Re: Killing koji buildjobs

2017-04-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/28/2017 12:48 PM, Dan Horák wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:33:11 +0200 Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: Hi, Is there a way to kill hanging koji-buildjobs? These 2 build jobs (launched by me) seem to be hanging and don't seem to be wanting to finish (or fail) for

Killing koji buildjobs

2017-04-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, Is there a way to kill hanging koji-buildjobs? These 2 build jobs (launched by me) seem to be hanging and don't seem to be wanting to finish (or fail) for 3 days (for reasons unknown to me): - A f27 real-build: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=883086 - A f26

Re: how to handle source code from github

2017-04-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/23/2017 06:40 PM, Globe Trotter wrote: Thanks! Would you know how to make upstream provide the tarball? Is it something as simple as creating a tarball and dumping it to git? github creates them on demand. Ralf ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/29/2017 02:26 PM, Nikolai Kondrashov wrote: I would say using env in the shebang line is useful. Particularly for portability. As a developer, I wouldn't like removing it from my programs. FPC repeated discussed this and we decided to ban env, years ago. Moreover, if your PATH is

Re: Fedora-Live-26 fails to boot: A start job is running for dev-map...\x2drv.device

2017-03-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
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Fedora-Live-26 fails to boot: A start job is running for dev-map...\x2drv.device

2017-03-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I have been trying to test Fedora-Workstation-Live-i386-26-*.n.0.iso Unfortunately, all attempts in recent weeks hang with this boot message: ... [...] A start job is running for dev-map...\x2drv.device Q: Which component is issuing this message? I just filed a BZ against device-mapper,

Re: How attached are we to branch ACLs? -- Should we kill pkgdb?

2017-03-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/25/2017 01:45 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Of course, EPEL vs Fedora comes to mind here, but I wonder: if the EPEL maintainer has also commit on the Fedora branches, is it really that much of a big deal? And vice-versa? Well, I don't want to get the EPEL bugs

Re: Unresponsive packager process and reviews

2017-03-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/13/2017 03:23 PM, Parag Nemade wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: On 03/13/2017 10:38 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Is this not enough [1] or you want to make the reviews part of orphaning process? [1] https://fedoraproject.or

Re: Unresponsive packager process and reviews

2017-03-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/13/2017 10:38 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Is this not enough [1] or you want to make the reviews part of orphaning process? [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_stalled_package_reviews The latter. [1] is not enough, because it leaves stalled reviews as "assigned" with most

Re: Unresponsive packager process and reviews

2017-03-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/11/2017 07:06 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Christopher Meng (cicku) was declared unresponsive a while back. AFAICT, his account was closed. It seems like we need to have a procedure for dealing with reviews for unresponsive maintainers as well. Cf. the thread starting at:

Re: Has anybody seen Jose Pedro Oliveira (jpo) package maintainer

2017-03-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/03/2017 03:41 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: Perl SIG struggle for more than a year to retire some jpo's packages that need to be removed from Fedora because of broken dependencies: perl-ZeroMQ perl-ZMQ-LibZMQ2

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2017-03-01)

2017-03-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/03/2017 10:48 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Wasn't there rule to remove packages after two failed mass rebuilds? Besides the fact, there wasn't an F25 mass rebuild, which alone implies "2 failed mass rebuilds == 2+ years", this rule never really worked, IMO, because packages often FTBFS for

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2017-03-01)

2017-03-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/02/2017 01:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: On 03/01/2017 09:23 PM, opensou...@till.name wrote: The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopt

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2017-03-01)

2017-03-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/02/2017 05:06 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Also, in the past, IIRC, koji (or was it bodhi?) did record a person's last build activites, which would provide a strong indication about a person's activities. Unfortunately I can't find this anymore. The URL I was referring to, is: https

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2017-03-01)

