Re: Orphaning some packages

2019-08-10 Thread Elliott Sales de Andrade
Hi Pierre, On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 14:35, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > I think it's time I make amends and recognize that I've been a terrible > maintainer for a number of my packages. > So I'd like to orphan the following packages hoping they can find a better > home.

Re: Better interactivity in low-memory situations

2019-08-10 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 09 Aug 2019 23:50:43 +0200, Chris Murphy wrote: > $ cmake -DPORT=GTK -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RelWithDebInfo -GNinja RelWithDebInfo is -O2 -g build. That is not suitable for debugging, for debugging you should use -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug (that is -g). RelWithDebInfo is useful for final rpm pac

Signing problem again in Rawhide?

2019-08-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
This package was built over 24 hours ago: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1349103 but it hasn't appeared in Rawhide yet. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.word

Re: Discussion around app retirements and categorizations by the CPE team

2019-08-10 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:17 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 01:13:50PM -0400, Tim Zabel wrote: > >Hello, > >I'm a little late to this conversation, but is fpaste in Category 4 due > > to > >the high legal costs, or because of a lack of a maintainer? > >It

Re: Signing problem again in Rawhide?

2019-08-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:09:50AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > This package was built over 24 hours ago: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1349103 > > but it hasn't appeared in Rawhide yet. It seems the problem may only apply to this package, as I've just buil

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Björn Persson
Rafal Luzynski wrote: > 9.08.2019 22:10 Jerry James wrote: > > Source: https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz > > Do we need to change ftp to https? That's the wrong question to ask. The right question is: What reason is there to choose an insecure protocol when HTTPS is

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Rafal Luzynski
10.08.2019 13:12 Björn Persson wrote: > [...] > Anyway, the answer is yes: > > 220 GNU FTP server ready. > USER anonymous > 230-NOTICE (Updated October 13 2017): > 230- > 230-Because of security concerns with plaintext protocols, we still > 230-intend to disable the FTP protocol for downloads on

Re: bootctl: no entry could be determined as default (Was: Upgrade to F30 gone wrong)

2019-08-10 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
Hi, > That only works properly on distros that implement the boot loader > spec and the boot loader interface properly: > > https://systemd.io/BOOT_LOADER_SPECIFICATION > https://systemd.io/BOOT_LOADER_INTERFACE Thanks for the links, I looked briefly when you replied but figured I'd need a quiet

Modules in rawhide (that shouldn't be there)

2019-08-10 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hi all, There is a Mass Branching scheduled for next Tuesday, that is on Aug 13th 2019. There were some modules that are stuck in rawhide that shouldn't be there, please create a ticket in https://pagure.io/releng with the list of module builds that shouldn't be there and we will remove them from

Re: [HEADS-UP] dav1d and aom SONAME bump

2019-08-10 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 09 August 2019 at 17:40, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > Hello, > > Next week I will update dav1d to version 0.4.0 which includes a SONAME bump, > and will do a GIT snapshot of aom, whose library is unstable. > > I will push these updates both on F31 and F30, so consumers of these > li

Re: Modules in rawhide (that shouldn't be there)

2019-08-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
You meant more like "rebuilding" modules rather than branching, right? On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:09 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: > > Hi all, > > There is a Mass Branching scheduled for next Tuesday, that is on Aug 13th > 2019. There were some modules that are stuck in rawhide that shouldn't be > there

Re: Xen / EC2 release criteria proposal

2019-08-10 Thread W. Michael Petullo
> "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing > a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers > utilizing Xen." I am a long time Xen/Fedora user. In fact, I rely on Fedora as my Dom0. I acknowledge that there are not too many of us, and I further ackn

Re: [Xen-devel] Xen / EC2 release criteria proposal

2019-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2019-08-10 at 17:01 +0300, Matt Wilson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 05:56:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > [...] > > So it seems like this would also be a good opportunity to revisit and > > nail down more specifically exactly what our cloud requirements are. > > bcotton suggested

Re: Signing problem again in Rawhide?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/10/19 2:20 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:09:50AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> >> This package was built over 24 hours ago: >> >> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1349103 >> >> but it hasn't appeared in Rawhide yet. > > It seems the pr

