With all its ugliness, comps groups have another important feature -- localized
*names* and *descriptions*.
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Real programmers confuse halloween and christmas be
over home directory
with "magical" effects, but I wonder if anyone is aware of existing
system users which carry more complex semantics.
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Pr
the effort to expose an important storage stack.
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But it does move!
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need.
However, the model shows how very different packages can use a common
framework for basic configuration, just like RPM shows how very
different packages can use a common framework for installation.
Having such a framework would allow a *standa
details (item names and types).
Other ideas?
> > * The debconf "API" allows fetching any option from the database
> > and the values of these options are used to configure the actual
> > software.
> >
>
> See above for the sync problem with this.
gistered local port number (similar to netfilter).
OTOH, do we want *more* parsing code inside the kernel? (probably not).
Oh well, we can't fix it all -- httpd is the "kernel" for web-applications
with all the trust, resource allocation and management issues that goes
with it.
ith tcpwrappers isn't important at all.
* However, *some* optional socket control/limits in .socket file
would go a long way.
* If this happens to be implemented in a small library with sane API,
it may even contribute to the direct replacement of tcpwrappers
in other network
e caller.
* From pid you can find the real executable (/proc/pid/cmd).
Oh, and btw, when the client closes the connection (e.g: when it terminates)
we should close the requested ports so we don't leave unused ports open for
future malicious apps.
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On Thursday 12 September 2013 09:23:13 Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 10:01 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > * From pid you can find the real executable (/proc/pid/cmd).
>
> And this is the step that's worthless:
>
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?i
On Friday 13 September 2013 01:51:00 drago01 wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Oron Peled wrote:
> >- This means that any privileged service controlled by GUI client (e.g:
> > NetworkManager) is still only as secure as it's controller (e.g:
> > n
- which means we assume each
of them breaks ABI compatibility :-(
(since currently, this library has only one client, it shouldn't
be too painful).
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eas are just stupid and I don't understand anything about MM.
B. Or they are OK, but MM people cannot be expected to implement any
random nice idea suggested by "someone on the Internet"...
If it's B. -- please let me know and I'll try to see if I can prototype
something
nterface
names, modifying them seems reasonable. The advantage is that
it allows the use the traditional names for the most common cases
(e.g: a laptop with one eth0 and one wlan0) while still providing a
predictable naming to be used when needed.
Now, what do my .signature try to tell me?
ut driver issues with new hardware.
* Please ignore if you think the Fedora case is very specific to the
software versions in Fedora.
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Problems cannot be
warn server people [/etc/issue?])
* BTW: hits on the above link would give us *some* measurement about people
having problems/investigating this.
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"A s
to handle problematic use-cases.
So at that stage, we may ship DNSSEC as "fail-bad-DNS-servers-by-default".
Make sense?
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The most exciting phrase to he
On Friday 11 December 2015 09:09:28 Paul Wouters wrote:
> On 12/09/2015 06:02 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
> > Why don't we plan this feature in two stages:
> > * Fedora 24: turn it on by default, but *keep using results* from bad DNS
> > servers,
> >just issue a use
On Monday 14 December 2015 09:34:56 Paul Wouters wrote:
> On 12/12/2015 09:11 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
> > Still, IMO, the goal to warn users can be achieved quite easily. Two
> > examples from the top of my head.
> > 1. log + notify:
> >* The information may be log
whole root password thingie...
This would save us at least 3 widgets (two text fields and a "done" button),
with all their layout, translation and all that kind of stuff.
OK, so that last one was a bad joke, just like exposing typed passwords...
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- Because it's very common.
- Because I don't want by-standers to be able to grasp it from
looking at my fingers.
* You never expect the Spanish Inquisition will make such a UI change ;-)
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irst to fedora-devel and *than* to Fesco.
(and I'm still repeating my previous question in this thread --
are any security related people involved? Or do we assume their
opinion on the subject matter isn't relevant)
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d environments of different OS.
* However, one of the most useful features -- snapshots via LVM -- is not
usable in Fedora due to rhbz#600636
* That bug-report is stalled since 2010, and exactly a year passed since
I sent a tested patch...
