Re: [freenet-dev] the new bottleneck

2003-07-11 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Friday 11 July 2003 02:57 pm, Toad wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:02:41AM -0500, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > > On Friday 11 July 2003 09:32 am, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > > > On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:34 am, Toad wrote: > > > > Please try build 5008, it has significant changes in this area. > > >

[freenet-dev] Browser downloads don't work

2003-07-11 Thread palomitas
Downloading through the browser does not work, i.e. "Write directly to disk rather than sending to browser" is disabled. It always stops with the message "Download aborted. The client dropped the connection, the Freenet request timed out, or it was manually cancelled." after some time. Writing d

Re: [freenet-dev] Default bandwidth limits?

2003-07-11 Thread Todd Walton
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Toad wrote: > Is 256kbps uplink a lot more common than 128kbps? I have DSL, I'm in the US, and I've got 256k. -todd ___ devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] [palomitas@hushmail.com: [freenet-support] sfRequestRetries=1000 too big, using: 10]

2003-07-11 Thread palomitas
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:17:16 -0700 Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think we should allow at least 50 retries, Recently I had to retry 20 times to finally get the file, so that 20*10=200 retries were needed for the last block... >because once the file has been successfully downloaded once >it

[freenet-dev] Minor change, please?

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
Could you reduce the default VM size to 128M? It appears to be enough on recent code, with fairly heavy use and some tweaked settings (more threads, more connections - what was your loglevel?), according to Iakin. I am changing it in start-freenet.sh. Thanks. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTE

[freenet-dev] [palomitas@hushmail.com: [freenet-support] sfRequestRetries=1000 too big, using: 10]

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
I think we should allow at least 50 retries, because once the file has been successfully downloaded once it should come through a lot faster for everyone else. The opposing argument is that we need to avoid overloading the network - but other clients will do it if it gets the files faster anyway. W

Re: [freenet-dev] Default bandwidth limits?

2003-07-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
Toad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Is 256kbps uplink a lot more common than 128kbps? In my country (UK) the > low end cable deals have 128kbps up, which would suggest a default bwlimit > of 8kB/sec, however DSL is all 256kbps. The majority of cable modem service in the USA is 128 kbps, from what

[freenet-dev] More about memory useage

2003-07-11 Thread Niklas Bergh
With -Xmx128mb configured: Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit)719 (441/278/750) Connections transferring (Receiving/Transmitting)127 (38/89) Bytes waiting to be sent31 MiB Maximum memory the JVM will allocate192 MiB Memory currently allocated by the JVM130,112 KiB Memory in use115,882,080

Re: [freenet-dev] Default bandwidth limits?

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
Is 256kbps uplink a lot more common than 128kbps? In my country (UK) the low end cable deals have 128kbps up, which would suggest a default bwlimit of 8kB/sec, however DSL is all 256kbps. Reports on the situation in the US are varied... more information is required. The problem is that if the bwli

[freenet-dev] Windows installer, bandwidth settings - ideas

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
We need to do something about bandwidth limits, or users will make their nodes transient if they ever get some query load. How is this currently handled in the Windows installer? We need it to ask the user what type of connection it has: * Modem - no limits, but set transient=true * Broadband: Uplo

Re: [freenet-dev] the new bottleneck

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:02:41AM -0500, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > On Friday 11 July 2003 09:32 am, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > > On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:34 am, Toad wrote: > > > Please try build 5008, it has significant changes in this area. > > > > No change. > > I tried switching to Blackdown. Tha

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Dave Hooper wrote: > > Ok, I am getting "download of jre-win32-latest.exe failed" errors, if I > > wasn't at the end of a slow modem I might try to fix it myself, but > > since I am can someone look into it? > > Oh, shit. Looks like the symbolic link is p

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Toad
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Dave Hooper wrote: > > Ok, I am getting "download of jre-win32-latest.exe failed" errors, if I > > wasn't at the end of a slow modem I might try to fix it myself, but > > since I am can someone look into it? > > Oh, shit. Looks like the symbolic link is p

[freenet-dev] Re: Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Michael Schierl
> ln jre-win32-latest.exe to > point to j2re-1_4_1_03-windows-i586-i.exe Erm, latest one for win is 1.4.2. Or does that one have any problems w/ freenet? Michael ___ devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailm

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Nick Tarleton
On Friday 11 July 2003 09:07 am, Dave Hooper wrote: > > There are the docs, and I'm actually as we speak in the process of making > > an installer for an unstable version. > > That's a good idea, as in introduction to building installers, and useful > in the short term as it provides an easy way fo

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Dave Hooper
> Well, I know how the NSIS system works already, so that's a bonus. I'm > just having a mite of trouble with the Modern UI code, be fixed in a > jiffy. How about letting us know what problems you're encountering trying to build - that's one of the purposes of the mailing list (devl@) after all!

Re: [freenet-dev] Default bandwidth limits?