2017-03-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/02/2017 04:12 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 2 March 2017 at 07:51, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: On 03/02/2017 01:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: And I also fear, this AWOL process doesn't work, because I have seen packages in the mass-rebuilt, owned by persons, of

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2017-03-01)

2017-03-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/02/2017 01:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: On 03/01/2017 09:23 PM, opensou...@till.name wrote: The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopt

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2017-03-01)

2017-03-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/01/2017 09:23 PM, opensou...@till.name wrote: The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:

Re: Noarch package with arched tests

2017-02-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/26/2017 11:13 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote: Hi, I've packaged pybind11 which is a seamless interface between Python and C++11. This is a headers-only package, which would make it noarch... Cf. the "Packaging Header Only Libraries" section in the FPG. These are required NOT to be noarched.

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/23/2017 02:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <domi...@greysector.net> wrote: On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 07:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 23 Februar

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 00:08, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 22:53 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Dear Fedora developers, there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable branch

Intend to retire perl-Log-Any-Adapter-Dispatch

2017-02-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I intend to retire perl-Log-Any-Adapter-Dispatch for Fedora > 25. - This package currently FTBFSs in fc26, - This packages doesn't seem to be used by any other package in Fedora. - Its upstream appears "semi-dead" (Last update from 2013). If you still need this package, feel free to take

Intend to retire perl-Log-Any-Adapter-Dispatch

2017-02-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I intend to retire perl-Log-Any-Adapter-Dispatch for Fedora > 25. - This package currently FTBFSs in fc26, - This packages doesn't seem to be used by any other package in Fedora. - Its upstream appears "semi-dead" (Last update from 2013). If you still need this package, feel free to take

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/21/2017 01:02 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM Ralf Corsepius No. Mr. Williamson's attitude towards the Fedora community makes it impossible to answer Without details, a vague discussion adds nothing meaningful to the conversation. Yes, and? It's Mr

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/21/2017 01:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 18:24:21 -0500 Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dennis Gilmore wrote: I do not get what you mean by your statement, it is extremely vague with no

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/21/2017 01:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:14:56 + "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" wrote: ...snip... Rawhide as it currently exists can't stay solid enough for me even with just the few pieces I absolutely need. Tumbleweed, for all it's promise of "latest

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/20/2017 08:47 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: El lun, 20-02-2017 a las 19:13 +0100, Ralf Corsepius escribió: On 02/20/2017 06:44 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: No More Alphas = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoMoreAlpha Change owner(s): * Dennis Gilmore * Adam

Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

2017-02-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/20/2017 06:44 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: No More Alphas = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoMoreAlpha Change owner(s): * Dennis Gilmore * Adam Williamson Fedora will no longer produce Alpha releases. -1 from me. This plan is not applicable and will

Re: spot pushed to perl-Log-Dispatch (master). "update to 2.60, disable test suite until Devel::Confess shows up in Fedora"

2017-02-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/13/2017 03:59 PM, notificati...@fedoraproject.org wrote: From 0e2119bee24ba67cb856f7a95d81a2944c69ab42 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tom Callaway Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:59:11 -0500 Subject: update to 2.60, disable test suite until Devel::Confess shows up in

Re: The glvnd + mesa update for F25

2017-02-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/05/2017 09:10 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi All, So a lot has been said about $subject and FESco has asked me to send a mail to the devel list describing the what and why of this change. My view: This change is way too radical to apply it to a distribution midst lifetime of its release.

Re: Boost 1.63 rebuilds underway for f26

2017-02-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/01/2017 12:44 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 01/02/17 11:15, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am 01.02.2017 um 00:19 schrieb Björn 'besser82' Esser: Am 30.01.2017 um 17:33 schrieb Jonathan Wakely: Thanks. Several of the boost rebuilds can't proceed until hdf5 is rebuilt. Your hdf5 build failed

Re: How to build both python 2 and 3 bindings from autotools?

