW: Fedora-28-20180316.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 121.15 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Dennis Gilmore
El vie, 16-03-2018 a las 15:19 -0700, Adam Williamson escribió: > On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 16:04 -0400, Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > > modules are not RPMs. I would not expect them to necessarily use > > the same > > format as RPMs. If we take koji out of the equation, > > That's an extremely big and

Re: Review swaps

2018-03-16 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On vendredi 16 mars 2018 22:33:42 CET Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Robert-André Mauchin > > wrote: > > I'm looking for some help to review some Golang packages. These are all > > renamed packages to conform with the new Golang guidelines which > > standardizes package

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > Who still use cds ? , one pen usb do the work much better ... I used them until the images stopped fitting, but that was not really the point. I used CD size as a tangible unit to measure things in. If you prefer straightforward abstract units: F17: 0.7 GiB, F27: 1.5 GiB, F

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180316.n.1 changes

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180316.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180316.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 1 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 49 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 91.26 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Dennis Gregorovic
Don't be afraid of koji. :) It is under active development. Of course, resources are limited and not everything can be taken on, but it's worth having the discussion. I have filed https://pagure.io/koji/issue/851 as a strawman and will try to solicit feedback on the idea. Patrick, if https://pa

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 23:31 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler wrote: > > DejaVu had already proven at that time fontforge was more than good enough > > for a complex modern font. > > In the sense that you can write a complex application in assembler, yes. With > an assembler full of quirks and bugs. I h

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 23:25 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Sat, 2018-03-17 at 00:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin > > > > I have read that page. There is not a single compelling reason > > warranting > > the global size in

Re: test gate failures (again)

2018-03-16 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 09 March 2018 at 12:02, Pavel Zhukov wrote: > Hello, > Gating is failed for some weird reason: > > # Test died: command 'dnf -y install bodhi-client git createrepo koji' > failed at /var/lib/openqa/share/tests/fedora/lib/utils.pm line 383. > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FE

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nikolaus Waxweiler
> DejaVu had already proven at that time fontforge was more than good enough > for a complex modern font. In the sense that you can write a complex application in assembler, yes. With an assembler full of quirks and bugs. I have used Fontforge, I know why I ran from it and why people have been

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2018-03-17 at 00:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin > > I have read that page. There is not a single compelling reason > warranting > the global size increase across the whole distribution nor the > recurring > breakage

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Annobin I have read that page. There is not a single compelling reason warranting the global size increase across the whole distribution nor the recurring breakage from annobin bugs (see e.g. this thread). I am really fed up of the ca

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 20:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > I've actually seen the exact same thing in something else, I forget > > what and can't find the bug right now. I think just building with > > the > > Rawhide annobin package makes it work, so we might need an update

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nikolaus Waxweiler wrote: > It is my upstream opinion that the entire free desktop landscape should > use Noto Sans/Serif (UI) as the default (fallback) font for everything and > not ship anything else in a base system, except DejaVu Mono because Noto > Mono has only a regular face. For the record

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 16:14 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > > If that means > > tweaking the Koji UI we can look into that. > > For my concerns, it would be more helpful to tweak the Koji API than the > UI, so that tools that interact with Koji (like Bodhi) don't have to > know that Modules are di

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 16:04 -0400, Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > modules are not RPMs. I would not expect them to necessarily use the same > format as RPMs. If we take koji out of the equation, That's an extremely big and invalid 'if', though. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: ada

Re: Review swaps

2018-03-16 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > I'm looking for some help to review some Golang packages. These are all > renamed packages to conform with the new Golang guidelines which > standardizes package names. These are super simple devel only package and > shouldn't pose a

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > The challenge here is that those module builds are squeezed into a N-V-R > format when imported into Koji. The N-V-R format is used for all build > types in Koji and it works well for its purpose, but it's also not > realistic to expect

Fedora 28-20180316.n.0 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 15/137 (x86_64), 5/23 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 205499 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/205499 ID: 205505 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_database_serv

Fedora Rawhide-20180316.n.0 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 36/137 (x86_64), 12/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180312.n.0): ID: 205331 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default_upload URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/205331 ID: 205335 Test: x86

Fedora Rawhide-20180315.n.1 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 83/137 (x86_64), 24/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 205074 Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/205074 ID: 205075 Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedorapro

