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> Any idea of what is happening?
It doesn't look like you have the RHBZ field set on your account:
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lot of people.
From the previous times the baseline conversation has happened, I
suspect that I am more open to raising it than Kevin is, but I agree
with his general direction here. Absent reliable data, I tend toward a
conservative approach to dropping hardware support.
nance burden. I trust
your judgement on if that's workable at all and for how long. But it
would at least buy us some time so that we don't end up with the
"surprise, you can't use this release on your hardware if you want to
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ith "a key package no longer
works on your hardware". It would be better to explicitly move the
entire distro to a higher baseline than to have some packages work and
some not. (I'm not saying now is the time to make that decision, but
it's clear that we should at least have an idea o
verall this is a huge improvement.
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e, I never checked that when putting the bug
count lists in the Friday's Fedora Facts posts. The first time I did,
there were hundreds of bugs across several EOL releases. :-)
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Since there's not a program manager (or the newly-created operations
architect) in place, you'll probably want to do the deferral paperwork
yourself:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_guide/sop/changes-defer/
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osals. amoloney has done a great job
picking up many of my former duties while also doing her full time
job, but as that sentence implies, there are capacity issues. Of
course, earlier submission is better when possible but I don't know if
it was possible in this case and it's not clear it w
On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 2:03 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
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> Ben Cotton wrote:
> > This will be helpful to people who aren't regularly involved in FESCo
> > votes. If that's you: the proposal presented here is largely
> > clarification. There's
d in
Ticket votes. In a meeting vote, a vote of 0 reduces the denominator
of the fraction required to achieve the 51% majority. In effect, it
says "I am agreeing to vote with the remaining majority, whatever they
decide."
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ge compose, or will they be a
separate compose that will need to be managed independently?
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Fedora Code o
of the blog post, combined with recent actions
> towards Fedora by Red Hat, is that Red Hat now views CentOS Stream as
> the new "Fedora" for basing future versions of RHEL.
Not really. Fedora is the basis for new RHEL major versions (e.g. RHEL
10). CentOS Stream is the next RHEL m
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 9:09 AM Matthew Miller
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> I think this sentiment is getting ahead of things. This thread _is_ that
effort.
Yes, but. In general, a better approach is to say "we plan on orphaning the
packages in $timeframe". Even if $timeframe is a week, it shifts the
perception to "
I'm not necessarily opposed to this, but I'm not sure I'm in favor of
it. It certainly beats a company using a shared account against policy
to allow for multiple maintainers. On the other hand, what are the
practical use cases here? As Kevin and Zbigniew said in
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2929
As a reminder, nominations are open through 10 May. There are
currently four candidates for four open seats.
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 12:43 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
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> Now through 10 May, you may nominate candidates for the Fedora
> Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo).
>
> To no
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[https://sourceforge.net/p/man-pages-ru/discussion/1102373/thread/7dda92a232/
man-pages-l10n upstream discussion with man-pages-ru upstream about
this]
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t a System Wide Change), No
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hrough the kernel defconfig, instead it must be
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The default value of the vm.max_map_count sysctl is increased
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* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Blocks release? No
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N/A (not a System Wide Change)
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Fedora Cloud Edition is now available for use in Microsoft Azure.
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Discussion isn't perfect, but it's better on the whole than I thought
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Currently fedora-release and fedora-repos are in a pre-release state.
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[2] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-38/f-38-key-tasks.html
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time permits? This blocks the implementation of the "Rpmautospec by
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this process exists but it only works if you nominate
bugs. See
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for the kinds of bugs to nominate.
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Podman between 4.4.2 -> 4.4.3 or a different config file in F38. This
does not appear to be specific to the shadow-utils package.
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* Blocks release? No
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N/A (not a System Wide Change)
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EC2 documentation details differences between gp2 and gp3:
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1 — NEW
xdg-desktop-portal-kde is launching and crashing when SDDM launches
the Wayland greeter
When the greeter launches, xdg-desktop-portal-kde also launches and
crashes. This appears to only happen on Wayland.
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n migrated to SPDX identifiers. The remaining
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created.
10. totem — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176726 — NEW
totem crashes everytime when users try to delete a video
Deleting a video results in an application crash, but only when there
is only one video.
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t still require FontAwesome 4.7.0. For packages that
can use the FontAwesome 6.x icons, the changes described in
[https://fontawesome.com/docs/changelog/ the FontAwesome changelog]
are now available. Packages that use the FontAwesome 4.x icons do not
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Based on feedback, the 30-day auto-revocation is being dropped[1]. The
12-month key lifetime will still apply.
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174291
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pkgconf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172406 — ON_QA
Don't depend on system-rpm-config
pkgconf pulls in ~22 new packages as a runtime dependency, which don't
appear to be strictly necessary. FEDORA-2023-766817d642 contains a
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vey prepared that will be opened once the F37
retrospective survey is done. This will give us a basis for evaluating
our requirements as we look for possible replacements.