2017-01-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/26/2017 12:10 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: Before I start hacking up something nasty I figured it's better to ask: how do I build both py2 and py3 bindings from a package using autotools (i.e. AM_PATH_PYTHON)? If these packages aren't too bugged, using 2 separate build trees and setting

Re: packaging problem - rm: cannot remove ... Permission denied

2017-01-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/22/2017 01:47 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:47:15PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: At a glance: the usual convention is 'make DESTDIR=... install', not 'make install DEST=---' Actually there is %make_install which is recommended by the Packaging Guidelines IIRC.

Re: Is there something wrong with the Koji builders?

2017-01-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/19/2017 06:55 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Please post links to the top level task. My case: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17327268 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7272/17327272/mock_output.log Approx. at the same time the i686 raised the error above, the

Re: Is there something wrong with the Koji builders?

2017-01-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/19/2017 06:37 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Now I've just seen some builds which succeeded in the build phase get marked as failed because mock throws an exception handling the results https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1011/17331011/mock_output.log Finish: run ERROR: list

Re: Is there something wrong with the Koji builders?

2017-01-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/18/2017 07:55 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If you see any further issues like the above, let me know. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17327268 seems to hang on arm7vhl and i386. The x86_64 built finished ca. 45 minutes after the built was started. However, I can not spot

Re: Is there something wrong with the Koji builders?

2017-01-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/16/2017 05:16 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I guess my monday is all mapped out for me. ;) will keep the above bugs posted and report back here when I figure anything out. ;( And I have another case for you: Buildroots fail to find/download packages: From

Re: program requires SELinux policy to write to ~/.cache directory

2017-01-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/03/2017 01:33 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 03 January 2017 at 13:18, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 01/03/2017 11:53 AM, Martin Gansser wrote: i am the package maintainer of boomaga and users told me that there is a problem with access rights, when writing to ~/.cache

Re: program requires SELinux policy to write to ~/.cache directory

2017-01-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/03/2017 11:53 AM, Martin Gansser wrote: Hi, i am the package maintainer of boomaga and users told me that there is a problem with access rights, when writing to ~/.cache directory. A selinux package already exists for testing in: https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/Review/test/boomaga/

Re: F26 Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change

2016-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/21/2016 09:22 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Fontconfig cache directory change = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FontconfigCacheDirChange Change owner(s): * Akira TAGOH The fontconfig cache files are placed onto /var/cache/fontconfig now. this seems

Re: dnf error during upgrade that changes a directory into a symlink

2016-12-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/20/2016 01:15 PM, Till Hofmann wrote: Hi all, I have a package that contains a subdirectory which is changed to a symlink in the next release. When I upgrade, I get the following error: Error: Transaction check error: file /usr/share/symlinktest/dir/subdir from install of

Re: future of official optical media support in Fedora

2016-12-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/16/2016 04:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 06:32:36AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: - Nobody argued for KDE Live. We probably don't bulk press KDE Live DVDs. If we cover Workstation Live, it's improbable that only KDE Live would break, but not impossible. If such thing

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/13/2016 07:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 14:36 +, Dave Love wrote: Simo Sorce writes: If you really need to automate it because typing a password is too hard: cat ~/.mykrbpassword | kinit myusername It needs to be automated principally because

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/12/2016 12:35 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/12/2016 01:34 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Greetings. As previously announced, releng has made a number of changes as part of it's 2016 "flag day". https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FlagDay2016 For me, builds now a

Re: Packagers - Flag day 2016 Important changes

2016-12-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/12/2016 01:34 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Greetings. As previously announced, releng has made a number of changes as part of it's 2016 "flag day". https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FlagDay2016 For me, builds now are failing with weird errors: cf.