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 19:47 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : > > 2. There were no obvious ways to contribute because open-source > tooling either didn't exist or was something you didn't want to use > (Fontforge I'm looking at you) Please, don't rewrite history, DejaVu had already proven

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Randy Barlow
On 03/16/2018 04:04 PM, Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > modules are not RPMs.  I would not expect them to necessarily use the > same format as RPMs.  If we take koji out of the equation, we have > module builds in N:S:V:C format and module RPMs in N-V-R.A format.  They > use different separators, but bo

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Dennis Gregorovic
modules are not RPMs. I would not expect them to necessarily use the same format as RPMs. If we take koji out of the equation, we have module builds in N:S:V:C format and module RPMs in N-V-R.A format. They use different separators, but both can be parsed consistently. The challenge here is tha

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nikolaus Waxweiler
1. Gnome and Ubuntu had good reasons: DejaVu fits the bill when you want a free Verdana for text and terminal, but the design isn't made for UI or branding. Ubuntu is significantly nicer to look at than something using DejaVu. 2. There were no obvious ways to contribute because open-source tooli

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Randy Barlow
On 03/16/2018 05:18 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > I wonder what we can do about this. Is it FESCo material? > Can the folks working on modularity comment more on this? I am considering filing it for FESCo to consider. I haven't seen a compelling explanation for why modules are using a different

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Scott Talbert
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 20:47 -0400, Scott Talbert wrote: I'm seeing a strange error when building wxGTK3 on F28. This only happens on x86_64. The same package built fine on Rawhide. Anyone have any ideas what's going on here? This message [1] (70 tim

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > I've actually seen the exact same thing in something else, I forget > what and can't find the bug right now. I think just building with the > Rawhide annobin package makes it work, so we might need an updated > annobin for F28, or something. Now why is that buggy binary-bl

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-03-16)

2018-03-16 Thread Jared K. Smith
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2018-03-16) === Meeting started by jsmith at 15:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available athttps://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-03-16/fesco.2018-03-16-15.01.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Review swaps

2018-03-16 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Hello, I'm looking for some help to review some Golang packages. These are all renamed packages to conform with the new Golang guidelines which standardizes package names. These are super simple devel only package and shouldn't pose any issue. Of course I'm available for any review in exchange.

Fedora 28 compose report: 20180316.n.0 changes

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-28-20180315.n.0 NEW: Fedora-28-20180316.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 8 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

batched periodic updates with security 'fast-tracked', vs incumbent continous updates firehose

2018-03-16 Thread R P Herrold
I see the ongoing disagreement as to approaches in the Fedora FESCO bug, Adjust/Drop/Document batched updates policy [A], and here. I think there is some ** common ground **, fairly easy to implement, to satisfy both the: 'we need testing at once' cohort, and the: 'we are bandwidth constraine

Re: GCC 8.0.1 updates in F28

2018-03-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 13:13 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Friday, 16 March 2018 at 01:36, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 18:26 +0100, Dan Horák wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:11:49 + > > > Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180316.n.0 changes

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180315.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180316.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 7 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 164 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 1.01 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B

Changes in Fedora Release Engineering

2018-03-16 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Hi all, Today I am writing to announce some changes in Fedora Release Engineering. Effective Friday the 23rd of March 2018 Mohan Boddu will be taking over as the primary person responsible for Release Engineering in Fedora. Mohan has effectively been the primary person since Fedora 26 as he has b

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 12:09 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 20:47 -0400, Scott Talbert wrote: > > I'm seeing a strange error when building wxGTK3 on F28. This only > > happens > > on x86_64. The same package built fine on Rawhide. Anyone have any > > ideas > > what's going on

Re: GCC 8.0.1 updates in F28

2018-03-16 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 16 March 2018 at 01:36, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 18:26 +0100, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:11:49 + > > Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Vascom wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > GCC 8.0.1-0.16 in F28 repo is fre

Re: Link error in F28 (but not Rawhide)

2018-03-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 20:47 -0400, Scott Talbert wrote: > I'm seeing a strange error when building wxGTK3 on F28. This only > happens > on x86_64. The same package built fine on Rawhide. Anyone have any > ideas > what's going on here? This message [1] (70 times) is very strange and seems the ro

