et date #2" milestone of 31 October. The release schedule[3]
will be updated accordingly soon.
[1] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/39/final/buglist
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else:
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that logic should be safe as long as we don't change the release
process. There is always one "pending" Fedora release - Rawhide. If
there's more than one, there will be two, and the other one will be
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ncies ==
N/A
== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: Everything stays as is.
* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Blocks release? No
== Documentation ==
We'll try to update the documentation and figure out a way to share
more of the content between those variants
support has been added to Bodhi but not
deployed to prod yet, we will probably do that after F39 Final. Then we
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On Mon, 2023-10-16 at 11:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks. If you have a Rawhide update stuck in openQA gating - we're
> aware of the issue. A KDE package was prematurely rebuilt against kf6
> before https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/399 was sorted out, and
>
esolve all kf6 file conflicts and allow
tests to succeed again. If this doesn't work we'll just untag the
offending build (kde-partitionmanager) until the conflicts can be fully
sorted out. Once we have a resolution I will be re-running failed
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== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
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(which is release-blocking) from 700M to 1G. A detailed justification
is in the ticket. If you have passionate opinions on this, please read
the ticket and comment. Thanks :)
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allow installations on drives providing installation
source
This is at -3, +1 in voting currently. Needs more votes. If it happens
to be accepted, anaconda team would have to decide on a fix.
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a big one that still had active discussion ongoing till fairly
recently, and it seems reasonably likely that the sshd socket one won't
be needed once
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/29159#issuecomment-1714205320
lands in Fedora, so we were kind of intentionally leaving it in limbo,
I t
y the
BuildRequires manually based on the text file.
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ere, just like "xy plan
> on this" and such.
The anchor is "whenever someone remembers we have to do it".
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u can omit `-t` so the dependency generator
won't work out the requirements from tox.ini , but then you can't run
the tests during %check unless you specify the requirements manually...
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s was caused by changes to the set of scripts in
kexec-tools between F38 and F39 which have the effect that a
crashkernel= arg will almost always get added whenever a kernel is
installed, or kexec-tools is updated. Previously that was not the case.
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et date #1" milestone of 24 October. The release schedule[2]
will be updated accordingly soon.
[1] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/39/final/buglist
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bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
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er justification, but take a look for yourself. A fix
has been posted as an upstream PR, it would be great if the maintainer
can build an update with it.
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On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 14:17 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:04 AM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2023-10-04 at 12:19 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 11:44 AM Martin Stransky
> > > wrote:
> >
usively
> > used for this broken feature.
> >
> > It would be really great to get the final Fedora 39 iso working again.
> >
>
> An update has been proposed:
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-f71507e281
The bug still needs to be accepted a
ticles/946381/
That doesn't seem to really fit, though. You need to be able to at
least set environment variables and execute processes to exploit that,
right? That hardly covers "all publically reachable servers".
I guess it's the closest candidate, but meh. In any
s %limit_build -m 32768
Thanks for the idea, Kalev. I went ahead and applied this, and builds
for F38 and F39 succeeded. Let's hope it really helps and this wasn't
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Have a good weekend and someone will see you on Monday, I hope!
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https://web.libera.chat/#fedora-meeting - to join.
If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.
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1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 39 status
3. Test Day / community event status
4. Open
a that provides similar functionality? (I've
> looked, but come up empty thus far.)
Could we possibly just vendor the old async stuff into fail2ban for now
to keep it usable until upstream manages to rewrite everything? I agree
that we should really try to avoid this dying, it does seem
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to the changes between the latest 5.9 release that fails to
build, and the earliest 5.10 release you can find that does build, and
look for changes that seem likely related to the build failure. You may
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ng the "Show Beta Downloads" switch, but there doesn't appear to be
> > any way to download the beta for Workstation or IoT.
>
> Odd. It shows fine here.
>
> Caching issue?
Workstation is fine, IoT is not.
I kept trying to ping people to ensure IoT was prepared for B
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ess any issues with it. They
likely already pull new releases of their project downstream as a
matter of course. Automating it doesn't really seem like it's exposing
us to any radical increase in potential licensing problems.
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t; development and it doesn't seems to be a problem.
Sure, it's not a problem *yet*. Microsoft is only just starting to
crank up the enshittification machine...
https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/13/github_alienates_customers_by_force/
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few packages, and it's just a bit messy...
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. Have we always had this clash? I don't recall.
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On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 14:50 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 2:42 PM Colin Walters wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 09:20:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > IIRC
e/f-39/f-39-key-tasks.html
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting
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> Ok, now we are on the same page.