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/10/19 4:12 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > Rafal Luzynski wrote: >> 9.08.2019 22:10 Jerry James wrote: >>> Source: https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz >> >> Do we need to change ftp to https? > > That's the wrong question to ask. The right question is: What reason is >

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 8/10/19 4:12 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > > Rafal Luzynski wrote: > >> 9.08.2019 22:10 Jerry James wrote: > >>> Source: https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz > >> > >> Do we need to change ftp to https? > > > > That'

Re: Better interactivity in low-memory situations

2019-08-10 Thread Georg Sauthoff
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 03:50:43PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: [..] > Problem and thesis statement: > Certain workloads, such as building webkitGTK from source, results in > heavy swap usage eventually leading to the system becoming totally > unresponsive. Look into switching from disk based swap, t

Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
Why does it take days sometimes just to start the 7 day timer? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/projec

Re: [Xen-devel] Xen / EC2 release criteria proposal

2019-08-10 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
Sorry for the top posting, "smart" phone... What about Qubes OS? Isn't their dom0 using xen, based on Fedora? Do they use Xen as packaged by Fedora? If not, couldn't they contribute whatever they do that Fedora doesn't here? It might be worth getting in touch with them. They look like a signific

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 13:22, Philip Kovacs via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Why does it take days sometimes just to start the 7 day timer? > Can we have some examples to track this down? Because without that.. no idea and no way to fix. > ___

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
Just look at the updates pending pages.  Here are f30 and f29, resp: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?releases=F30&status=pending https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?releases=F29&status=pending On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 02:29:24 PM EDT, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sa

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 8/10/19 4:12 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > > Rafal Luzynski wrote: > >> 9.08.2019 22:10 Jerry James wrote: > >>> Source: https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz > >> > >> Do we need to change ftp to https? > > > > That's the wrong question to a

RFE: automatically enable rpmlint gating test for packages with a foo.rpmlintrc

2019-08-10 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi All, So what I've been reading from the rawhide gating mailthread, creating the gating rules unfortunately is somewhat convoluted / involved. As such I was wondering if maybe it is an idea to automatically enabled the rpmlint gating test for packages which have a .rpmlint rc. ? Alternatively

Self Introduction: Ege Gunes

2019-08-10 Thread Ege Gunes
Hi, I'm a software developer from Istanbul, Turkey. I want to include some of my open source projects to Fedora and I submitted my first package review[1]. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739816 -- Ege Gunes https://ege.dev/publickey.txt

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/10/19 11:33 AM, Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: > Just look at the updates pending pages.  Here are f30 and f29, resp: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?releases=F30&status=pending > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?releases=F29&status=pending Updates are pushed every single d

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/10/19 12:48 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On 8/10/19 4:12 AM, Björn Persson wrote: >>> Rafal Luzynski wrote: 9.08.2019 22:10 Jerry James wrote: > Source: https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gettext/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz Do we need to change ftp to htt

Need help to review these packages

2019-08-10 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Hello, I need your help to review these Go packages: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&classification=Fedora&component=Package%20Review&email1=zebob.m%40gmail.com&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=substring&list_id=10401033&product=Fedora&query_format=advance

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > Because if we don't, people just gonna ignore FTBFS forever. And this would be a problem why exactly? Packages built for older Fedora releases tend to run on newer Fedora releases just fine. If the package: * has no broken dependencies, and * is not reported as completely b

Re: Package removal for FTBFS: Add automatic orphaning?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > Obviously, we can prevent this by only orphaning packages with NEW bugz, > but that doesn't really solve anything, because lot of the retired > packages were actually ASSIGNED/POST/MODIFIED (for months). Of course they were, to prevent you from retiring them even sooner.

Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, Why we would retire childsplay or gcompris or gdesklets ? IMHO we still haven't a replacement . From [1] I strongly disagree with the text, why all python 2 packages will be removed automatically and why I would have a lot of work if I want keep one package alive . why not the opposite ? .

Re: [Bug 1675390] mingw-wine-gecko: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f30

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > What would you want to do instead? Keep shipping th Fedora 26 package > forever? Since this is actually an MSI blob that is a drop-in replacement for the MSI blob from WINE upstream (where the version number expected by WINE is hardcoded and has not changed for years) and t

Re: Does anybody care about gettext?

2019-08-10 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:28 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Because if we don't, people just gonna ignore FTBFS forever. > > And this would be a problem why exactly? > > Packages built for older Fedora releases tend to run on newer Fedora > releases just fine. If the package:

Re: Package removal for FTBFS: Add automatic orphaning?

