Re: Status of CMake on EPEL-8?

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 12:35, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30 2021 at 10:59:22 AM -0500, Ron Olson > wrote: > > Hm, so does that mean it was packaged specifically for CentOS so it > > presumably shows up in the CentOS repos? > > No, content flow is the reverse in el8: > > RHEL 8 (upstr

Re: New RPM submission

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 12:26, Mattia Verga via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Il 30/04/21 15:16, Joan Moreau via devel ha scritto: > > Thanks but I am really scratching my head to try to understand all this: > > 1 - How to get to the "packager" group ou forum or else ? > > 2 - Wha

Re: Status of CMake on EPEL-8?

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 12:00, Ron Olson wrote: > Hm, so does that mean it was packaged specifically for CentOS so it > presumably shows up in the CentOS repos? > > Cmake is not in EPEL but in RHEL. The current version for 8.3 is ./rhel-8-for-x86_64-appstream-rpms/Packages/c/cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 15:20, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary > maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get me

Re: Fedora 33 and 34 Workstation images not booting in Hyper-V

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 15:56, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 14:58, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 14:34, Marius Schwarz >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I had the

Re: Fedora 33 and 34 Workstation images not booting in Hyper-V

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 14:58, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 14:34, Marius Schwarz > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I had the chance check Fedora Workstation Images F33 + F34 Beta on a >> brandnew Windows Server with Hyper-V latest. >>

Re: Fedora 33 and 34 Workstation images not booting in Hyper-V

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 14:34, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > I had the chance check Fedora Workstation Images F33 + F34 Beta on a > brandnew Windows Server with Hyper-V latest. > > I am able to boot Fedora 33 and Fedora 34 beta iso's on Hyper-V Manager 10.0.19041.1 but I don't know if you could

Re: can't login FAS

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 22:26, Honggang LI wrote: > Hi, > After input my FAS accout and password, I got this error message. > > After input where? What place did you get this error? > = > > 500 Internal Server Error > > Could not convert return value of the view ca

Re: Fedora Account Migration & Production Deployment Update: COMPLETE!

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 16:47, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:34:49PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > Dnia Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 03:26:53PM -0500, Brandon Nielsen napisał(a): > > > On 3/26/21 3:24 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 02:48:39PM -0400, Christophe

Re: Fedora Account Migration & Production Deployment Update: COMPLETE!

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 16:27, Brandon Nielsen wrote: > On 3/26/21 3:24 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 02:48:39PM -0400, Christopher wrote: > [Snip] > >> * In many places, including accounts.fedoraproject.org, in order to > >> log in, you have to append the OTP to your passw

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 13:04, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 3/22/21 6:56 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > My main problem is that for a good portion of the 1990's the GNU > > operating system was HURD and any and all work on Linux was seen as a >

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 02:09, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 3/9/21 7:43 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > 2. Why Linux and not GNU/Linux? Linux is just a kernel. GNU/Linux is an OS. > > Fedora Linux is an OS. Although GNU project utilities are indeed essential, > Fedora Linux consists of more than those

Re: ELN composes on mirrors

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 18:24, Davide Cavalca via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2021-03-14 at 13:47 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > The eln composes (at least as far as I know) are done via ODCS > > (on demand compose service) and are already available on the master > > mirr

Re: ELN SIG First Meeting

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 16:42, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 05:09:44PM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote: > > I'm not sure this is all a super big deal, but I'd really like to make > sure we make _very_ clear who is responsible for what. Some maintainers > would be happy to maintain for tha

Re: Interesting growth trend in Rawhide

On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 12:51, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:10:50AM -, Artur Frenszek-Iwicki wrote: > > It may also have something to do with what Marius said about Fedora > possibly > > running on Pinephone and other devices, which apparently need bleeding > edge stuff that

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 12:46, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 09.03.2021 18:20, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Feel free to start your own distro with whatever name > > *you* choose;-) > > I'm Fedora maintainer too, so I have the right to show my point of view > on thi