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:04 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2023-09-13 at 16:49 +0200, Tomas Hrcka wrote:
> > > I thought this was exactly the JSON blob we will
s:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016563
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/linux/vd_agent/-/issues/26
not being able to copy from or paste into KDE VMs is extremely
annoying, especially for testing.
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On Wed, 2023-09-13 at 20:07 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > From there, it's up to people where they see and respond to them.
>
> But every single announcement gets a reply on the mailing list (which is not
> properly threaded in KNode/Gm
On Wed, 2023-09-13 at 13:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 12:19:05PM +0200, Sandro wrote:
> > On 13-09-2023 08:09, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > From there, it's up to people where they see and respond to them. If
> > > more people are res
On Wed, 2023-09-13 at 10:46 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 13. 09. 23 v 9:08 Remi Collet napsal(a):
> > Le 13/09/2023 à 08:09, Adam Williamson a écrit :
> > > On Wed, 2023-09-13 at 05:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
&
composes' endpoint use (#1 in my list below). Not
sure if that's your fault or mine, sorry if I left it out of a previous
list.
Does your replacement plan cover the "previous_release" use case, where
we need a list of all the composes for each release in the order they
happened?
. If
more people are responding in discourse than on the mailing list, that
would seem to suggest that there *is* a reason to announce things
there...
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sion. Pulling in
devel@ and the Change owner for comment. Jens, why was this feature not
disclosed in the Change scope?
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ately decided to provide both side-by-side; I think
relvalconsumer is the only thing that actually uses this feature, and
it currently uses the ugly HTML scraping version, not the PDC version.
I probably meant to try and make it use the PDC version but never got
around to it. The ugly version is wor
getting
around to actually doing it, then at Flock I heard rumours that
somebody's interested in picking up Pagure maintenance again,
so...*shrug emoji*
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this would be enough to make 1. not a blocker, or whether we
should still block on 1. because other tools could potentially create
the same situation. Either way, we want blivet devs to fix this,
ideally (vtrefny).
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tomorrow!
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hypothetical, should Fedora
> choose to do so, do you know if RedHat would be
> amenable for such use of issues.redhat.com for
> Fedora bug tracking(*).
I think this would be a non-starter as Jira is not F/OSS. Fedora infra
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> the point?
Yes, and yes. You won't gain anything by explicitly enabling the
updates-testing-modular repo, msuchy could probably drop that from his
test command.
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On Wed, 2023-09-06 at 21:09 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sept 2023 at 19:12, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > This message says you're "thinking of adding Passim", but in point of
> > fact, it appears to have been added to the package set already, and as
of adding'
feature appears to be basically fully implemented already (except for
the service start failing). Was this intentional?
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one-click which says 'I am on a metered
> line' which is supposed to do things like that. I don't see anything like
> that on the Mac but I am only 'learning' it now.
NetworkManager has the same concept, but of course it depends on apps
that use data *caring* about it.
On Mon, 2023-09-04 at 22:26 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
> On Monday, 04 September 2023 at 17:37, Adam Williamson wrote:
> [...]
> > BTW, the email seems kind of weird. There are lots of places where it
> > seems like it's referring to extern
l seems kind of weird. There are lots of places where it
seems like it's referring to external information - "as demonstrated
here", "Previously, we followed this process to update it, but now we
have transitioned to using this method" - but it does not actually link
to
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o-sans-cjk-vf-fonts and google-noto-sans-math-fonts can't be
installed...I have both installed on F39, so they're not just broken...
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> answer questions here or in chat. I am dcantrell on IRC and in Matrix chat.
well, the question is not so much how useful is *this* change, but what
*other* changes does coreutils 9.4 introduce. During Beta freeze, it
would be much safer to just backport this specific change.
This is
llowerasing' means, basically, if a
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could bump to 1.91.0rc1 and backport that PR if they're really keen...
I *think* that's everything in your list.
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the SOP on the wiki:
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when you updated to the post-revert versions. This is by
design, or rather, it's unfortunate but it would be rather icky to try
and 'fix' it, so folks decided not to. You're expected to be able to do
'dnf5 install dnf' if you run Rawhide and want it back.
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> # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
> # Date: 2023-08-21
> # Time: 15:00 UTC
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
> # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat
>
> Greetings testers! Once aga
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> > include: "
> >
> > Does anyone object to these proposed changes? Thanks!
>
>
> I think this is a great improvement over what we had.
So, I just realized I never actually made these changes! I've just done
so now:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?
.2.2.1-5.fc39.i686
wxGTK-webview-0:3.2.2.1-5.fc39.x86_64
xiphos-0:4.2.1-20.fc39.x86_64
yad-0:9.3-6.fc39.x86_64
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but if you really really hate discourse, I guess reply here. :D
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> DNF leaves behind and what not.
