Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-03 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Hi, before Nokia collapsed it could happen to get daily 30+ USD from Vserv ads with a not so big JTME application portfolio... So, it is more promising than the donation model then... :) Br, Zoltan 2016-06-02 22:22 GMT+02:00 Matthias Fehring : > My experiences

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread Matthias Fehring
My experiences with donations: Many talk about but only really few do really donate. But this few mostly donates more as I would charge for selling the app. For example, I had ocNews as paid app in the Ovi Store for Meego and I think it was in a price range of 1,99€ for Germany (other

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread Dylan Van Assche
I receive donations from 1/100 users... I was also planning to change to inApp Payments... Dylan Original Message Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join Local Time: June 2, 2016 8:27 PM UTC Time: June 2, 2016 6:27 PM From

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-06-02 Thread george b
Some experiences from me as a former iOS Developer: - With a good payed app, one can earn a some money - A free app with InApp Payment for more features leads to more revenue on my apps - iAd leads to almost no revenue. On iOS one need several thousends of App installations to get just a little

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread zoltan . lutor
I've tried to contact them already - even for getting invokved with the development. No reaction so far... Camil Bancioiu írta ekkor: 2016.05.31. 11:55 Hello Zoltan, I hope you will find help with your SDK. Not because I like ads (I don't), but because the platform is free, and everybody

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
@Tone: Definitely it would be good to have some! But it is out of my reach ATM... :) I go for ads ATM - willingness to join? 2016-05-31 11:16 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger : > @ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal > / Flattr / Bitcoin /

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Tone Kastlunger
@ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal / Flattr / Bitcoin / younameit! On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Zoltán Lutor wrote: > @Tone: "with my app where I had included ads" - what ad library do you > use on Sailfish? > I was not aware

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
@Tone: "with my app where I had included ads" - what ad library do you use on Sailfish? I was not aware of anything available there. Especially nothing for Qt/QML... 2016-05-31 8:58 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger : > This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Yes, My preferred choice would also be IAp - but that is non-exsitent in Sailfish. On the other hand advertisement has its own place in monetization chain, too. the problem is when it is used in crazy, clueless way - as it is nowadays in general... But here it comes the positive example in our

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Zoltán Lutor
Hi, It is a good feature candidate then in this 'sdk' - we can built in donation via e.g. PayPal and if that happened, no ads will be shown any more... Thx for the idea... If you added it as an issue to the BitBucket project you could track the progress it in the future! Br, Zoltan 2016-05-31

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Andrew Branson
On 31/05/2016 9:36 am, Tone Kastlunger wrote: A better approach would be a toolkit for unlocking extra/full functionality through easy donations/micropayments. There was already a suggestion in a community meeting to implement the Qt Purchasing API for this, as an alternative >to paid store

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Tone Kastlunger
>A better approach would be a toolkit for unlocking extra/full functionality through easy donations/micropayments. There was already a suggestion in a community meeting to implement the Qt Purchasing API for this, as an alternative >to paid store apps (which I also disagree with because of the

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Andrew Branson
I don't think ad experiences on Android is be relevant elsewhere. Android is an ad-saturated platform - it's become so easy to put ads in Android apps that its users have either become desensitized to them, or they've taken steps to disable them. They breed contempt in the developer for their

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Martin Kolman
Tue, 31 May 2016 07:13:33 + Peter Kovacs: Ads are a classic earn design. As buying an App. Some Open Source enthusiasts are oppose these ways. And you find them in the Jolla Platform, because jolla is much closer to these idealistic views then Apple or Android. I personally don't not

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Peter Kovacs
Ads are a classic earn design. As buying an App. Some Open Source enthusiasts are oppose these ways. And you find them in the Jolla Platform, because jolla is much closer to these idealistic views then Apple or Android. I personally don't not mind Ads, if I can switch them off for a

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-31 Thread Tone Kastlunger
This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very clear aspect of the key problem of SFOS at the moment - the whole point of SFOS is to DIFFERENTIATE itself from android. Note : I love coding for SFOS, it's inspiring and motivating. Sure, it has it's limitations and quirks, but

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread zoltan . lutor
Yes, that is how it is. Paid model does not work for masses - maybe iOS is exception to some extent... I fully understand those who are fed up with annoying ads - just like me, too. But it does not imply ads are evil as such. Just they have to be placed carefully and accordingly... Anyway, I

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Andrew Penkrat
I want to add my experience from the developer's point of view. I have an Android app with about 1000 installations (and 100 active users). This app has ads as well as an option to disable them for a $2 donation. Nobody ever activated this option. So most probably I won't be able to get any

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Martin Kolman
Mon, 30 May 2016 19:32:54 + Alexey Andreyev: Hello, Zoltán! :) Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) I subscribe to this - while I understand developers are looking for revenue streams I really like how current native Sailfish OS apps are pretty much add free

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
ts.sailfishos.org> Отправлено: 31.05.2016 1:32:54 Тема: Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join Hello, Zoltán! :) Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for donations / create n

Re: [SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

2016-05-30 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello, Zoltán! :) Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :) I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for donations / create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all. (Espesially with additional web engine module loaded eating my resources) Again, this is just