Re: python noarch packaging vs pip install

On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 at 12:34, Mattia Verga via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I'm just wondering: what's the benefit of packaging Python noarch > projects in Fedora? > > I can see the reason about packaging architecture specific packages, > since they will benefit of optimizations

Re: Request to include package: coreboot

On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 01:11, romulasry via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Preferribly a git version with all packages would be nice > > Are you proposing to do the work? Or are you looking for people to do the work? > Hope this is the right place to put this, if not what list,

Re: ELN SIG First Meeting

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 16:21, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:56:24AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > I think we are all using different short hand definitions of what we want > > to happen and are seeing each other skip steps because of that. I am very >

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 13:50, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, snip > > IIRC a default GNOME workstation install consumes about 700-800MB of RAM > when logged into the desktop on a 1G RAM system. After I've done a bunch of > hacks / tweaks to remove a long list of unnecessary (1) processes I have i

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 11:21, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > > > It has very limited functionality by design. If you do not want to use > SSSD, you can keep using sssd profile and just disable the service. It will > keep working. The minimal profile is there for users that also want to > remove ss

Re: ELN SIG First Meeting

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 03:01, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 09:46:52AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 01:04:56AM +, Davide Cavalca via devel wrote: > > > Yes, the idea I had in mind was that each package that currenty has an > > > "epel8" branch would al

Re: ELN SIG First Meeting

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 20:18, Davide Cavalca via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 15:49 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > That would require a lot of changes in both EPEL and in Fedora. In > > Fedora there is a general expectation

Re: ELN SIG First Meeting

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 14:46, Davide Cavalca via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 09:26 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I'd like to encourage anyone interested in this meeting to submit > > agenda topics by replying to this email. Currently the agenda > > On

Re: Please remove "-i" from "%forgemeta" templates on wiki

On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 18:54, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > I don't think "documentation is harder to keep up to date there" is > right, > > Well, I guess it does not apply that much to the pages which were already > in > an ACL-locked n

Re: Don't update to the latest f33!

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 17:39, Steve Dickson wrote: > Hello, > > I just updated to latest Fedora 33 and > I no longer have any DNS name solution. > The network is up... but... > > $ ping www.yahoo.com > ping: www.yahoo.com: Name or service not known > > I changed nothing! > > How would be the bet

Re: So long for now...

On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 at 13:29, Martin Jackson wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I've had some changes recently at my day job, and while I was hoping I > would have more time to take care of my Fedora (and EPEL) packages, that > seems to not be in the immediate future for me. I'm sorry to those who > dep

Re: ELN SIG Launch

On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 17:01, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > In written English the word 'or' is not exclusive and 'yes' is a synonym > > for 'TRUE'. Basically the question is

Re: Fedora 35 Change proposal: POWER 4k page size (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 14:06, Alex Perez wrote: > Kevin, > > On 2/13/2021 9:51:48 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 05:15, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> >> >> On 13/02/2021 09:11, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> > Dnia Fri, Feb 12,

Re: Fedora 35 Change proposal: POWER 4k page size (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 05:15, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 13/02/2021 09:11, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > Dnia Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:16:26PM +0100, Daniel Pocock napisał(a): > >> > >> > >> On 12/02/2021 21:19, Justin Forbes wrote: > >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:21 AM Ben Cotton > wrote: > >

Re: ELN SIG Launch

On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 19:59, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Is this a Fedora project or a Red Hat project using Fedora resources? > > > > Yes. > > "Yes" is not a valid answer to that "or" question. > > In written English the word 'or

Re: New memory tester application potentially to replace memtest86+: PCMemTest

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 09:41, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 2/7/21 12:16 PM, drago01 wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, Roberto Ragusa > wrote: > > > > It can only be an alternative, not a replacement, since it is > dropping features: > > > > «In partic

Re: Status update for the new AAA system

On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 11:37, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 04. 02. 21 v 15:52 Aurelien Bompard napsal(a): > > Hey folks! > > > > As you've probably heard before, we're upgrading our authentication > system to something that is based on FreeIPA. > > Here's a quick status report on that initiative. >