Re: HEADS UP: shapelib soname bump

2016-12-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/11/2016 01:44 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: gpsbabel-0:1.5.3-4.fc24 + perl xmldoc/makedoc /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.rKbJFb: line 62: perl: command not found Can you file FTBFS bug? Why didn't you try a scratch-build in advance to a introducing broken builds into git? Anyway, I (gpsbabel maintainer)

Re: Call to retire gstreamer-0.10

2016-12-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/10/2016 02:16 PM, Peter Oliver wrote: On 9 Dec 2016 5:02 a.m., "Kevin Kofler" > wrote: Retiring such a library is a very long process and not doable within a Fedora release. Is this true? Yes, it is. One could drop a

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/09/2016 01:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 06:07:02 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: If as a maintainer you don't release version upgrades quickly, some users complain everywhere they are permitted to post. Except for bugzilla. And if you make available upgrades quickly,

Re: Two more concrete ideas for what a once-yearly+update schedule would look like

2016-12-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2016 03:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Trying to make this idea a little more concrete. Here's two suggestions for how it might work. These are strawman ideas -- please provide alternates, poke holes, etc. And particularly from a QA and rel-eng point of view. Both of these are not taking

Re: future of official optical media support in Fedora

2016-12-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/07/2016 04:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 03:54:25PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Do you burn them to actual physical spinning optical media? Nowadays, I usually put them on USB-sticks or SDCards. However I also have to admit having resorted to using optical media

Re: future of official optical media support in Fedora

2016-12-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/07/2016 03:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 02:05:20PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: It's still a good test to do. For example, Server and netinst ISO images are used a lot for VMs, but not for bare metal. Well, your view - I have been using netinst-ISOs only

Re: future of official optical media support in Fedora

2016-12-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/07/2016 11:15 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: On 06/12/2016 18:11, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2016-12-06 at 15:00 +, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: W dniu 06.12.2016 o 14:43, Kamil Paral pisze: All of that is, of course, motivated by trying to spend QA time more effectively. You can see

Re: F26 System Wide Change: Fedora 26 C/C++ Compilation Flags Updates - warning

2016-12-05 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/06/2016 04:44 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: I've run into a reasonable number of failures of (custom) configure checks due to this. Mainly calling exit() without including stdlib.h. So keep alert everyone. Unfortunately this can lead to unpredictable and perhaps hard to detect changes.

Re: Creating an new update is failing

2016-11-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/30/2016 07:10 PM, Patrick マルタインアンドレアス Uiterwijk wrote: Hi, Hello, I'm trying to create a new update and I'm getting this error: Builds : Unable to create update. Parent instance is not bound to a Session; lazy load operation of attribute 'release' cannot proceed I'm very sorry

Re: Creating an new update is failing

2016-11-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/30/2016 06:28 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: Hello, I'm trying to create a new update and I'm getting this error: Builds : Unable to create update. Parent instance is not bound to a Session; lazy load operation of attribute 'release' cannot proceed The build looks fine:

Re: Upgrade path violations in F25

2016-11-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/25/2016 09:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2016-11-25 at 18:38 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/25/2016 05:51 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: So we already do pretty much what you outline above. I started the first push to f25-updates on the Friday before the release. I think, we

Re: Upgrade path violations in F25

2016-11-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/25/2016 06:55 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: So we already do pretty much what you outline above. I started the first push to f25-updates on the Friday before the release. I think, we are talking past each other. You seem to be referring to "the freeze" in terms of the final release push,

Re: Upgrade path violations in F25

2016-11-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/25/2016 05:51 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: So we already do pretty much what you outline above. I started the first push to f25-updates on the Friday before the release. I think, we are talking past each other. You seem to be referring to "the freeze" in terms of the final release push,

Re: Upgrade path violations in F25

2016-11-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/25/2016 04:36 PM, James Hogarth wrote: On 25 November 2016 at 14:15, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:24:40PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: For the release of F25, has nobody run the upgrade path violations checker to warn packagers about any

Re: line 1: udevadm: command not found

2016-11-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/25/2016 01:17 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The root.log of F25 build jobs prints this late: DEBUG util.py:421: Running transaction DEBUG util.py:421: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.W2zvnF: line 1: udevadm: command not found DEBUG util.py:421: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.W2zvnF: line 2: udevadm: command not