>
> BTW I have also asked the mass-prebuild maintainer for help:
>
> https://gitlab.com/fedora/packager-tools/mass-prebuild/-/issues/86
I think only the mass-prebuild maintainer can help you there. dnf5
cannot be set to provide dnf, because
ck, confirm it works, and up-karma the
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is here, but in general, we recommend
against pulling from the Docker registry, as it is not updated very
often. It's much better to pull from registry.fedoraproject.org or
quay.io , as those are updated with every Rawhide compose.
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On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 08:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-08-10 at 10:58 +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > Hello maintainers!
> >
> > Let me announce a new release of Mock v5.0 (the chroot build environment
> > manager for building RPMs).
> >
> &
ke a valid pyproject.toml ).
I'd then put the receptorctl bits - the Python lib and the CLI command
- into a subpackage that requires the main package(s), since it seems
to be essentially an optional bit...
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O: Pulling image: registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:rawhide
ERROR: Command failed:
# podman pull registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:rawhide
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On Fri, 2023-08-04 at 11:42 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > This is a big deal, because even users who don't use modularity at all (but
> > have not uninstalled fedora-repos-modular) will not be able to upgrade to
> > Fedora 39+ without reaching for help.
>
o push the result
reporting one out yet in case it has unexpected consequences, and the
waiverdb one will have to wait on a waiverdb admin to review it. Once
that is fixed, waiving failed tests that have chained dependencies
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that, but it doesn't look good.
For now I'm rebuilding the openQA base images on the new compose and
going to bed, will see how things look in the morning.
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On Mon, 2023-08-07 at 15:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-08-07 at 19:59 +0200, Nicola Sella wrote:
> >
> > 2. If you would rather not use the side-tag OR you are updating after the
> > packages are available in rawhide, you should have no issues. The same t
l not be around at 10:30 UTC, I'll be awake about 1500 UTC I
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he test
system so as not to break tests on all subsequent updates. Also, there
needs to be a PR for fedora-comps to revert the dnf5 migration there
(and anywhere else it happened).
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requirements kick in. So I'm a bit confused as to why you'd
do a mega-update for branched releases but not for Rawhide? What's the
difference?
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see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_IRC_meeting_process
Thanks folks!
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On Fri, 2023-08-04 at 23:43 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
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> Practically speaking, we should be able to just re-run the tests and it
> should come out good. I'll bonk that button now.
Ah, as the failure wasn't a gating one, Bodhi doesn't show the Re-
Trigger Tests
be improved (beyond
making ci-resultsdb-listener use the ERROR outcome, now we have it).
Practically speaking, we should be able to just re-run the tests and it
should come out good. I'll bonk that button now.
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the correction) it doesn't actually cause
immediate issues in real-world cases because of the 'stale' tree that
remains on the official repo location.
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y lasted like one release I think.
IIRC, anyway.
But yes, if you have any modules enabled, the experience is going to be
bad.
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it's now just stale data.
That is the Modular tree from the 20230802.n.0 compose, and unless
someone does something about it, it always *will* be. Keeping the last
set of modular repos frozen in amber forever doesn't seem like the best
permanent situation :)
So this is still an issue, but
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 16:45 -0500, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 08:59:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2023-07-28 at 21:41 -0500, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > As part of the Fedora Asahi SIG
move the logic out of
> nsswitch into a configuration file.
If mdns is the thing that lets me just do 'ssh somehostname.local' to
reach that host on my local network, then yes, I use it. I have no idea
what configuration it should have, except that that should work OOTB,
IMHO.
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, please build it against the side
> tag; we are going to land this next week.
Thanks very much for doing this properly on a side tag!
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h all the
dependencies, and create a single combined update from the side tag
once it's ready. Thanks!
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and get /usr/bin/dnf5
alongside it if you like) is what was the state in Rawhide for several
months before we flipped it so dnf5 provided /usr/bin/dnf , and is
still the state in F38.
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thanks for being honest about the status and
> > realistic about timeframes and needed work. Kudos!
>
> I'd like to second that, these decisions are never easy to take and thank you
> for having the courage of making it.
Me too, thanks to Samantha and the team. There's nothi
st failures, but I'd have to check that). This
would be some fairly major surgery, though (and increase the load on
openQA).
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n here. I only merged and pushed out the firewalld fix to
stable releases because someone mentioned it on Mastodon.
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#x27;s get back on track
tomorrow!
If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.
== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 39 status
3. Flock plans
4. Test Day / community event status
5. Open floor
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