Re: Ars claims: Fedora 32 is sluggish

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 14:13, Artem Tim wrote: > I did my own various tests on Ryzen (Zen 2) 4 month ago or so on Fedora > 32/33 vs Clear Linux which known to be "fastest" distro and in almost all > benchmarks Fedora was equal or even faster a little bit then Clear Linux. > In rare cases Clear Lin

Re: Jython maintainer for Fedora needed

On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 14:59, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 31. 01. 21 20:44, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 14:29, Miro Hrončok > <mailto:mhron...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > Hello Pythonistas (and especially Jyt

Re: Jython maintainer for Fedora needed

On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 14:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello Pythonistas (and especially Jythonistas), > > I've noticed Jython is orphaned in Fedora. > > There is a new version 2.7.2 available from March 2020. I took a peek, > however > there are patches in Fedora's Jython I don't fully understand,

Re: COMMERCIAL - Bosch - Architect

The following is an official statement. On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 09:10, George Bastin wrote: > Dear colleagues at Fedora, > > > > I am hoping to discuss a *Senior Security and Systems > Architect/Engineering* opportunity I am working on directly with *Robert > Bosch Car Multimedia GmbH* with you!

Re: Policy proposal (draft): Don't push knowingly broken or work-in-progress work to dist git

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 07:00, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, at 6:27 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 03:12:50AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > IMHO, the real issue is the one Robbie Harwood pointed out: It should > NOT be > > > a common occu

Re: Policy proposal (draft): Don't push knowingly broken or work-in-progress work to dist git

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 13:58, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:42:17PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 13:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbys...@in.waw.pl> > > wrote: > > > > > > If th

Re: Policy proposal (draft): Don't push knowingly broken or work-in-progress work to dist git

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 13:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 07:19:45PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 25. 01. 21 19:03, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > >On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 03:59:43PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > >>1. Packagers MUST NOT push changes

Re: live respin archive

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 06:03, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 17:45 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 1/24/21 5:40 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 1/23/21 1:09 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > Have we a FedoraRespin-32 ? w

Re: What should I do, without being in the packager group, to get updates for a package?

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 08:22, Felix Schwarz wrote: > Hi Cristian, > > thank you for contributing to Fedora :-) > > Agreed thank you > Am 07.01.21 um 13:05 schrieb Cristian Morales Vega: > > Also cmake is a pretty important package so there might be the need to > coordinate updating with the rest

Re: Delta RPMs in Fedora 34

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 03:50, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 05. 01. 21 v 0:29 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > > So, the first thing we need to do to fix this is move deltarpm creation > out > > of the updates process. > > Right. > > > Kevin Fenzi tells me this would mean we'd need a > > separate delta

Re: Popularity contest for Fedora

On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 17:52, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:44:57PM +0100, clime wrote: > > I think we can simply parse server-side access logs to count package > > downloads, no? > > We can for our primary server, but most people get updates from mirrors > which we don't run

Re: What is the most time consuming task for you as packager?

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 04:14, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 16. 12. 20 v 21:56 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > >>> Yes, that's a real pain. Can we just add everything to Koschei instead > >>> of having it opt-in? > >> Thats worth considering in the new year. I would like that. :) > >> > > I would apprecia

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 04:45, Robin Opletal wrote: > I think this wouldn't be that much of a problem - what I think is bad is > that CentOS Stream security updates aren't going to come before RHEL's > will, and they will essentially be backported, at least as I understood > it. > > a) CentOS regu

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 00:29, przemek klosowski via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > On 12/16/20 5:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 04:28:49PM -0500, przemek klosowski via devel wrote: > > I was trying to make a point that we don't have a way to check the init

Re: Koji Offline - Infrastruture Status page says : all fine ?