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/18/2016 06:08 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On 2016-11-18 09:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: In fact, now I think about it for two seconds, the 'fedora-obsolete-packages' package can fulfill this role perfectly well. If we make it a policy that all packages which are retired but not

Re: Recommended upgrade procedure for >1 release upgrades

2016-11-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/18/2016 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: (Interestingly, there is actually a way to solve this *retroactively*: the other week I was kicking around the idea of setting up a third-party repo containing a single package named fedora-obsoletes which just contains a bunch of obsoletes for

Re: dnf should not update debuginfo if not updating packgages

2016-11-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/03/2016 04:08 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Qui, 2016-11-03 at 06:57 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: So we updated debuginfo, but didn't install the corresponding packages. That seems like a bug. it isn't a bug , debuginfo packages doesn't require same version of counter part and vice-versa .

Re: RPM %changelog?

2016-10-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/23/2016 04:09 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 03:49 +, Christopher wrote: 2. Should I preserve the entire changelog in the SPEC? Or should I roll it over when I update to the latest upstream? It seems the changelog could easily become the bulk of a package if

Re: Where is /null coming from [was Re: where is /1 coming from?]

2016-10-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/13/2016 01:03 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 04:39:18PM +0200, Björn Esser wrote: Additionally I see a file called /null with zero length! Same finding (/null) for me, too. Yup. Okay, let's try this again. :) FWIW: It seems to be created at each boot. Ralf

Re: Triaging RH Bugzilla and forwarding bugs upstream (Was: F24, small backward steps)

2016-09-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/14/2016 07:01 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: My impression is, in many cases, it's ego, which prevents to acknowledge they need "to divert". I'm not sure what you mean by divert. This is a Dinglish "politically correct" phrase to describe "to partially give up/step down", "make room to

Re: Triaging RH Bugzilla and forwarding bugs upstream

2016-09-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/14/2016 07:03 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "RC" == Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> writes: RC> - A package triggering too many BZs. RC> IMO, this should question the package's quality. A package with a million users is going to get more bugs than a packa

Re: Triaging RH Bugzilla and forwarding bugs upstream (Was: F24, small backward steps)

2016-09-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/14/2016 06:24 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> wrote: In this areas I primarily see 2 groups: - Maintainers, who are overloaded with BZs. IMO, this primarily is an ego problem and partially a project management/lead

Re: Triaging RH Bugzilla and forwarding bugs upstream (Was: F24, small backward steps)

2016-09-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/14/2016 04:44 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "RC" == Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de> writes: RC> IMO, it should be mandatory for Fedora maintainers to look into RH RC> Bugzilla, because that's the product they are "maintaining" and what RC> user

Re: F24, small backward steps

2016-09-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/13/2016 07:19 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2016, Ralf Corsepius wrote: This is a truly awful experiance from POV of a Fedora user filing bugs :-( We've set a silent trap for them with no warning of the fact that their bug reports are going to be ignored until Fedora EOL

Re: F24, small backward steps

2016-09-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/13/2016 07:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: That is the crux of the problem with this approach. It is impossible for a user to determine which packages have maintainers that look in RH Bugzilla and which do not. IMO, it should be mandatory for Fedora maintainers to look into RH Bugzilla,

Re: F24, small backward steps

2016-09-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/13/2016 05:09 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: This is a truly awful experiance from POV of a Fedora user filing bugs :-( We've set a silent trap for them with no warning of the fact that their bug reports are going to be ignored until Fedora EOL procedure closes them :-( One lesson I have

Re: Hacks for multilib unclean C headers

2016-06-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/07/2016 11:03 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 17:30:58 +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: In database packages we have that multilib hack for a very long time, mostly C'ed among various spec files. #if defined(__x86_64__) #include "${filename}${opt_additional_suffix}_x86_64.h"