2003-07-11 Thread Frank v Waveren
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 10:25:58PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On a related note, it's very difficult to use firewall queueing > facilities to manage Freenet bandwidth, because by its very design > Freenet traffic tries to avoid being easily tagged. If anyone has > any suggestions on how to tell

Re: [freenet-dev] the new bottleneck

2003-07-11 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Friday 11 July 2003 09:32 am, Tom Kaitchuck wrote: > On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:34 am, Toad wrote: > > Please try build 5008, it has significant changes in this area. > > No change. I tried switching to Blackdown. That did result in less CPU form the VM, but the "read selector loop" still gen

Re: [freenet-dev] the new bottleneck

2003-07-11 Thread Tom Kaitchuck
On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:34 am, Toad wrote: > Please try build 5008, it has significant changes in this area. No change. ___ devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Erendil
Well, I know how the NSIS system works already, so that's a bonus. I'm just having a mite of trouble with the Modern UI code, be fixed in a jiffy. As for making the version selection available, yes, that would be extra infrastructure, but maybe not too much. Depends on how it's done. Yarr, this i

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Dave Hooper
> There are the docs, and I'm actually as we speak in the process of making > an installer for an unstable version. That's a good idea, as in introduction to building installers, and useful in the short term as it provides an easy way for Windows users to try out unstable versions. In the long te

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Erendil
Well, I'd do that, but I'd rather make sure I can still get a working build of of this thing. We'll know in about 20 minutes, though. After that, I'll agree.

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Ian Clarke
Perhaps you should be coordinating with Dave to avoid duplicated effort? On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 08:37:35AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >There are the docs, and I'm actually as we speak in the process of >making an installer for an unstable version. -- Ian Clarke

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Erendil
There are the docs, and I'm actually as we speak in the process of making an installer for an unstable version.

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Dave Hooper
> Done. Thanks Ian. > Perhaps if you provided a quick introduction to Windows installer > hacking it would make it easier for someone to pick it up (ie. what > files need changing, how do you build a new installer, useful reference > urls etc). > > Ian. Sure. Are there not "how to build" docs i

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows Installer and Java versions

2003-07-11 Thread Dave Hooper
> Where are the scripts used to build the installer - are they in CVS? Contrib/wininstall/ somewhere The installer is called "freenet-modern.nsi", you'll need the *.ico files too. It requires NSIS (free download from www.nullsoft.com), and also required the native Win32 build of upx being in PATH

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Erendil
Yarr...Don't we need the installer script files so we can rebuild it? I thought we used the...nullsoft one. Right? Haven't used that in so long, but it's not hard to use.

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Ian Clarke
> Oh, shit. Looks like the symbolic link is pointing to nowhere for some > reason. > Could someone with access to sftp go in to shell.sourceforge.net and cd to > /home/groups/f/fr/freenet/htdocs/snapshots and ln jre-win32-latest.exe to > point to j2re-1_4_1_03-windows-i586-i.exe Done. > ... Stil

Re: [freenet-dev] Default bandwith limits?

2003-07-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
This is what my traffic looks like, with two Freenet nodes and one giFT daemon. All that incoming traffic is Freenet's. The outgoing is a healthy mixture of both Freenet and giFT, and it totally saturates my outbound bandwidth. This is absolutely typical usage. -- Greg Wooledge

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Dave Hooper
> Ok, I am getting "download of jre-win32-latest.exe failed" errors, if I > wasn't at the end of a slow modem I might try to fix it myself, but > since I am can someone look into it? Oh, shit. Looks like the symbolic link is pointing to nowhere for some reason. Could someone with access to sftp g

RE: [freenet-dev] Windows Installer and Java versions

2003-07-11 Thread Niklas Bergh
Hmm.. I added some code yesterday to catch this and have fred print a better message instead of the stacktrace. The build you where using is older that that I hope? If not then please tell me so I can repair whatever it is that isn't working /N > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows Installer and Java versions

2003-07-11 Thread Ian Clarke
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:58:37PM +0100, Dave Hooper wrote: > That'll be me then Where are the scripts used to build the installer - are they in CVS? Using wine it may even be possible to automatically rebuild the installer on hawk (which is running Linux). Ian. -- Ian Clarke

[freenet-dev] typo on gateway page

2003-07-11 Thread Ian Clarke
"Using this software may be illegal under some jurisdiction." Should be "jurisdictions" Ian. -- Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coordinator, The Freenet Project http://freenetproject.org/ Founder, Locutus

Re: [freenet-dev] Windows Installer and Java versions

2003-07-11 Thread Dave Hooper
That'll be me then Your commentary pretty much agrees what I said in this morning's email... java detection in the installer is rubbish and has been for a very, very long time. The fix is to have the wininstaller only look for 1.4(.x) keys, which I can do as soon as I have access (tomorrow mornin

[freenet-dev] Windows installer

2003-07-11 Thread Ian Clarke
Ok, I am getting "download of jre-win32-latest.exe failed" errors, if I wasn't at the end of a slow modem I might try to fix it myself, but since I am can someone look into it? Also, the modal dialogs which ask about whether to download seednodes among other things should really be replaced by r

[freenet-dev] Windows Installer and Java versions

2003-07-11 Thread Ian Clarke
I just tried to install Freenet on Windows and got the following error in the Logfile: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java/nio/channels/spi/AbstractInterruptibleChannel at freenet.node.Node.init(Node.java:1801) at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:314) Turns out that the comput

Re: [freenet-dev] Default bandwidth limits?

2003-07-11 Thread Ben Hawes
>A possibility would be for the rabbit icon to have 3 settings: >* Disable throttling, use all available bandwidth >* The default, throttle to half link speed >* Throttle to one quarter of link speed >Thoughts? This seems the sanest way to go, at least for windows users, which it sounds like we're