Re: unaccessability

2013-11-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote: Hi, The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application level and not a package level. The current way it determines if something is an application is by looking for a .desktop file. So in theory you

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 14:10:19 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: Well, a Shell Function would be more readable, for example. It would accept normal arguments to fill in variables -- instead of global RPM macros, which are substituted in the entire spec file. Uhm, how can one this be done? Shell

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 13:04:39 +, Richard Hughes wrote: $ file screenshot-soundconverter.png screenshot-soundconverter.png: PNG image data, 502 x 534, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced ScreenshotSizeWidthMin=624 ScreenshotSizeHeightMin=351 503 is smaller than 624 and the screenshot

Re: rpm macro magic help

2013-11-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:40:46 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: On 02.11.2013 18:18, Kevin Kofler wrote: Hi, Sandro Mani wrote: %define do_build() \ mkdir build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ (cd build_win%{1}_%{2}; \ %{mingw%{1}_qmake_%{2}} 'PREFIX=%{mingw%{1}_prefix}' 'TARGET=quazip-%{2}'

AppData questions

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
I'm trying to follow what's happening related to gnome-software and the .appdata.xml files. There is a growing number of mails, but I cannot find any message that points out what the file # rpm -qf /usr/share/app-info/xmls/fedora-20.xml.gz gnome-software-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64 does. For

Re: Retiring stratagus

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 08:41:12 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 17:30:48 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! I'm removing myself from the stratagus maintainers. It has two co-maintainers but afaik automatic package re-assignment to a new maintainer never worked. So

Re: AppData questions

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 19:43:25 +, Richard Hughes wrote: What is the recommended procedure to test new .appdata.xml files? Install them to /usr/share/appdata/ -- i've not tested this with Fedora 20, but I know it works if you're using the rawhide package. Yes, with Rawhide it works and

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:09:28 +0100, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: If anyone feels like adding an option to rpmdev-bumpspec, that one could attempt at cleaning up Release tags -- but note that even least-significant stuff right of the dist tag could be wanted by the package owner(s), so simply

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
This is what I've done [1] for a package to handle the epel '0.' prefix mentioned in the guidelines. Where to find that in the guidelines? Such a prefix sounds questionable and is news to me (not being an EPEL dev). Ah, probably this special exception:

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:41:17 +0100, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: The linked spec is an example where rpmdev-bumpspec does _not_ know what to do because of the %rhel macro in the Release tag. As a result, the tag will be bumped at the very right side only. I've tested it yesterday and the

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:31:00 +0100, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: Now I'm in doubt, I'll double check that this evening. Also, do we want diverging releases for sub-packages ? There may be use-cases. A second Release tag in the spec file redefines %{release} for the remainder of the spec file, so

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:42:00 +0100, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: I only did a search of BAD use of %{dist} and NO %{dist} tag. But there is a lot of rubbish: alpha9.2.fc21 02.6.fc21 0.alpha3.fc21 0.fc20 0.fc21 Starting with 0 instead of 1 is a harmless mistake some packagers do also during

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:39:38 +0100, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: BAD use of %{dist} tag(75): == afpfs-ng-0.8.1-13.fc21.3.src.rpm 13.fc21.3 [and many similar examples] NOTABUG:

Re: bad use of Dist Tag in some packages of rawhide

2013-11-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 22:11:19 +0100, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:39:38 +0100, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: _rawhide_ is not an *old branch* . And it never was. To have {?dist}.X in rawhide should be impossible. It breaks the laws of thermodynamics!! It looks

Re: Status of packages buffer mindi mindi-busybox mondo

2013-11-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
An update here, since Bruno has also replied but is not subscribed to devel@. I've had a look at some of the packages, found a few issues and added comments in bugzilla. * Busybox (and mindi-busybox) contain another bundled MD5 implementation originally by Ulrich Drepper. * buffer has been

Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:12:41 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download the openssl packages for both archs from koji and doing a yum

Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:56:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download the openssl packages for both archs from koji and doing a yum

Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:29:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Why did you have openssl.i686 installed on x86_64 to begin with? You have messed up your installation. :-( Have you use rpm -Uvh instead of rpm -Fvh? Or why have you installed openssl.i686? the machine has a long history Well,

Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:10:02 + (UTC), Andre Robatino wrote: In F16, when I had 32-bit packages (namely Skype and Fedora's wine) installed, I had both openssl.i686 and openssl.x86_64 installed, so Indeed. Up to F17, but not anymore since F18:

Re: PATH has /bin before /usr/bin in upgraded rawhide

2013-10-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 15:43:44 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: In which places have you searched already? $HOME/.bashrc $HOME/.bash_profile /etc/bashrc /etc/profile /etc/profile.d/* Is it the same for a fresh user account? Is it the same for root? Logging in from a VT as root resp. newly

$HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
/home/sandro/.local/bin in the PATH is not the default. Or is it new for Rawhide? $ grep PATH /etc/skel/.bash_profile PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin export PATH Exists for a longer time already, added in of the .fc16 builds: * Tue Jun 07 2011 Roman Rakus … - 4.2.10-3 - Added

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:44:23 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Deja vú: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-July/154896.html Hah! A thread of doom. [...] Does any software store files into $HOME/.local/bin/ yet? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:00:54 -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote: Does any software store files into $HOME/.local/bin/ yet? Yes. pip install --user some python package The pip user scheme is to use ~/.local as an FHS-ish thing. IMO, this is much superior to the cabal, gem, etc. notion that

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 01:54:44 + (UTC), Ben Boeckel wrote: Well, there is FE-NEEDSPONSOR. Could we add a checkbox to this page[1] for needing a sponsor? A new packager might not know about FE-NEEDSPONSOR and getting it right up front would help, I'd think.

Re: PATH has /bin before /usr/bin in upgraded rawhide

2013-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 02:00:17 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: your first post is unclear because you speak about two setups to get rid of all this UsrMove fragments make a strict config Ah yes, I could have expressed it better. My problem is the following: [sandro@oldrawhide]$ echo $PATH

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 13:43:57 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: Or, email not all FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets but only those which are deemed too old to be OK. When would that be? A recurring problem in the review queue is long response time. That is, it takes several weeks (or even longer) till the

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:23:22 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: [...] my idea was just that some kind of reminder if no-one takes the ball , however that is defined (comment from sponsor, assigned to sponsor, ...) within some time. That wouldn't be helpful. There would only be a notification about

Status of packages buffer mindi mindi-busybox mondo

2013-10-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
Account System, user bcornec is not a member of the packager group anymore. What has happened there? 4) In the review queue, the review requests have been submitted using three different e-mail addresses. What's the status/plan with regard to these package review requests? Regards, -- Michael

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:23:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: The intended usage of test list has always been a problem. Once in a while, somebody points that out, but there's nobody (no leadership) to work on a change actively

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:17:14 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would think that if we are in a situation where people who do development don't subscribe to the devel list because of 'energy' reasons (disillusionment, feelings of either a) pointlessness b) fait-accompli, etc.), then just moving

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:40:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Ever since I've joined, which is ohgod nearly five years ago now, the split has seemed reasonably clear and non-controversial, and I really can't recall anyone being particularly confused about it, so perhaps this is a problem which

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; Unlike devel, the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? Could you imagine turning devel into a less general list? Is devel the catch-all for anything

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:02:44 -0600, Pete Travis wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:54:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I'm sure the docs team talks about stuff in Rawhide occasionally too; Unlike devel, the docs list is related to Documentation only, isn't it? Could you imagine turning

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:01:18 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: Errr... I just hope if a packager is also its upstream, we can sponsor him quickly as well. Well, people are different, and it may not always happen quickly, if the package suffers from issues and/or the Fedora specific stuff