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 11:49 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : > You sound like you need to cool your head. > > > It's kind of sad that despite being is stasis for years DejaVu is > > still leagues away from prototypes dumped on our users just for the > > coolness factor > > Well duh ;) An

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nikolaus Waxweiler
> But even compared to Noto, DejaVu has lots coverage for convenient glyphs > that people added over the years People who want those can and probably know how to continue to use DejaVu or one of its derivatives. Cathedrals and bazaars can happily coexist :) This is about setting a sane and cons

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 11:49 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : > > Not sure what you're referring to? Do you mean something specific > about the Notos? I mean all the idiots that will look down on any font with some community development, because “professional” is better. It’s not necessari

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 07:14 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > I personally would prefer if we used Noto across the board. It's a > fantastic font family, and its CJK and Indic font representation is > fairly solid for me. Anyway and just to be clear I'll be personally happy with any default FL

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nikolaus Waxweiler
You sound like you need to cool your head. > It's kind of sad that despite being is stasis for years DejaVu is still > leagues away from prototypes dumped on our users just for the coolness factor Well duh ;) > And, I wouldn't put to much weight on “professional” development. The last > years

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 04:07 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > Are you conflating Cantarell and Noto there? I am not especially > qualified to judge the quality of any of these fonts, but the Noto > family's script coverage seems pretty solid: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noto_fonts#L

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-03-16)

2018-03-16 Thread Jared K. Smith
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2018-03-16 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues below ca

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 12:00 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 10:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : >> > > >> > >> > Fine with me actually. DejaVu only having two weights (the thin looks >> > more experimental

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 12:00 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 10:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : > > > > > > > Fine with me actually. DejaVu only having two weights (the thin looks > > more experimental to me) is going to clash with Gnome's design > > intentions th

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 10:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : > > > Fine with me actually. DejaVu only having two weights (the thin looks > more experimental to me) is going to clash with Gnome's design > intentions though from what I hear. Noto would still be preferable > because it's the

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nikolaus Waxweiler
> Users prefer sans and sans mono to be synchronized Weight parity is in the works :) https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts-alpha/tree/master/from-pipeline/unhinted/otf/sans/NotoSansMono. A true italic seems to be a way off though. > so maybe it’s time to put back as default a font with dece

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 09:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit : > It is my upstream opinion that the entire free desktop landscape > should use Noto Sans/Serif (UI) as the default (fallback) font for > everything and not ship anything else in a base system, except DejaVu > Mono because Noto Mo

Re: Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Nikolaus Waxweiler
It is my upstream opinion that the entire free desktop landscape should use Noto Sans/Serif (UI) as the default (fallback) font for everything and not ship anything else in a base system, except DejaVu Mono because Noto Mono has only a regular face. Self-quote: > The difference between Noto S

Re: Gating packages in Rawhide

2018-03-16 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 06:05:22PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On 03/09/2018 04:20 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I had a different idea in mind, basically try to keep the experience as > > close as > > what it is now. > > for single package: > > - packager commit > > - packager build > >

Re: Goodbye nvr.rsplit('-', 2), hello modularity

2018-03-16 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 05:47:41PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > So: there would be no problem with - in the *name* of the modules, so > long as that's the first field, which apparently it is. > > The problem is if you allow the delimiter in *both* the first and last > fields, or in *any other f

Use Noto Sans UI for Cantarell fallback in Workstation?

2018-03-16 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, In Workstation, our UI font is Cantarell. I was chatting to Cantarell's upstream maintainer, Nikolaus Waxweiler yesterday and he said that we should be using Noto Sans UI as a fallback for glyphs where Cantarell lacks coverage (cyrillic, for example). Right now we're falling back to DejaV

Re: GCC 8.0.1 updates in F28

2018-03-16 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:36:47 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 18:26 +0100, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:11:49 + > > Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Vascom wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > GCC 8.0.1-0.16 in F28 repo is f

Fedora-Atomic 27-20180316.0 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 2/2 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Fedora Rawhide-20180315.n.1 compose check report

2018-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 22:26 +, Fedora compose checker wrote: > No missing expected images. > > Failed openQA tests: 84/137 (x86_64), 24/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) Virtually all tests currently fail on Rawhide because a complete redesign of Cantarell - the font we use in anaconda - landed and broke