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: corsepiu

2016-05-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/16/2016 09:39 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Unfortunately I am in the position that I must initiate the non-responsive maintainer policy for Ralf. I apologize for not having responded, but ... The Coin3 package has a serious bug[1] that was only recently uncovered by GCC 6. The big

Re: No mass rebuild in Fedora 25

2016-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/02/2016 02:16 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: The reason for not having mass rebuild during F25 development cycle is very tight schedule for F25 and we would like to avoid slips in F25 as much as possible. That is the main motivation here. In other words sacrificing quality for marketing reasons -

Headsup: qhull upgrade on rawhide

2016-04-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, I intent to upgrade qhull to version 2015.2 on rawhide throughout the next couple of days/near future. This is a major upgrade, which will introduce API/ABI/SONAME changes and likely packaging changes, as well. This update will require rebuilds of several packages and will trigger

Re: freecad: Need help with segfault problem on F24

2016-04-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/22/2016 02:58 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Jonathan Wakely > wrote: > Looks like Mamoru figured it out, thanks everyone for the help. > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1323159#c34 I'm

Re: weakdeps and the buildroot

2016-04-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/07/2016 06:40 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Hi All, Following the decision of FPC that weak deps must not be installed into the buildroot[1] koji has been changed to set install_weak_deps to 0. What this means is that some builds may fail due to missing things. if you encounter this the

Re: Removing perl from build root

2016-04-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/04/2016 09:46 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 05:00:14PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 04/01/2016 03:46 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 12:14:43PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 02:43:41PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: Requires: (perl

Re: Removing perl from build root

2016-04-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/01/2016 03:46 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 12:14:43PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 02:43:41PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: Requires: (perl-generators if perl-libs) That's interesting idea. I only worry there could be cases when the perl-generators

Re: Removing perl from build root

2016-04-01 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/01/2016 03:33 PM, Paul Howarth wrote: I think people doing development work like that are less bothered about pulling in a few deps than the cloud/embedded people, where every megabyte is worth saving. Sizes matter at run-time, but I fail to understand why they would matter much at

Re: Very late Koji certificate expiration warnings

2016-02-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/29/2016 10:16 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 09:23:30AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You do know that such report would be much better suited on the infrastructure trac [1] rather than here, right? No. Read the initial chapter of HHGTG, then you may understand

Very late Koji certificate expiration warnings

2016-02-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, Today (2016-02-29) I received a mail, seemingly having been sent last night (2016-02-29 01:18 CET), entitled "Your Koji certificate expires within a week" --- snip --- This is an automated email sent to inform you that your Fedora Project Koji certificate is about to expire. Koji

Re: Couldn't find DIE referenced by DW_OP_GNU_implicit_pointer

2016-02-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/24/2016 06:31 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: Google found that message in: https://ppisar.fedorapeople.org/perl_rebuild/scratch/latest/packages/perl-version/build.log dwz: ./usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/version/vxs/vxs.so.debug: Couldn't find DIE referenced by DW_OP_GNU_implicit_pointer

Re: Declining package maintenance requests? (Was Re: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26)

2016-02-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/21/2016 11:44 AM, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: Now, I think that it makes sense to have the POC/Package Admins able to approve and/or decline requests. I think the following 3 improvements would greatly improve the ACL request experience: - auto-accept the ACL requests after 7 days of

Re: Access denied [Was: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26]

2016-02-20 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/20/2016 11:08 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 08:50:25AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/20/2016 08:44 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 06:26:42AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: There is a bug, we've been investigating but haven't fix yet

Re: Access denied [Was: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26]

2016-02-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/20/2016 08:44 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 06:26:42AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/20/2016 05:01 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: rpms/freefem++ -- PDE solving tool ( master f23 f22 el6 ) I am trying to push an update for freefem++, using my provenpackager