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 13:18, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Hi, > > Koji has an Outtage. No Idea it it's planned or a failure. According to > https://status.fedoraproject.org/ ist should work. > > The page also says that things are manually done to that page. We have to stop working on fires to chang

Re: [EPEL-devel] Broken EPEL7 builds

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 10:08, Antonio T. sagitter wrote: > Hi everyone. > > EPEL7 builds are not executed due to this error: > > I am guessing you are talking about building packages in Fedora Infrastructure? Do you have a koji job we can point developers to? > DEBUG util.py:634: Traceback (

Re: The future of Fedora Server (was Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change))

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 15:17, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 02:51:45PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > It would be interesting if we had a set of use cases Fedora Server > > actually solves. So far in this thread we've seen people use it, but > > it reads to me like they use it to

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 11:18, Tom Stellard wrote: > On 12/3/20 7:39 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > >> > >> On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: > >>> How to quickly retest packages which listed here > https://fedorapeople.org/~tstellar/needs_br

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 02:58, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 19.11.2020 23:13, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Some packagers in Fedora do not have time to maintain the build > dependencies > > for the packages that they are actually interested in and have time to

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 14:25, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 14:15 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > My apologies for that misinformation. While a federated chat system is a > > network of servers for people being social, I should not tie them in

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 13:29, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 13:23 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 12:57, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrot

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 12:57, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 19.11.2020 18:34, Radka Gustavsson wrote: > > >Rich, IRC is not being dropped, it is being bridged to modern, > > >"IRC-native" (for lack of better word in m

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove and deprecate nscd in favour of sssd and systemd-resolved (Self-Contained Change)

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 19:26, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen said: > > Because a lot of networks use routing tricks to send traffic to > particular > > DNS server IP addresses. They may round robin, traffic route, or other > > methods to s

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove and deprecate nscd in favour of sssd and systemd-resolved (Self-Contained Change)

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 18:37, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/15/20 7:31 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Implementing this does not come without drawbacks though: right now > > resolved tries hard to use the same server if at all possible, since > > we want to use newer DNS features if possible, but

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 18:53, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many > > lightly-maintained packages in practice. > > Do we really? Which are those packages? > > The one that keeps getti

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (see note about xinetd)

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 10:01, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Petr Pisar said: > > I believe it's unlikely that somobody will adopt xinetd. It was orphaned > > because its maintainer orphaned all his packages. > > Are there replacements for the old services built in to xinetd? It's a > s

Re: Planned Outage: 2020-11-11 21:00 UTC Fedora Services

On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 17:31, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > There will be an outage starting at 2020-11-11 21:00UTC, > which will last approximately 6 hours. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto > or r

Planned Outage: 2020-11-11 21:00 UTC Fedora Services

There will be an outage starting at 2020-11-11 21:00UTC, which will last approximately 6 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2017-05-03 21:00UTC' Reason for outage: Apply updates and new kernels for all

Re: Recompiling Packages with Optimization Flags

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 02:36, Joseph D Wagner wrote: > Forgive me if this is the wrong spot to ask. > > I'm doing some CPU intensive work, and I'd like to optimize a few > packages. Even if it's only a 5% gain, it will add up over many > hours/days of continuous runtime. > > Back in the day, I co

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove make from BuildRoot (System-Wide Change)

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 09:42, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 08:57:32AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 08:52, wrote: > > > > > The make package use 539k of space. And for gcc + C++ it's more than > 30 Mo. > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove make from BuildRoot (System-Wide Change)

On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 08:52, wrote: > The make package use 539k of space. And for gcc + C++ it's more than 30 Mo. > Does it really worth the effort on changing all the dependent packages ? > > Personally I am getting tired of this death of the buildroot by a million cuts. Could we just 'engineer'

Re: EOL and Obsoletes in Modularity

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 at 06:55, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 11/2/20 12:33 PM, Daniel Mach wrote: > > Then there's a question how to get the documents into modules.yaml. From > my > > perspective, it's up to Fedora infra/releng/packaging people. Whether it > should > > be in dist-git, git repo (similar

Re: bsd wtf (was Re: youtube-dl Copyright Violations)

