Re: Battery losing charge while off [Devel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 63]

2012-06-01 Thread Richard Smith
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: On 05/24/2012 11:59 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: laptop serial number.   Was it a pre-production XO-1 ? Both XO-1s used to test the battery are C2 machines #CSH7470023EA #SHF80701C99 The

Re: First pass of 11.3.1 release notes

2012-06-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Manuel Kaufmann humi...@gmail.com wrote: In this page [1] says that the release date for 12.1.0 is on 2 July 2012 and for 11.3.1 is on 1 May 2012. I think that we should change that :) [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes Well, 11.3.1 missed all its

Re: 11.3.1 release candidate 2 (build 885) released

2012-06-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.05.2012, at 22:26, Martin Langhoff wrote: We're pleased to announce our second release candidate of our 11.3.1 software release. This RC supports XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75. Information and installation instructions can be found here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.1

Fwd: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Esteban Arias
Hi, I have created image for XO-1.0 with gnome and XO-1.5 (2GB) with gnome. but, XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 ¿?¿?¿?¿? Do you know why? *XO-1.0*: df -H S.ficheros Size Used Avail Use% Montado en /dev/root 1,1G 581M 494M 55% / tmpfs

Re: Fwd: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Fri, Jun 01 2012, Esteban Arias wrote: Hi, I have created image for XO-1.0 with gnome and XO-1.5 (2GB) with gnome. but, XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 ¿?¿?¿?¿? Do you know why?  Because the 1.3GB XO-1.5 image wouldn't fit on the 1.0GB XO-1 flash. I think that, for example,

Re: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Hi, I have created image for XO-1.0 with gnome and XO-1.5 (2GB) with gnome. but, XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 ¿?¿?¿?¿? Do you know why? The XO-1 filesystem (jffs2) compresses its files, and the XO-1.5

Re: Fwd: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Fri, Jun 01 2012, Esteban Arias wrote: I have the same activities. And this difference packages: Ah. Well, one difference will be that jffs2 uses compression and ext3 doesn't, but I wasn't expecting that to account for such a large change. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org

Re: Fwd: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Esteban Arias
Can I compress for XO-1.5 ? 2012/6/1 Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Hi, On Fri, Jun 01 2012, Esteban Arias wrote: I have the same activities. And this difference packages: Ah. Well, one difference will be that jffs2 uses compression and ext3 doesn't, but I wasn't expecting that to account

Re: Fwd: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Can I compress for XO-1.5 ? If you switch to a filesystem that supports it, yes. btrfs would be one option. Note that this will kill performance. Daniel ___ Devel mailing

Re: Fwd: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Fri, Jun 01 2012, Daniel Drake wrote: Can I compress for XO-1.5 ? If you switch to a filesystem that supports it, yes. btrfs would be one option. Note that this will kill performance. And reliability. :-) (Before Linux 3.4, btrfs' preferred method of dealing with a detected

Re: XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 with the same software

2012-06-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Esteban Arias ear...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: but, XO-1.5 image has more size than XO-1.0 ¿?¿?¿?¿? Do you know why? As others have pointed out, compression is the difference. The build usually creates a .tar.lzma file, you can compare the size of the tar.lzma

Re: Battery losing charge while off [Devel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 63]

2012-06-01 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 06/01/2012 10:12 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Done See attached screenshot. I don't see anything that looks obviously wrong. So here's a test to see if the EC is going to sleep or not. Run the battery down to where the red LED is active. Then power off the laptop. If the EC goes

Re: XO battery/performance

2012-06-01 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 05/30/2012 03:34 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: If you want an idea of low-level performance, I can suggest running LMBench. Got the Debian lmbench_3.0-a7 source that compiles and runs fine w/o bitkeeper. Run the hardware part of the tests on the XO-1.5 (os880) and xo-1.75 (os12-

Re: XO battery/performance

2012-06-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: On 05/30/2012 03:34 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Most of the test had empty values but the informative ones (below) show that the XO-1.5 is better in basic integer operations and memory bandwidth while the

Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread forster
We should test the calibration again. Walter, Guzman Testing with TA140 It looks like the 1.75 audio circuit was changed between the preproduction and the ramp unit 1.75's Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone from 1k to 4k and the calibration is all wrong on 204 (TA

Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread James Cameron
Thanks for testing, this sounds interesting. On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 11:24:45AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: We should test the calibration again. Walter, Guzman Testing with TA140 It looks like the 1.75 audio circuit was changed between the preproduction and the ramp unit

Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread forster
Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone from 1k to 4k and the calibration is all wrong on 204 Possibility of damage? How are you measuring this, so that I can reproduce on units that I believe are undamaged? Are you measuring DC impedance with laptop power off, or on?

Recent XO-1 OFW had difficulty reading USB stick

2012-06-01 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
DISCLAIMER: I am not asking for help; I'm just sharing my experiences. With q2f11.rom on one of my vintage-1997 XO-1s, I could __not__ install ('copy-nand') os12 (12.1.0) from an USB stick -- sooner or later OFW always stopped on a file read error. I finally flashed q2f05.rom to that

Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:36:08PM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone from 1k to 4k and the calibration is all wrong on 204 Possibility of damage? How are you measuring this, so that I can reproduce on units that I believe are

typos fixed on firmware page

2012-06-01 Thread Kevin Gordon
I changed the XO1.5 firmware section on the wiki firmware page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware#XO-1.5 for the top two entries from 'Q4' to 'Q3'. The links were for Q3, but the text said 'Q4'. I think it was a typo. If not, please change back. Cheers, KG

Re: Recent XO-1 OFW had difficulty reading USB stick

2012-06-01 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:58:09PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: p.s. I also tried q2f11jb.rom - and nearly bricked the XO-1 (I do not have security deactivated). I'm curious, why do you have security enabled? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

Re: Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread forster
Thanks The turtle code is forever print voltage Could you please explain how to do this? I've not used Turtle Art, so don't presume any foreknowledge. look at the blocks submenu, the 4th item from the left in the main menu look at the 'flow operators' pallette the 5th item in the submenu,

Re: XO battery/performance [Devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 4]

2012-06-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
  Most of the test had empty values but the informative ones (below) show that the XO-1.5 is better in basic integer operations and memory bandwidth while the XO-1.75 is better in float and double operations as well as in memory latency. I'm not sure how much this means for real life

Re: Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread forster
James I think I have eliminated software differences. Both laptops reflashed to OS8 (12.1.0) Turtle Blocks V141 ( a new version is just released) Phono plug with left-right-ground all shorted forever print voltage displays: 0VSKU199 -1.3V SKU204 Tony

Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:24 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: We should test the calibration again. Walter, Guzman Testing with TA140 It looks like the 1.75 audio circuit was changed between the preproduction and the ramp unit 1.75's Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone

Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage

2012-06-01 Thread forster
Wad, thanks, Tony On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:24 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: We should test the calibration again. Walter, Guzman Testing with TA140 It looks like the 1.75 audio circuit was changed between the preproduction and the ramp unit 1.75's Testing on SKU199 and