Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-21 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 18. 03. 22 v 8:26 Tomas Hrcka napsal(a): > distgit is basically pagure in it has a DB we were thinking about moving > package-specific data like EOL to in information already stored in the DB > for each repository. I cannot parse your sentence. Does it mean there is one

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-18 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 3:59 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:58:54PM -0400, Christopher napsal(a): > > Even if PDC is the most valuable thing to Fedora composes ever, casual > > contributors who only work on packaging should never have to care > > about it. > > > You should

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-18 Thread Petr Pisar
V Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 01:24:09PM +0100, Fabio Valentini napsal(a): > On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:58 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:58:54PM -0400, Christopher napsal(a): > > > Even if PDC is the most valuable thing to Fedora composes ever, casual > > > contributors who only

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-18 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:58 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:58:54PM -0400, Christopher napsal(a): > > Even if PDC is the most valuable thing to Fedora composes ever, casual > > contributors who only work on packaging should never have to care > > about it. > > > You should

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-18 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:58:54PM -0400, Christopher napsal(a): > Even if PDC is the most valuable thing to Fedora composes ever, casual > contributors who only work on packaging should never have to care > about it. > You should reavaluate importance of composes. Without a compose no package

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-18 Thread Tomas Hrcka
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 5:35 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 04:13:44PM +0100, Tomas Hrcka napsal(a): > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:09 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > > > Having the dist-git retirement as a primary source of truth has the > problem > > > that you need to clone a dist-git

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:29 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > It stores the metadata of all composes that have been run, ever. (Well, > when there isn't a bug in the sync, anyway). This is useful in several > ways: [snip] I think a lot of the Fedora infrastructure complexity and difficulty

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 12:34 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Where is the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, > roads, a fresh water system, and public health that the PDC have done for us? > > > Serious question: Why do we need PDC? What actual problems does it

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 04:13:44PM +0100, Tomas Hrcka napsal(a): > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:09 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > > Having the dist-git retirement as a primary source of truth has the problem > > that you need to clone a dist-git branch to get the data. And then for each > > package you are

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Tomas Hrcka
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:09 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:34:52PM +0100, Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > > What has the PDC [1] ever done for us? It only bough pain and misery to > me > > for no apparent benefit. > > > > > > 1) When we retire packages in dist-git, PDC creates

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Petr Pisar
V Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:34:52PM +0100, Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > What has the PDC [1] ever done for us? It only bough pain and misery to me > for no apparent benefit. > > > 1) When we retire packages in dist-git, PDC creates another layer of delay > between dist-git and Koji and another place

Re: What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 17. 03. 22 v 12:34 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): Where is the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health that the PDC have done for us? ABRT uses PDC to (automaticaly) determine which release is active, what Fedora versions

What has the PDC ever done for us?

2022-03-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello Fedora packagers. What has the PDC [1] ever done for us? It only bough pain and misery to me for no apparent benefit. 1) When we retire packages in dist-git, PDC creates another layer of delay between dist-git and Koji and another place when synchronization regularly breaks.