On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 13:33, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Tim Flink wrote: > > > > There is a maintained upstream for bsd-games [1] that has effectively > > forked the old codebase and trimmed out some of the bits which are not > > quite games including wtf (the

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 02:15, Subsentient wrote: > I figure I'll add my two cents for as little as that's worth. > > Personally, I use extlinux with a custom, barebones configuration. On my > EFI systems, I use syslinux EFI. I like the simplicity of syntax for > syslinux's configuration and how s

Re: Introducing vim-default-editor subpackage - replace nano as a default editor if wanted

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 08:44, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 12.10.2020 14:16, Neal Gompa wrote: > > 2. Having subpackages like this that conflict by name is going to get > > crazy really fast, so we need a virtual name to make RPM only permit > > one of them

Re: Could Bodhi create some temporary repositories before composes are ready?

On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 12:21, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 5:06:59 PM CEST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 03:16, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > > The KMail app stopped working for me today, and I realized there's > > &

Re: Could Bodhi create some temporary repositories before composes are ready?

On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 03:16, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > The KMail app stopped working for me today, and I realized there's > update to which I'd like to give a try: > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-15d324f87c > > In Bodhi, the suggested command to test this update is: > > s

Re: Bodhi failed to get a resource from PDC ...

This outage should be over. On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 07:50, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 13:43:57 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Bodhi fails with this error message. Any suggestion on how to continue? > > > > Builds : Unable to create update. > > Bodhi failed to get a re

Re: Fedora 32/33 livedisks do not boot on M$ system(s)

On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 11:54, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > On 9/30/2020 8:17 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:05 AM Marius Schwarz > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> the livecds from F32 and F33 are suffering from a problem not booting on > >> Microsoft device(s) > >> > >> https://bugz

Re: Switching to DWARF5 default for GCC11 (and the default Fedora 34 toolchain)

On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:41, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:50:39 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > = What I am NOT working on > [...] > > - Any other tool, project not mentioned above or other > > native toolchains like golang, rust, clang/llvm or ocaml. > > I expect those to

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 13:05, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 09:44:13AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > After reading https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8967, I really > > don't think that systemd-resolved's benefits outweigh its harms as a > > default res

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 13:44, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:16:32 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Then that certainly means that Ubuntu uses this too, since they reuse > > the dbgsym subpackage generation for the ddeb system they have now. > > I am not much familiar with Debian/Ubun

Re: Fedora 33 - ssh clients - drop of PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes=ssh-rsa

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 16:03, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:52:21 PM CEST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 07:11:29PM +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > After upgrade of one of my servers to F33, I noticed that I can not > ssh to > > > one of my other servers

Re: Fedora 33 - ssh clients - drop of PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes=ssh-rsa

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 13:12, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > After upgrade of one of my servers to F33, I noticed that I can not ssh to > one of my other servers running Debian 9 system (relatively freshly EOLed, > I need to do something about it). On F33 I always need to: > > $ ssh -oPubkeyAccepte

Re: Test machines for maintainers (was: btrfs and default page sizes (4k vs 64k))

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 16:14, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > Hi, Kevin. > > On Friday, 18 September 2020 at 19:46, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:08:46AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:07 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szme

Re: maybe a path forward for java and modules? [was Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)]

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 12:53, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:01:00AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > If one of the issues here can be stated as "we want buildroot-only > > packages because we don't want to maintain those packages to a high > > standard", it is demonstrably a

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 07:27, Mario Torre wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:04 AM Hans de Goede > wrote: > > > So for this tomcat needed for testing problem, I'm thinking that we > > might solve this in a very non Fedora way. Why not bundle the old > > tomcat-sources with the sources which nee

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 13:31, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 04:03:46PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 02:35:13PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:50:55PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote: > > > > > > > 4. The benefit we want to p

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 09:37, Björn Persson wrote: > Guido Aulisi wrote: > > IMHO we could package only the JDK and let the user use Java software > directly from upstream. > > Usually upstream means Apache, which is a trusted source, and Java users > are smart enough to manage the Java packages.