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suspect it's a
security-driven requirement, so I don't know how much room there will
be for changes. I'll pass this on to the Bugzilla team and see what
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re-enabled on the account's preferences tab.
All existing API keys have had their creation date set to 2023-02-19.
For more details, see the announcement[1].
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st change the default to
not use deltas but still allow people to opt-in to it. Then (assuming
we can track this, which maybe we can't) see how much they're used
before we decide to pull the plug on producing them.
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is the early target date of 14 March.
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* Blocks release? Yes
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== Release Notes ==
Fedora 39 comes with the mingw-gcc-13 and mingw-binutils-2.40.
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> long list for manual processing...
People who were active in Bugzilla will get noticed on the step-two
run and not removed, so I don't think it's necessary to go through and
clean those up now unless you really
and my successors
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ged in (which you
don't necessarily need to do as a packager), then pagure.io would not
know about them. I see that from time to time with Changes tickets to
FESCo.
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another couple of weeks, the "I'm still here!"s will settle down and
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[2] https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/37
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ackagers/issues?tags=inactive_packager&status=Open
[3] https://pagure.io/find-inactive-packagers/issues?tags=feature
[4] https://pagure.io/find-inactive-packagers/new_issue
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-src/oneTBB/releases/tag/v2021.7.0
(Released 2nd October 2022)
* https://github.com/oneapi-src/oneTBB/releases/tag/v2020.3 (Released
10th July 2020)
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KDE crashes on start with mesa-23.0.0~rc3-3.fc38
A recent mesa update caused both GNOME and KDE to crash on start.
Update FEDORA-2023-40b973fa06 fixed GNOME, but KDE is still seeing
this issue. The root cause is still uncertain.
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 5:21 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
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> On 1/31/23 14:00, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >> Proposals that are rejected may be submitted by reconsideration, but they
> >> must go through whatever process was originally required before FESCo
> >> begins
ource code and are architecture
independent.
== Documentation ==
The current draft of the package leaves script
[https://git.sr.ht/~gotmax23/fedora-scripts/tree/main/item/go-sig/go_leaves.py
is available].
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Remove unused Golang libraries from the repositories.
These packages
r formal approval.
[1]
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-01-10/fesco.2023-01-10-17.00.html
[2] https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/71
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Rawhide begins development of F39.
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[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/schedule/issue/91#comment-838492
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pendencies ==
== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: (What to do? Who will do it?) revert the
update and bump epoch
* Contingency deadline: beta freeze
* Blocks release? No
== Documentation ==
https://github.com/pypa/packaging/blob/main/CHANGELOG.rst
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echanism: Postpone to the next release.
* Contingency deadline: Beta freeze.
* Blocks release? No.
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No documentation.
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e the beta freeze. -->
* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)
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OpenPrinting News
[https://openprinting.github.io/cups-filters-Second-Generation-First-Beta-Release/
article]
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Known issues]
== Release Notes ==
Driverless USB printing/scanning/fax support is present by default
with printing and scanning packages, providing the support for devices
capable of using IPP-over-USB. The manual intervention is required
after upgrade, which is desc
One thing I don't see addressed here is how this would impact the release
criteria. Would it? If so, now's the time to start coordinating with the QA
team to make those changes.
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unfiltered Flathub. It's a filtered view, manually curated. See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications
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//docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
There are no nominated prioritized bugs, so I'm cancelling this week's
meeting. I follow up with the currently accepted bugs out of band. The
next meeting is scheduled for 25 January.
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(For the sake of posterity, let's keep further discussion on that thread)
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thub remote now exposes all content from Flathub,
instead of only a small subset. Flathub is not enabled by default. To
enable software from Flathub, turn on third-party software in GNOME
Initial Setup or GNOME Software.
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by default -
google-noto-sans-cjk-fonts and google-noto-serif-cjk-fonts
* Contingency deadline: N/A
* Blocks release? N/A
== Documentation ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)
== Release Notes ==
This new variable fonts will reduce the disk space usage and live image size.
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2, but TeX will attempt to use
older cache directories if they exist.
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vert to an old version of `fpc.spec`
and rebuild the package.
== Documentation ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)
== Release Notes ==
The `fpc` package no longer includes the terminal-based TUI IDE. Users
interested in the IDE should install the `fpc-ide` package.
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notes will be sent to the developer mailing list:
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languages.
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cumentation.
* Contingency mechanism: Revert changes to documentation by reverting
the appropriate commits. This can be done easily by FPC.
* Contingency deadline: Any time.
* Blocks release? No.
== Documentation ==
This page and any changes to Packaging Guidelines and other documents.
== Rele
://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linux-37-election-results/
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