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
See an example of mindi-busybox, packager from HP still can't get sponsored after 5 years. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476234 It has had fedora-review flag set to '?', which means somebody is working on it. I've cleaned up the tickets and their dependencies. Several

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:11:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Several have not been displayed in the review queue, none has been displayed on the needsponsor list, and Bruno uses three different submitter email addresses in bugzilla. Me Bruno? No, another Bruno, previously referred to as

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:59:28 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 10/21/2013 09:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: * Oldest request is from 2008(!) - but there are recent work on this BZ. Probably the same reasons as with the normal review requests. Sometimes reviews have stalled because

Re: --Wl, -z, relro in LDFLAGS required?/Inconsistency when not using %configure

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:26:18 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: In many cases the values aren't picked up from the environment but need to be passed in by other means (such as arguments to make etc). Okay. make -e … could be run in that case as a work-around. But overriding Makefile variables

Re: --Wl, -z, relro in LDFLAGS required?/Inconsistency when not using %configure

2013-10-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:06:33 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: IMHO adding precaution cruft like [ -f configure ] exit -1 [...] is a sign of the packager doing package updates too carelessly if (s)he doesn't even trust oneself or others to check if the upstream build system has changed between

Re: --Wl, -z, relro in LDFLAGS required?/Inconsistency when not using %configure

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:01:15 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Till Maas wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines?rd=Packaging/Guidelines#Compiler_flags mentions only %optflags to be required for packages but I noticed that %configure sets LDFLAGS to a value different than

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:52:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: A few years ago we've been much better at talking about things and coming to a conclusion. Nowadays I have the feeling the community is fragmented too much. With some people avoiding mailing-lists like the plague, some people

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:23:29 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: The intended usage of test list has always been a problem. Once in a while, somebody points that out, but there's nobody (no leadership) to work on a change actively. Is it only for Test releases or also for Rawhide? Its

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:07:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: As a first step, I suggest clearing up the intended usage of devel list. There's too much traffic on that list. 792 messages so far in October. This is way down from the peak 5-7 years ago. What is the reason? More people avoiding

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:16:53 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/21/2013 06:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:52:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: A few years ago we've been much better at talking about things and coming to a conclusion. Nowadays I have the feeling

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:57:06 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I am not saying shut-up but I am saying that I am confused by what you mean. First you seem to advocate more lists, That could be a misunderstanding. Have I've phrased something very poorly. Then please tell and give me a chance

Re: communications and community [was Re: Lack of response about sponsorship]

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:47:12 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/21/2013 05:44 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: According to some in the QA community ( at least in the past ) any GA release test topic ( like update testing ) belongs on the user list.

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:02:57 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 10/17/2013 05:19 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: I understand each one of us is busy with their life but a simple message would suffice to let know about the status. Is there a better way to address this concern to avoid repeating

Re: Interested in co-maintaining acpi

2013-10-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
comment on all the open bug reports for it for a very long time, unfortunately. http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/acpi The non-responsive maintainer procedure has been started and interrupted before, this year in May: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/963890 That's not good. -- Michael Schwendt Fedora

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 16:22:58 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:31:49 -0600 Ken Dreyer wrote: If this really is the consensus of the Fedora community, then I would prefer that the guidelines on the wiki be specifically amended to require this. IMHO the language in the

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:19:11 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Hello developers and packagers, I recently received an email from the reporter[1] from rhbz #913289. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=913289 related to the sponsorship. The review was done. One of sponsors promised

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 01:50:34 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: I know that, but I haven't permissions sergiomb does not have commit access to azureus we need o provenpackager and the question is more how request a Bodhi update to a provenpackager ? First find out _why_ those builds

Re: Lack of response about sponsorship

2013-10-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:56:00 +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: LOL ^_^ I have 7 review requests , 5 of them ready , but no sponsors !!! Not true. You've had feedback from a sponsor already, but they are not marked as such in bugzilla, so you don't know that it is a potential sponsor for you.

