Do you know if someone has created a (small) C++/D - like language designed to
work with a Hindley-Milner type inference algorithm (using it for something
useful)?
Days ago I was thinking about how much good it may come from giving such type
system to D2, but I don't how it can interact with the
Walter Bright wrote:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Walter Bright
This whole client-side state thingy bothers me quite a bit as well.
Yeah, but if it's all on the server (like reddit, slashdot) there's
another
problem. If you're engaged in an active topic, there's
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Walter Bright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bill Baxter wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like you're asking for Lisp. Small number of features with
>> which you can do just about anything. All using only oatmeal and
>> toenail clippings! Lua is a bit like that too, except th
dsimcha wrote:
Most programs have some subproblems that are pretty run-of-the-mill and should
just be solved in the most expedient way possible, and others that require more
thought, either to make them generic enough or fast enough. Mixing languages in
one project is generally a pain, especiall
Bill Baxter wrote:
Sounds like you're asking for Lisp. Small number of features with
which you can do just about anything. All using only oatmeal and
toenail clippings! Lua is a bit like that too, except the toenail
clippings part.
I know about lisp. My problem with it is the syntax. I just
== Quote from Walter Bright ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'s article
> I wish it were possible to have a language with just a small set of
> features that can do everything. C++'s problem is it can approximately
> do everything but with a boatload of gotcha's, like a const system that
> almost works but doesn
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Walter Bright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>>
>> The other problem with the web-news interface is that it's a piece of
>> shit. It breaks threading, it doesn't obey many RFCs, the interface
>> itself is terrible (as someone, maybe you, me
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Walter Bright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I've used them. Reddit, Digg, Stackoverflow, and Slashdot do *not* show
> you what you have and have not read. I've used other fora too, and they
> don't show either. They'll show what *thread* I've clicked on before,
Walter Bright:
> I wish it were possible to have a language with just a small set of
> features that can do everything. C++'s problem is it can approximately
> do everything but with a boatload of gotcha's, like a const system that
> almost works but doesn't deliver. Java threw out too much.
To
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Walter Bright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Fraser wrote:
>>
>> There are a lot of great language features, but C# and D are starting to
>> look like monsters with their "everything in the kitchen sink" approach
>> (c.f. C++). In Java, there's usually one way
Robert Fraser wrote:
There are a lot of great
language features, but C# and D are starting to look like monsters with
their "everything in the kitchen sink" approach (c.f. C++). In Java,
there's usually one way to do something. Sure, occasionally that way
doesn't fit, but more often than not,
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
The other problem with the web-news interface is that it's a piece of
shit. It breaks threading, it doesn't obey many RFCs, the interface
itself is terrible (as someone, maybe you, mentioned, it doesn't
thread entire conversations, only a given number of posts), and it
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Walter Bright
This whole client-side state thingy bothers me quite a bit as well.
Yeah, but if it's all on the server (like reddit, slashdot) there's another
problem. If you're engaged in an active topic, there's no way to quickly
scan
Brad Roberts wrote:
For me, it's not about speed, it's about push vs pull. A forum that I
have to actively go to to find out if there's new material is wasteful. I
In my case, it seems wasteful to use a newsreader just to check the D
ngs. I do everything from my browser except checking these
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Mike Parker wrote:
> Years ago, I followed many newsgroups because that was the only thing we had.
> The D newsgroups are the only ones I follow these days, because I have no
> choice. It also is the only reason I run Thunderbird (the web interface
> sucks), as I check all of
Mike Parker wrote:
Walter Bright wrote:
Chad J wrote:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
thing pans out?
Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
would al
Walter Bright wrote:
Chad J wrote:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
thing pans out?
Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
would allow editing of posts
Daniel White wrote:
Hi all,
Is it just me, or does anyone think it may be a good idea to use a
phpBB style forum instead/aswell? I understand the reasoning behind
the current system, as many of you have dedicated news readers which
parse the emailed posts into a more thread like manner afterwards
Paul D. Anderson wrote:
Sun has announced that their next language release, Java 7, which was expected in 2008
will now occur sometime in 2010. The big changes that were expected were the additions of
closures and properties. Neither of those seems likely now. The focus for the next
release no
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Jarrett Billingsley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Brad,
>> Good point I guess. While it's nice to have centralization for a forum's
>> posts, the kind of centralization you're talking about
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:04:16 +0300, BCS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Reply to Denis,
but you have to fetch all the
messages for doing a search over them by a keyword (my messages cache
is about 800Mb!).