2019-08-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 11. 08. 19 0:34, Kevin Kofler wrote: Miro Hrončok wrote: Obviously, we can prevent this by only orphaning packages with NEW bugz, but that doesn't really solve anything, because lot of the retired packages were actually ASSIGNED/POST/MODIFIED (for months). Of course they were, to prevent you

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 11. 08. 19 1:05, Sérgio Basto wrote: Hi, Why we would retire childsplay or gcompris or gdesklets ? IMHO we still haven't a replacement . If the maintainer wants to, they can request an exception for the package to be kept. From [1] I strongly disagree with the text, why all python 2

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > Why we would retire childsplay or gcompris or gdesklets ? IMHO we still > haven't a replacement . > > From [1] I strongly disagree with the text, why all python 2 packages > will be removed automatically and why I would have a lot of work if I > want keep one package alive

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-10 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sun, 2019-08-11 at 01:35 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 11. 08. 19 1:05, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Why we would retire childsplay or gcompris or gdesklets ? IMHO we > > still > > haven't a replacement . > > If the maintainer wants to, they can request an exception for the > package

Re: Package removal for FTBFS: Add automatic orphaning?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote: > If the only reason to set the status to ASSIGNED/POST/MODIFIED is to > prevent **me** from retiring the package, something is fundamentally > broken. This is not about you personally, but about the FTBFS process. :-) > If somebody has a legitimate reason to have a FTBFS pack

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 7:47 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Why we would retire childsplay or gcompris or gdesklets ? IMHO we still > > haven't a replacement . > > > > From [1] I strongly disagree with the text, why all python 2 packages > > will be removed automatically and

Re: Package removal for FTBFS: Add automatic orphaning?

2019-08-10 Thread Christopher
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 7:33 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 11. 08. 19 0:34, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> Obviously, we can prevent this by only orphaning packages with NEW bugz, > >> but that doesn't really solve anything, because lot of the retired > >> packages were actually

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
UTC 00:00:00 has come and gone and nothing was pushed to testing, yet again.   My reference to "7 days" was the time I have to wait until I can request stable.That timer cannot start until the packages hit testing. There really should be more than one guy who happens to be at a conferencetaking

Orphaning cloud-init, python-boto

2019-08-10 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
Hi, My time to work on Fedora cloud-related things has diminished in recent months, so I have not been able to give the cloud-init and python-boto packages the care they deserve. They are free to a good home. Thanks, -- Garrett Holmstrom ___ devel mail

Re: Orphaning cloud-init, python-boto

2019-08-10 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
I'll take python-goto. FAS: limb. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On Aug 10, 2019, 8:06 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > Hi, > > My time to work on Fedora cloud-related things has diminished in > recent months, so I have not been able to give the cloud-init and > pyt

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Maintaining python 2 requires maintaining a *lot* of infrastructure. What kind of infrastructure do you need to maintain a package that is (will be) no longer updated upstream? This takes almost no work. The only thing to do is to backport some security fixes from Pyth

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/10/19 5:34 PM, Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: > UTC 00:00:00 has come and gone and nothing was pushed to testing, yet again. Updates pushes are not instant. You shouldn't expect them all to finish at 00:00:01. They did indeed fire off as expected at 00:00 and finished some hours later, as th

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
> But there's not anything actually wrong anymore?\ >I'm not sure what else you would like me to do here...>kevin Yeah it's all good now -- f30 and f29 are all in testing now.   Thanks for checking.Phil___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Orphaned some (mostly Python) packages

2019-08-10 Thread Elliott Sales de Andrade
Hi Miro, On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 07:21, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > # python-behave > Leaf. > Doesn't build yet with Python 3.8, but a patch exists: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1706085 > > > # python-cligj > python-rasterio and python-fiona depend on that. > I can take this one, sinc

Re: RFE: automatically enable rpmlint gating test for packages with a foo.rpmlintrc

2019-08-10 Thread Dominik Perpeet
Excellent suggestion! In fact, as part of the CI Objective we want to enable more such distribution-wide tests, such as rpminspect [0], installability and reverse dependency testing. The tests that have been run by Fedora QA are also being evaluated and those will be used directly or migrated. At