OK, back to work now.
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ting for maintainer, he would try to finish it this weekend
- debhelper, ready (IMO), reviewer is silent for ages -- can you take it?
how?
- pbuilder, working package, need cleanup (me), after the 3 pre-requisites
are ready it would be justified to bother th
e home directory (CREATE_HOME) -- yes
So all that is left is to "passwd foobar", but that is routine to any Linux
user even
during normal life-cycle.
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wing similar logic for rpm we could have in the spec file:
Name: acme
Requires: foo, foo-utils
InstallDefault: bar, perl-bar, python-bar
InstallOptional: baz, baz-ldap
Now it would be classic to use "--with/--without" as command line flags,
but it's already taken :-(
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foo-devel was built on an arm
machine (native compilation) or on x86 with a cross-compiler -- in both
cases the resulting library files would be on /usr/lib/arm-unknown-linux
* This means cross-toolchains becomes first class citizens.
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On Monday 27 May 2013 18:17:19 Sérgio Basto wrote:
> I try
> fedpkg switch-branch f19
> git rebase master
Git rule #1 -- NEVER rebase a public branch (use "git merge")
[because rebasing rewrites history]
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re's no need to convert input format in order to have your preferred
presentation.
For example, in konqueror you can simply type the "info:/" URI and browse the
info
documentation with proper fonts, highlighting and links.
(IIRC, the GNOME help browser had similar functionality)
-
On Friday 14 June 2013 17:45:51 Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Dom, 2013-06-09 at 13:02 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > As soon as dpkg-1.16.x hits f18.
>
> dpkg-1.16.10-4.fc18 hits f18 (status stable)
> Now alien is waiting for debhelper
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/debh
ll supported,
most modern packages correctly renamed them to "configure.ac").
In the Fedora spirit of "everything buildable from clean sources", I think
the "autoreconf" solution should be globally adopted (regardless of aarch64):
* It doesn't
hould be weighted by the package maintainer against other tasks
which may be more urgent/important.
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"Without the wind, the grass does not move.
Without soft
oot alias to /etc/aliases would be
another improvement.
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"It's almost like we're doing Windows users a favor by charging them money
t @core, I disagree about default (desktop/server) installs.
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Linux lasts longer!
-- "Kim J. Brand"
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they don't have permissions to read logs).
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On Monday 22 July 2013 20:33:32 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sun, 21.07.13 01:50, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote:
> > OK, I won't count mailx and mutt because we talk about different audience,
> > should we open bug-reports for the rest? (kmail? evolution?)
>
less DoS traps are OK for non-default installed packages...)
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On Monday 22 July 2013 20:18:04 Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:14:32AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > BTW: nobody ever answered how desktop users are supposed to read the
> >
> > output of their cron-jobs (they don't have permissions to rea
On Tuesday 23 July 2013 02:34:25 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 23.07.13 03:14, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote:
> > BTW: nobody ever answered how desktop users are supposed to read the
> > output of their cron-jobs (they don't have permissions to read logs).
On Wednesday 24 July 2013 13:23:08 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 23.07.13 04:03, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote:
> > There are two issues however:
> > * The log-splitting of journald is really nice feature. But it doesn't
> >work for cron:
> >
t a default*.
(less people some system outputs are "lost" [tongue in the cheek])
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... It's like a Windows.. litle blow and it cras
On Saturday 27 July 2013 18:36:23 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 01:12:25PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > On the other hand, aliasing root to the installing user in /etc/aliases
> > is trivial and adding the local spool mailbox as a default to MUA's
> &
On Sunday 28 July 2013 08:01:25 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 09:56:16AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > 1. By the same logic we can ship just a browser, why bother building
> >LibreOffice if many use just google-docs?
> Because not everyone uses Googl
ther with
Very good example, it's called "batteries included".
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move old RPM's from caches
(by time-stamp).
As said, this isn't directly yum/dnf issue, but your are the people that can
think of the missing pieces (some yum/dnf proxy -- that maps url's
across mirrorlist -- so the same RPM's is a proxy hit, regardless of
which exact mir
lists.debian.org/debian-ssh/2014/03/msg00024.html]
So another small benefit is increased uniformity in Linux and less surprises
for new admins.
