On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> Really? ?I don't see much functionality that fits that description.
>> Sure, the advanced mode config and stats pages get rather long. ?But
>> surely implementing those is no harder than implementing the simple
>> mode ones.
>
> There is a lot
you've made, and
at no point have I said that my mind is made up on anything. You are the
one bringing the discussion to a close but you want to make it my fault.
Sorry, but I'm wise to such passive aggressive rhetorical tactics :-)
Ian.
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> >> Really? I don't see much functionality that fits that description.
>> >> Sure, the advanced mode config and stats pages get r
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> I've said everything I have to say on the specifics: I think FProxy is
>> in need of an overhaul, I think input from someone who actually knows
>> how to design UIs would be wonderful, a
Am Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2010 18:21:44 schrieb Martin 'The Bishop'
Scheffler:
> hello freenetters,
>
> i intend to write an external tool to request and insert raw keys, very
> much like the KeyExplorer does inside the node.
>
> I've overlooked the FCPv2 documentation, but found no clue.
> so
to form an opinion on it. Most user interfaces are at a very
late stage of the design process before you can actually interact with them.
Ian.
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ust values), corrupted databases, etc.
> > Just start over clean.
>
> Fair enough, I guess its like removing a bandaid, best to do it soon and
> fast.
>
Yes. I'm working on it.
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Hey all
I'm looking for feedback regarding browser picking policy on Windows.
At the moment, we do:
Maintain a list of registry paths and common program locations of
various browsers. These are prioritized according to whether they
support incognito mode and how their security is rated in gene
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Martin 'The Bishop' Scheffler
wrote:
> On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:30:06 bo-le wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2010 18:21:44 schrieb Martin 'The Bishop'
>>
>> Scheffler:
>> > hello freenetters,
>> >
>> > i intend to write an external tool to request and in
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> > Starting work and asking for input was?precisely?what I did in the email
>> > that started this entire thread.
>>
>> My impression from later messages in the thread was that when peopl
al trust values), corrupted databases, etc. Just start over
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> >> Really? I don't see much functionality that fits that description.
> >> Sure, the advanced mode config and stats pages get rather long. But
> >> surely implementing those is no harder
ave ideas and opinions voice
> them. Don't worry, when I have something I think is productive to
> add, I'll do so.
Well, did you like the original PDF I posted? Do you think its the right
direction? Is there anything in it you would have done differently?
I'm just getting mixed messages. Some people say "oh, a mock-up is
insufficient for us to form an opinion". Others are criticizing me for
being dictatorial and moving too fast.
Ian.
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> Really? I don't see much functionality that fits that description.
>> Sure, the advanced mode config and stats pages get rather long. But
>> surely implementing those is no harder than implementing the simple
>> mode ones.
>
> There is a lot
> I don't know how to be more clear: I don't know. Just as I probably
> wouldn't be able to tell you whether I liked a painting from a
> description of it, I don't know how to tell you whether I like a UI
> without actually clicking on it. I don't see anything obviously
> objectionable. I think
rious about wanting to hear your wife's words directly. It
> would be helpful to be able to distinguish your ideas and opinions
> from hers.
I don't think she has any interest in discussing anything other than
feedback on the proposed redesign. Certainly she has absolutely no i
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> I've said everything I have to say on the specifics: I think FProxy is
>> in need of an overhaul, I think input from someone who actually knows
>> how to design UIs would be wonderful, a
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> I've said everything I have to say on the specifics: I think FProxy is
> in need of an overhaul, I think input from someone who actually knows
> how to design UIs would be wonderful, and I see nothing obviously
> objectionable in the mockup.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Martin 'The Bishop' Scheffler
wrote:
> On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:30:06 bo-le wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2010 18:21:44 schrieb Martin 'The Bishop'
>>
>> Scheffler:
>> > hello freenetters,
>> >
>> > i intend to write an external tool to request and in
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> > Starting work and asking for input was precisely what I did in the email
>> > that started this entire thread.
>>
>> My impression from later messages in the thread was that when peopl
Ian Clarke skrev:
> Normally stuff only gets done with
> Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it. Sitting around waiting
> for permission rarely gets anything done.
I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive supp
On 02/11/2010 04:25 PM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3) wrote:
> I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
> bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback
> and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant
> atmosphere..
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> > Starting work and asking for input was precisely what I did in the email
> > that started this entire thread.
>
> My impression from later messages in the thread was that when people
> had comments, you tended to overrule them or dismiss th
On Thursday 11 February 2010 21:30:06 bo-le wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2010 18:21:44 schrieb Martin 'The Bishop'
>
> Scheffler:
> > hello freenetters,
> >
> > i intend to write an external tool to request and insert raw keys, very
> > much like the KeyExplorer does inside the node.
> >
>
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> > I'm sorry if it appears that way, but this has been discussed
>> > on-and-off for quite a long time. ?Normally stuff only gets
a bandaid, best to do it soon and
fast.
Ian.
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> > I'm sorry if it appears that way, but this has been discussed
>> > on-and-off for quite a long time. Normally stuff only gets
On 02/11/2010 01:06 PM, Ximin Luo wrote:
> On 02/10/2010 08:46 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>>> And before you say I'm a developer, I don't know anything about UI, IMHO
>>> that is the wrong attitude. Most UI is created by developers, and we need to
>>> improve our skills at it.
