Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi Simon, Marco, Eben et al, I think the key decision is to default the frame on or off. In addition we should have a long term vision for the frame. For example, is it a short cut to find things or a first place to look for key features? The only key feature I have heard so far is copy and paste

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread Carol Lerche
Considering that a whole key on the key board is dedicated to the frame, why not use one of its meta modes (shift, alt) to be the toggle for default off/on of the corner sensitivity? On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Simon, Marco, Eben et al,

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Simon, Marco, Eben et al, > > I think the key decision is to default the frame on or off. In addition > we should have a long term vision for the frame. For example, is it a > short cut to find things or a first

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Simon, Marco, Eben et al, >> >> I think the key decision is to default the frame on or off. In addition >> we should have a lo

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread John R . Hogerhuis
Eben Eliason gmail.com> writes: > Right. I think this is the biggest point of conflict between my own > thoughts for solving the issues and those of the community providing > feedback about it. I certainly take the comments regarding accidental > invocation seriously, and seriously want to do wh

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Saturday 17 May 2008 5:26:06 pm John R.Hogerhuis wrote: > One possible idea: rather than popping up the frame when near the edge, pop > up a translucent overlay in key places that looks just like the keyboard > frame key. If the user clicks on it, then bring up the whole frame. I had been ponde

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread david
On Sat, 17 May 2008, John R.Hogerhuis wrote: > Eben Eliason gmail.com> writes: >> Right. I think this is the biggest point of conflict between my own >> thoughts for solving the issues and those of the community providing >> feedback about it. I certainly take the comments regarding accidental

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 17 May 2008 5:26:06 pm John R.Hogerhuis wrote: >> One possible idea: rather than popping up the frame when near the edge, pop >> up a translucent overlay in key places that looks just like the keyboard >> frame ke

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:26 AM, John R. Hogerhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben Eliason gmail.com> writes: >> Right. I think this is the biggest point of conflict between my own >> thoughts for solving the issues and those of the community providing >> feedback about it. I certainly take th

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 May 2008, at 04:45, Eben Eliason wrote: > This is actually a very promising idea indeed. I think this merits > some exploration for sure, and save the delay miraculously pleasing > everyone, something we should definitely try in the near future. > Someone mentioned this could be hard withou

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:26 AM, John R. Hogerhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Indeed. My other /suspicion/ (could be completely wrong, I admit!) is > that it's frequently bumped "in passing". That is, the cursor briefly

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Do the 'frame reveal corner arrows' only appear when you hit the corners, > or when your mouse is over the corner area (discoverability)? > What is the difference between hit the corner/over the corner area? What I was

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-18 Thread Karl Ramberg
John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - Do the 'frame reveal corner arrows' only appear when you hit the corners, >> or when your mouse is over the corner area (discoverability)? >> >> > > What is the difference between hi