[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi All: I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this discussion does not impact the UI and more of a packaging issue I'm an not creating a Features page. The discussion can take place here on the mailing-li

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the > 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this > discussion does not impact the UI and more of a packaging issue I'm an > not creating a Features page.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: >> I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the >> 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this >> discussion does not impact the UI and more o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: >> I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the >> 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this >> discussion does not impact the UI and more o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-29 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 00:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > >> I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the > >> 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 00:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: >> >> I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-30 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 10:14 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 00:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > >> >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 30 July 2012 23:26, Jerry Vonau wrote: > The idea works well for users of Dextrose where OLPC-AU as a deployment > could omit features that are still under development and not show the > icon the control-panel at all. I'm not asking for anything to be > removed, just packaged and made available

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-01 Thread John Gilmore
> We use yum to provide automatic updates to our XOs in the field, and > we must be mindful that large RPMs can have an impact on the school's > Internet connection. If 400 XOs need to download a ~800KB Sugar RPM, > that's 320MB being downloaded, potentially at the same time. Isn't there a cachein

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-01 Thread James Cameron
For deployments that eschew servers, a caching proxy won't help. But on the other hand, sharing the updates across a bunch of XOs might be possible using a torrent-like implementation. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > On 30 July 2012 23:26, Jerry Vonau wrote: >> The idea works well for users of Dextrose where OLPC-AU as a deployment >> could omit features that are still under development and not show the >> icon the control-panel at all. I'm not askin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:04 AM, James Cameron wrote: > For deployments that eschew servers, a caching proxy won't help. But > on the other hand, sharing the updates across a bunch of XOs might be > possible using a torrent-like implementation. Facebook uses torrents to distribute their rpm and w

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-02 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 09:53 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan > wrote: > > On 30 July 2012 23:26, Jerry Vonau wrote: > >> The idea works well for users of Dextrose where OLPC-AU as a deployment > >> could omit features that are still under developme

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-09 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 2 August 2012 21:06, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 09:53 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Do you have any form of proxy? A local transparent proxy would mean >> 400 XOs still only download 800Kb over the link. There's lots of ways >> to skin a cat. >> > > We have no control over the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-10 Thread John Gilmore
> > We have no control over the network environment what so ever and need to > > work within the confines of what is available. > > This is our primary constraint: we cannot install servers or proxies. > > Schools in remote areas have latent/slow/expensive Internet links. > You'd think that a cac

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-10 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 15:28 -0700, John Gilmore wrote: > > > We have no control over the network environment what so ever and need to > > > work within the confines of what is available. > > > > This is our primary constraint: we cannot install servers or proxies. > > > > Schools in remote areas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-08-12 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 11 August 2012 08:28, John Gilmore wrote: >> > We have no control over the network environment what so ever and need to >> > work within the confines of what is available. >> >> This is our primary constraint: we cannot install servers or proxies. >> >> Schools in remote areas have latent/slow/

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-10-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Hi All: > > I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the > 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this > discussion does not impact the UI and more of a packaging issue I'm an > not creating a Fea

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-10-04 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 21:29 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > Hi All: > > > > I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the > > 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this > > discussion does not im