>>
>> We've had almost a d
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3)
wrote:
> Ian Clarke skrev:
>>
>> Normally stuff only gets done with
>> Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it. ?Sitting around waiting
>> for permission rarely gets anything done.
>
> I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should
On 02/10/2010 08:46 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> And before you say I'm a developer, I don't know anything about UI, IMHO
>> that is the wrong attitude. Most UI is created by developers, and we need to
>> improve our skills at it.
>
>
> We've had almost a decade to test our UI skills with Freenet, th
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> I think having professional UI design help on Freenet would be
>> wonderful. ?It's obviously something most of us are bad at.
>>
>> I
Am Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2010 18:21:44 schrieb Martin 'The Bishop'
Scheffler:
> hello freenetters,
>
> i intend to write an external tool to request and insert raw keys, very
> much like the KeyExplorer does inside the node.
>
> I've overlooked the FCPv2 documentation, but found no clue.
> so
uggested that she join in, but she isn't a huge fan of the
rough-and-tumble of Freenet's mailing lists. Hopefully she will.
Ian.
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;-)
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On Thursday 11 February 2010 20:41:23 Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:22 PM, xor wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 February 2010 17:46:31 Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > What is the benefit of doing a purge? I hope you're not doing it just
> > > because you said you would, rather than for some conc
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:22 PM, xor wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 February 2010 17:46:31 Ian Clarke wrote:
> > What is the benefit of doing a purge? I hope you're not doing it just
> > because you said you would, rather than for some concrete technical
> reason.
>
>
> To get rid of all the mess in th
Hey all
I'm looking for feedback regarding browser picking policy on Windows.
At the moment, we do:
Maintain a list of registry paths and common program locations of
various browsers. These are prioritized according to whether they
support incognito mode and how their security is rated in gen
On Wednesday 10 February 2010 17:46:31 Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:13 AM, xor wrote:
> > Because we will have a message-purge of Freetalk when leaving the beta
> > phase (this was always said in a big red box on the Freetalk web
> > interface so please do not complain) we should
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > I'm sorry if it appears that way, but this has been discussed
> > on-and-off for quite a long time. Normally stuff only gets done with
> > Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3)
wrote:
> Ian Clarke skrev:
>>
>> Normally stuff only gets done with
>> Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it. Sitting around waiting
>> for permission rarely gets anything done.
>
> I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ximin Luo wrote:
> On 02/11/2010 04:25 PM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3) wrote:
> > I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
> > bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback
> > and code back from the c
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I think having professional UI design help on Freenet would be
> wonderful. ?It's obviously something most of us are bad at.
>
> Is she going to be available to support the code in the longe
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> I think having professional UI design help on Freenet would be
>> wonderful. It's obviously something most of us are bad at.
>>
>> I
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ximin Luo wrote:
>> from a project co-ordination point of view, you're going to need to bring in
>> someone specially (GSoC?) to do a UI overhaul.
>
> My wife, who is a UI designer, has volunteered (she is "pupo
hello freenetters,
i intend to write an external tool to request and insert raw keys, very much
like the KeyExplorer does inside the node.
I've overlooked the FCPv2 documentation, but found no clue.
so, how do i get access to the raw data - without redirects, manifests et al?
good byte
signat
On 02/11/2010 04:25 PM, Christian Funder Sommerlund (Zero3) wrote:
> I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
> bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support, feedback
> and code back from the community if we could create a more... pleasant
> atmosphere..
Ian Clarke skrev:
Normally stuff only gets done with
Freenet when someone goes ahead and does it. Sitting around waiting
for permission rarely gets anything done.
I couldn't agree more. Maybe we should figure out how to improve this
bad habbit? I think we would get a lot more positive support
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ximin Luo wrote:
> from a project co-ordination point of view, you're going to need to bring in
> someone specially (GSoC?) to do a UI overhaul.
My wife, who is a UI designer, has volunteered (she is "pupok" on FreeNode).
> it's not going to work well if
> you ex
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> I think having professional UI design help on Freenet would be
> wonderful. It's obviously something most of us are bad at.
>
> Is she going to be available to support the code in the longe
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ximin Luo wrote:
>> from a project co-ordination point of view, you're going to need to bring in
>> someone specially (GSoC?) to do a UI overhaul.
>
> My wife, who is a UI designer, has volunteered (she is "pupo
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ximin Luo wrote:
> from a project co-ordination point of view, you're going to need to bring in
> someone specially (GSoC?) to do a UI overhaul.
My wife, who is a UI designer, has volunteered (she is "pupok" on FreeNode).
> it's not going to work well if
> you ex
On 02/11/2010 01:06 PM, Ximin Luo wrote:
> On 02/10/2010 08:46 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>>> And before you say I'm a developer, I don't know anything about UI, IMHO
>>> that is the wrong attitude. Most UI is created by developers, and we need to
>>> improve our skills at it.
>>
>> We've had almost a d
On 02/10/2010 08:46 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> And before you say I'm a developer, I don't know anything about UI, IMHO
>> that is the wrong attitude. Most UI is created by developers, and we need to
>> improve our skills at it.
>
>
> We've had almost a decade to test our UI skills with Freenet, th
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