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-10-17 16:00 UTC)

2013-10-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:43:21 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: #topic https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/336 Please clarify the General Naming Guidelines for packages #info Use lowercase and turn underscores into dashes unless there's a compelling reason to follow a different upstream

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-10-17 16:00 UTC)

2013-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:13:45 -0400, James Antill wrote: If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that

Re: some people let packages in f20-updates-candidate

2013-10-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:12:11 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Qua, 2013-10-16 at 23:57 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 08:59:17PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: But since humans fail there , who or how can create Bodhi updates for them ? The easies way to create an

Re: ABRT is filling private bugs

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:33:06 +0200, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: Hi, as some of you already noticed ABRT started filling a private bugs which are only readable by reporter and assigned developer. This is an unfortunate UX design together with [1][2]. Fixing those two bugzillas should help, but

Re: ABRT is filling private bugs

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:09:23 +0200, I wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1017695 Visited http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/mc and noticed several tickets at the bottom are private, too. This is a step into a wrong direction. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I now see ... the version in f19 was greater than that in f20+rawhide, for whatever reasons. Actually, I wonder why AutoQA did not complain. There are no AutoQA comments in that bodhi ticket at all. Almost as if AutoQA has not been

AutoQA ??? (was: Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20)

2013-10-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I now see ... the version in f19 was greater than that in f20+rawhide, for whatever reasons. Actually, I wonder why AutoQA did not complain

Re: How to exclude and arch for a noarch package?

2013-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:44:38 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: [...] But I thought there were issues with doing exclude arch for a noarch package. It's an ugly work-around. noarch = no particular arch = any arch. Hence not publishing a noarch package for some arch is questionable. Unlike ordinary

Re: Unresponsive maintainer - Steven Pritchard

2013-10-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:41:48 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: On 01/10/13 10:27, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote: Hello, I'm trying to contact to Steven Pritchard, maintainer of amavisd-new, FAS user: steve Anyone knows anything about him? There are bugs open without response for years:

Re: Hello! Also, packaging baresip for Fedora

2013-09-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:38:25 -0400, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: [...] what the upstream Makefile currently produces. I wasn't sure how invasive I should be in terms of patching the upstream build process. The build output is silent using '@' command invocations in the Makefile. Patching that

Re: Hello! Also, packaging baresip for Fedora

2013-09-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:35:33 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday 29 September 2013 21:22:24 Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: I went ahead and generated a patch to the Makefile that uses the package version for the library version. That's wrong, as library versions represent API/ABI changes

Re: The final push for the application installer in Fedora 20

2013-09-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:24:45 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: In GNOME Software, we show a list of applications for each category that we think are frikin’ awesome. Some have AppData[1], and some don’t. For the ones that don’t yet have AppData it leaves the responsibility of writing the long

Re: Hello! Also, packaging baresip for Fedora

2013-09-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:59:43 -0400, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Hello everyone, I've just submitted my first package review request to Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013363), which is for libre (http://www.creytiv.com/re.html). This is a dependency for baresip

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:11:12 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006954 The problem is that many (most?) programs won't handle this well. For example, how does mc handle having its perl scripts installed but non-functional? The missing extfs.d script

Re: Ananconda

2013-09-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:12:41 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hi, all. I was wondering as to why Ananconda has no facility to overwrite a distro already present on the target machine. I've studied it apart from destroying the existing partition with GParted there seems to be no other way

Re: Package name conflict with retired package

2013-09-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:51:28 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: On 13.09.2013 11:48, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:54:49 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:40 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: I just posted a review for avl (the Aerodynamic and flight-dynamic analysis

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-09-19 16:00 UTC)

2013-09-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:07:08 -0400, James Antill wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-09-19 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at:

Re: ibus-typing-booster Obsoletes failure

2013-09-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:51:41 +0200, Mike FABIAN wrote: What is going on in package ibus-typing-booster? http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ibus-typing-booster.git/plain/ibus-typing-booster.spec It attempts at obsoleting various packages, but since it does that with a specific dist tag