Re: services impact on startup times

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:39, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Monday, August 31, 2020 5:46:47 AM MST Peter Oliver wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:27:33 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > Unless systemd timers run crontab entries, crond and atd cannot be > > > disabled. > > > > Why's

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 15:58, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Mon, 2020-08-24 at 12:25 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > usb_modeswitch > > any particular reason for usb_modeswitch be orphaned ? , i.e. is about > no maintainer ? or about is not used anymore ? > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/li

Re: Deprecation of Anaconda boot parameters without inst. prefix

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 08:58, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:16 PM wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Anaconda team has decided to deprecate use of Anaconda kernel boot > > parameters without 'inst.' prefix. As you may already know you can > > specify Anaconda kernel boo

Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update?

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 10:05, Alex Scheel wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Stephen John Smoogen" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > , asch...@redhat.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:55:17 A

Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update?

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 09:36, Alex Scheel wrote: > > I'm bumping this thread. This is still broken. > Please open a ticket at https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue and open new issue with an explanation of what is broken and where you are pulling from. If it is a fedora registry then i

Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 09:37, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 04.08.2020 13:58, Kamil Paral wrote: > > So, how do we ban spammers from this list? CC devel-owner. > > Allow only CLA+1 group members to post messages. > I don't think mailman has any idea about group membership and I really don

Re: Headsup: dbus 1.12.10-1.fc29 is missing systemd dbus.service file, breaking almost everything

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 08:58, Kamil Paral wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:42 PM Mike Johnson wrote: >> >> Thank you for this headsup, I want to share some info too. I have found one >> site https://soclikes.com/buy-instagram-mentions-user-followers, here you >> can cheap get instagram menti

Re: Why lxd is not included in Fedora?

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 18:45, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > Hi! > Just out of curiosity, why is lxd not included in Fedora? > Thanks in advance! > A quick review of the development mailing lists sees the last person mentioning that they were working on packaging LXD was in 2016, and they only did it in

Re: ar (binutils) segfaulting in Rawhide - known bug?

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 17:51, Jeff Law wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 22:40 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 03:37:05PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote: > > > Hmm, what's interesting here is that it's binutils-2.34, so it's not > > > the update that Nick was doing to do today.

Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 05:04, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > Userspace isn't dead when a system is thrashing. Your software is still > > running. If it gets killed, you're most likely going to lose your data. > > The thing is, there are various levels of thrashing. In some ca

Re: Outdated programs in rawhide

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 05:14, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:36:09 +0200 > Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > > > scala: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1080923 > > libnetfilter_queue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1512736 > > nftables: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1846663 > > libcap: https://bugz

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 16:49, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > > On 7/9/20 2:11 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: > > >> > > >> From what I've gathered from these responses, btrfs is unique in that > > >> it is > > >> /expected/ that if anything goes wrong, t

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 01:19, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:40 PM Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > > On 7/3/20 1:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > SSDs can fail in weird ways. Some spew garbage as they're failing, > > > some go read-only. I've seen both. I don't have stats on how common

Re: modular and personal koji

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 10:33, Didier Fabert wrote: > > Hi all, > > With my personal koji (on el8), I cannot build some packages for my el8 > tag. All failures are about modular metadata packages which cannot be > installed. > Koji doesn't really understand modules and the depsolver has problems. F

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 07:38, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you keep > > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar if > > > you keep "l" pressed down it will automaticall boot into linux, "a" > > > will b

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 11:23, Markus Larsson wrote: > > > > On 5 July 2020 16:27:07 CEST, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 11:34, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:20 AM Lennart Poettering > >> wrote: &g

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 11:34, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:20 AM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > > On Mi, 01.07.20 21:06, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > The user-interactive portion of sd-boot is *awful*. I know our GRUB > > > looks ugly by default these day

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 13:14, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 18:54, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On 01. 07. 20 18:33, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:28 am, Michael Catanzaro > > > wrote: > > >> I have not much opinion on whether we should use this vs. nano.

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