Access denied [Was: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26]

2016-02-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/20/2016 05:01 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: rpms/freefem++ -- PDE solving tool ( master f23 f22 el6 ) I am trying to push an update for freefem++, using my provenpackager privileges, but I am denied access: -- $ git push Enter passphrase for key 'XX': WARNING: 'freefem

Re: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26

2016-02-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/19/2016 07:09 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Hello, In today's FESCo meeting, FESCo agreed to orphan all of Christoper Meng's packages on February 26, 2016 at 17:00 UTC if there was no further contact from Christopher. Normally we would not necessarily pre-announce an oprhaning action, however

Re: GCC 6 -Wnonnull is too aggressive

2016-02-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/19/2016 12:16 PM, Petr Spacek wrote: It is not black-white question. Absolutely. But I say, there should not be any room for -Werror in production SW/packages. The fact, * different version of gcc raise different warnings * gcc on different architectures raise different warnings. *

Re: openCOLLADA: Help with GCC6 narrowing conversion

2016-02-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/19/2016 12:05 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2016-02-15 at 17:09 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Exactly. Because of this, I -fsigned-char should only be applied as a last resort/work-around to mere program/application packages and not to library packages, IMHO. Or to programs which

Re: orphaning dx (OpenDX)

2016-02-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/18/2016 01:54 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 at 17:37, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/17/2016 02:54 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hello, I'm orphaning the dx and dx-samples in rawhide. [...] Feel free to take it (and request other

Re: GCC 6 -Wnonnull is too aggressive

2016-02-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/17/2016 06:51 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:25:29 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Remove -Werror. [...] -Werror is useful to devs when actively working on code, but using it in released production code to be used in packages is plain st***. -Werror has found me many

Re: GCC 6 -Wnonnull is too aggressive

2016-02-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/17/2016 05:43 PM, Petr Spacek wrote: Hello, And because upstream is paranoid, it is being compiled with: $ gcc -Werror -Wall Did anyone met similar problem? What did you do with it? Remove -Werror. __attribute__((nonnull)) is tremendously useful for static code analysis and helped

Re: orphaning dx (OpenDX)

2016-02-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/17/2016 02:54 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hello, I'm orphaning the dx and dx-samples in rawhide. It is FTBFS in rawhide due to stricter checks in gcc-6, the upstream is dead (or actually it was never there, ever since IBM released the code), and the code itself is ancient

Re: orphaning dx (OpenDX)

2016-02-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/17/2016 03:09 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 at 15:00, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: Hello, I'm orphaning the dx and dx-samples in rawhide. It is FTBFS in

Re: openCOLLADA: Help with GCC6 narrowing conversion

2016-02-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/15/2016 04:54 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 04:46:32PM +0100, Dan Horák wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:35:03 -0600 Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Dan Horák wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 08:34:31 -0600 Richard

Re: dnf remove qemu-img uninstall kernel

2016-02-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/12/2016 07:18 PM, Mattia Verga wrote: I've installed qemu to play with arm virtualization, now I want to uninstall it, but it seems that trying to uninstall anything qemu related also removes all installed kernels Is this a DNF bug? Yes, kernels must never be removed unless explictly

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/10/2016 09:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 10.2.2016 v 07:19 Eric Griffith napsal(a): Functionally, whats the effect of this change? I understand, I am fighting Red Hat wind-mills, but I consider this change to be non-helpful, like I consider all of UsrMov too be a serious mistake.

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/04/2016 09:44 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 07:09:53PM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Right. Tooling should stop that too. And I'm not just talking _completely_ in hand-wavy theory. This is Dennis Gilmore's plan, where any package build which breaks other packages

Re: Unannounced soname bump: libpsl

2016-02-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/03/2016 12:42 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 05:26:23 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 06:13:13PM -0600, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: This approach really scales badly and creates busywork. And breaking rawhide however often due to unnoticed soname bumps

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