Re: Full subpackage (-n type) with different version from main package

2013-09-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:09:21 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: Have you tried to tweak the %setup macro with the -n option ? Yes, I have to because the source name doesn't match the package name anymore... %setup -q -n %{srcname}-%{version} where srcname is defines at tqsl I could

Re: Full subpackage (-n type) with different version from main package

2013-09-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:04:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: It could be that you're only confused about what %setup does. You really just need to tell it which build directory to enter, and that builddir will be entered automatically for the rest of the %prep, %build, %install and %check

Re: Full subpackage (-n type) with different version from main package

2013-09-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:07:58 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: Ok, apparently I've been unintentionally obtuse... The problem isn't (directly) with %setup. I know how to do that. The problem is when you have a (-n type) subpackage that is of a different version from the main source. Maximum

Re: Package name conflict with retired package

2013-09-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:54:49 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: On 09/12/2013 10:40 PM, Sandro Mani wrote: I just posted a review for avl (the Aerodynamic and flight-dynamic analysis of rigid aircrafts package) [1], and the reviewer noticed that it conflicts with the retired avl package (the

ibus-typing-booster Obsoletes failure

2013-09-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
What is going on in package ibus-typing-booster? http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ibus-typing-booster.git/plain/ibus-typing-booster.spec It attempts at obsoleting various packages, but since it does that with a specific dist tag and without retiring those packages, it fails entirely, because

Re: php-gettext

2013-09-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
What's the full story here? php-gettext php-gettext-0:1.0.11-5.fc20.noarch isn't obsoleted php-gettext-0:1.0.11-4.fc19.noarch isn't obsoleted php-gettext-0:1.0.11-3.fc18.noarch isn't obsoleted php-gettext-0:1.0.9-3.fc15.noarch is oldest php-gettext 0:1.0.11-3

Re: separation emacs-common into more packages

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:54:47 +0200, Petr Hracek wrote: Hi folks, I would like to separate emacs-common into more packages (in rawhide currently). emacs-common contains all lisp files, info and man pages Do you think that it is a good idea to separate them into groups like emacs-org

Re: Retiring libeio

2013-09-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 18:03:48 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: I adopted libeio back when Node.js still bundled it to aid in the unbundling effort, but upstream fixed the bundling problem here by no longer using libeio for anything. That explains a bit more! libeio is bundled within

Re: *please* unpush firefox-23.0.1-4.fc18 from updates-testing

2013-09-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 17:32:55 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 12:11:05PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: no idea why the FF maintainer does not try to install his own package for days or at least replace it with a clean build

Re: rpmbuild --buildarch equivalent?

2013-09-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:49:01 +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote: Hi, A long time ago rpmbuild used to have an option --buildarch to override the arch detection. What is its equivalent nowadays? Sorry, couldn't figure it out so far. --target=x86_64 Hmm... That builds a package for

Re: HEADS UP - libcue soname bump in Fedora 20/21.

2013-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 20:11:12 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! I'm going to update libcue up to 1.4.0 from current 1.3.0, with soname bump. The following packages are affected by this upgrade: * audacious-plugins-0:3.4-0.6.beta1.fc19.x86_64 Wherever you've run that query, this is an

Re: Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:04:23 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I've highlighted the %{?dist} tag issue. see if this is better now: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FReplacing_Existing_Packages Any change like that could help. :) Thanks for the effort! -- devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:57:18 +0200, 80 wrote: By mere curiosity, why didn't we follow the usual renaming process (and avoid losing the previous history in git) ? It was just an upstream rename due to a trademark issue. The rename process may have been followed, but the renamed packages have

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Packages depending on retired packages

2013-08-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:52:25 +0200, Till Maas wrote: I guess you won't get responses to packages that are orphaned, because then the bug report is assigned to the orphan user. Only few were orphaned when filing the bugs. I just didn't think about using the pkgdb API to fetch the list. Dead

Dear Fedora Packagers!