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"A standard f
the other RR can be orphaned
(can they?), than we'll just need a brave reviewer to work with me on
these packages in correct dependency order.
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Reality must
On Monday, 26 בMarch 2012 11:32:10 Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:57:44AM +0200, Oron Peled wrote:
> >- This means that a Debian/Ubuntu workstation can build both .deb
> > and RPM packages, and we cannot use Fedora for a similar role.
>
>
process.
So, will I get this hot-potato?
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p RPMs or
> repositories where part of them grows to be 25x larger.
I may be wrong, but I think 25x number of nodes in the
dependency graph would kill us faster than the size of RPM/yum
metadata.
Can our SAT-solvers handle this increase at all?
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be persuaded to generate firewalld
commands/config instead of low-level iptables config.
- As an example fwbuilder already has plugins to generate rules for
several engines (iptables, ipfilter, cisco, etc.) in some futuristic
pipe-dream it may have a firewalld plugin.
Cheers
pstream"
code from packager changes:
- Maybe the solution is to map this information from the vcs.
E.g:
Vcs-URL-upstream: git://server/path master
Vcs-URL-build:git://server/path fc17
Now, is this a science fiction?
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ndows/PPC
that lived a very short life).
So far, MS failed misserably in the cellular space so there's a good
chance their exclusionary move on ARM will only help convince vendors
that shipping Androids (and by extension other Linuces) is safer bet.
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On Saturday, 9 בJune 2012 00:47:30 Richard Vickery wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 8 בJune 2012 20:07:20 Gerry Reno wrote:
> > > On 06/08/2012 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > That is only assuming that Windows
gy to handle each of them.
Thanks (maybe it's all taken care for, and I simply missed it in
the feature page...)
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But it does move!
es you've done installations for in the past, so it acts
> consistently on future installs.
Which begs for:
yum langlist
yum langlist installed
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If
> > debootstrap -- Debian GNU/Linux bootstrapper
>
> If no-one else steps up, I'd take this. However, my package portfolio
> already has reached extents, I'd rather leave this package to somebody else.
I'll be happy to take it (FAS username 'oron
nning:
# localectl set-x11-keymap
Thus, making people understand what happened to their old file.
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There are only 10 types of people in the world-
T
don't have my scripts in front
of me for further details)
> Oh, look, someone else is using scripted build tools that use gpg. Nice to
> meet you.
I actually use them in build scripts that sign repositories, (in Debian, but
don't tell anyone ;-))
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not to mix this with the user/group granularity
issue.
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acy Unices >= 100 (except on Irix >= 1000)
It was very common to have NFS mounted /home across all servers (with different
*NIX vendors/versions).
So '99' was the "last" uid that was assured not to collide with uid's of
regular users on NFS.
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'@' for each of these combinations?
* What about ? (x86*, arm*)
* What about some package (similar to Debian)
so there's a centralized definition for all implicit build
dependencies (gcc, make, etc.) which should not be specified in
"Build-Requires".
* Other
ot; and modify "$releasever" to "31"
* Use dnf to upgrade and check if it imports the new GPG key and work
correctly.
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situatio
ation/server OS
but develop everything at $day job on Debian (KDE) and for Debian (targets).
Long live Linux ;-)
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"Debugging is at least twice as hard as wri
y be boon
for
container people (but I haven't checked, so maybe it's not significant).
Overall, going multiarch is major multi-year effort, so I agree Fedora should
not jump in this direction unless it wants to cater for embedded/IoT developers.
If it does, I strongly suggest learnin
is simply wrong:
multiarch solve the general case, while multilib solve only the
specific case you described.
(both archs are executable but one is prefered).
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query (e.g: apt list ...) always use latest cache data.
* So query by root or any user are the same -- no privileged and work on the
cache (which may/may-not be updated).
KISS,
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__
binutils, etc.)
* I.e: a developer that need cross-compilation, install the wanted
toolchain(s) and all library packages are immediately available from standard
repositories.
I guess Fedora people that work on ARM/ARM64/RISC-V would love such a support.
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