2013-08-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
for your interest. It is a reoccuring problem that both the rename request submitter *and* the reviewer get the Obsoletes tags wrong. -- Michael Schwendt Fedora release 20 (Null) - Linux 3.11.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc20.x86_64 loadavg: 0.36 0.21 0.15 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Blocking unblocked retired packages

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:20:36 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: I don't know what happened with libgssglue. This was retired for what reason? It affects too many... http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/libgssglue.git/plain/dead.package is not helpful and only tells Obsolete package, but that

Re: Blocking unblocked retired packages

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:30:00 +0200, Till Maas wrote: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/libgssglue.git/plain/dead.package is not helpful and only tells Obsolete package, but that doesn't seem to refer to RPM Obsoletes: $ repoquery --whatobsoletes libgssglue $

libgssapi libgssglue / Re: Blocking unblocked retired packages

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 16:46:23 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: I want to know the reason, why he retired it. Well, the dead.package file is supposed to tell, but in this case it's only ambiguous. If there is a new package, which will replace it? A _replacement_ would need to follow the

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:35:40 -0500, inode0 wrote: [...] This was just an announcement of the vote and look where it has gone. It was the missing announcement that made me start this thread, after I had learnt late about the almost ended election in the German Fedora forum and nowhere else. I

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:39:40 +0200, Tomas Radej wrote: Hi, On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:23:39 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: snip I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if it's an option, and in particular if the marketing includes to the effect of: Fedora

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:04:54 -0500, inode0 wrote: [...] so why do we have to keep going over this? Dunno whether we _have_ to. The original purpose of this thread has been a different one. -- Fedora release 20 (Null) - Linux 3.11.0-0.rc6.git1.2.fc20.x86_64 loadavg: 0.08 0.09 0.07 -- devel

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind of input. Also, these test reveals some

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:10:12 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: Funny! I'm interested in hearing more about these, | 347 CheckStaticLibs |Static libs not in a -static package. Most are haskell packages |which have an exception not handled by f-r. There are more,

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: The overall results with some comments are at http://ur1.ca/f5xxw . The CheckSoFiles results might be .so plug-in libs (extension modules), which are stored in private paths, i.e. outside run-time linker's search. Or even non-versioned

F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 Is this thing for real? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59. Where has it been announced this time? There's nothing in the archives for announce and devel-announce list. -- devel mailing list

fipscheck openssl / Re: Obsoletes, Obsoletes, Obsoletes

2013-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:57:38 +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: I have openssl and fipscheck obsoletes on the list. They were added because the base openssl (and fipscheck) package was split into openssl-libs and openssl subpackages where only the openssl-libs is needed unless something requires the

php-gettext

2013-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
What's the full story here? php-gettext php-gettext-0:1.0.11-5.fc20.noarch isn't obsoleted php-gettext-0:1.0.11-4.fc19.noarch isn't obsoleted php-gettext-0:1.0.11-3.fc18.noarch isn't obsoleted php-gettext-0:1.0.9-3.fc15.noarch is oldest php-gettext 0:1.0.11-3 obsoleted

python-django insufficient Obsoletes

2013-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
The Obsoletes tag for these python-django-foo renames is not high enough. A systematical error due to not considering the dist tag. django-extra-form-fields django-extra-form-fields-0:0.0.1-2.fc17.noarch isn't obsoleted django-extra-form-fields-0:0.0.1-1.fc16.noarch is oldest

An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
I've split out the code that performs this check (based on an idea like old RepoPrune), added a brute-force check for dead.package files (via http and cgit), and the current working-copy is this: http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/obscheck-remote.py Output for Rawhide: Dead and all builds

Re: Mass Rebuild botched up my EVR

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:01:03 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: I just noticed the mass rebuild on Aug 3 botched up my EVR for libreswan: Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}.1 The trailing .1 is valid, at least:

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