That's all? Real men have >2GB of posts! :b
Here is a screenshot with some statistics t
Reply to Jarrett,
Google Groups does this already, but Walter does not want to have the
digitalmars news server indexed by it for fear of spam.
I'll trust him on that one seeing as more spam gets through my spam filters
in a month than I've seen on the NG,... ever
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Brad,
> Good point I guess. While it's nice to have centralization for a forum's
> posts, the kind of centralization you're talking about is extracting from
> potentially multiple sites, and going to your inbox.
>
> I supp
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> and - the big one for me - remote state
>
> Is it just me, or can't this be achieved by going to the "Web-New"
> section at:
> http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?search_txt=&group=digitalmars.D
>
> This is bet
Hi Brad,
Good point I guess. While it's nice to have centralization for a forum's
posts, the kind of centralization you're talking about is extracting from
potentially multiple sites, and going to your inbox.
I suppose the only way to get the best of these worlds is for a
system to combine all wan
Reply to Denis,
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:37:00 +0300, Brad Roberts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For me, it's not about speed, it's about push vs pull. A forum that I
Oh, Yes!! A system that doesn't provide a way to get a one stop shop for
everything I'm looking at looses big time in my book. S
Reply to Daniel,
and - the big one for me - remote state
Is it just me, or can't this be achieved by going to the "Web-New"
section at:
http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?search_txt=&group=di
gitalmars.D
This is better than what I've seen before, as it's threaded properly.
Dan
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:37:00 +0300, Brad Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For me, it's not about speed, it's about push vs pull. A forum that I
have to actively go to to find out if there's new material is wasteful.
I
already go to my mail client to find pushed material.. and it's
increme
Daniel White Wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is it just me, or does anyone think it may be a good idea to use a
> phpBB style forum instead/aswell? I understand the reasoning behind
> the current system, as many of you have dedicated news readers which
> parse the emailed posts into a more thread like manner a
For me, it's not about speed, it's about push vs pull. A forum that I
have to actively go to to find out if there's new material is wasteful. I
already go to my mail client to find pushed material.. and it's
incrementally much easier for me to subscribe to a mailing list than
anything else.
> and - the big one for me - remote state
Is it just me, or can't this be achieved by going to the "Web-New"
section at:
http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?search_txt=&group=digitalmars.D
This is better than what I've seen before, as it's threaded properly.
Dan
Jarrett Billingsle
To be honest, this 'Web-News' system is almost quite good, since
it acts in many ways like a forum does. The only thing which bothers
me is not being able to view all posts in a single thread on one page.
I need to click each child to read further.
Also code formatting, and proper quoting would be
"Paul D. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sun has announced that their next language release, Java 7, which was
> expected in 2008 will now occur sometime in 2010. The big changes that
> were expected were the additions of closures and properties. Neither o
Sun has announced that their next language release, Java 7, which was expected
in 2008 will now occur sometime in 2010. The big changes that were expected
were the additions of closures and properties. Neither of those seems likely
now. The focus for the next release now seems to be modularity,
Hi Derek,
I agree with the spirit of what you're saying, but if there were
a forum which was very, very fast (much faster than phpBB,
actually let's say near instant) for posting/navigation, and also
was more economical in space (it's rarely said, but most standard
forums eat up 2 or 3 lines of rea
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:25:24 -0500, Daniel White wrote:
> Sean Kelly Wrote:
>
>> I think there must be a generation gap here. The first thing
>> look for is a newsgroup dedicated to a subject. After that,
>> a mailing list. I have basically no interest in web forums.
> There must be forums o
Sean Kelly Wrote:
> I think there must be a generation gap here. The first thing
> look for is a newsgroup dedicated to a subject. After that,
> a mailing list. I have basically no interest in web forums.
I think you may be right. Apparently, there is (or was) a massive
division between the AS
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Walter Bright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad J wrote:
>>
>> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>
> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
> thing pans out?
Walter Bright Wrote:
> Yeah, but if it's all on the server (like reddit, slashdot) there's
> another problem. If you're engaged in an active topic, there's no way to
> quickly scan the page to see if anything new is posted. There's no way
> to tell what you've read and what you haven't.
You me
Chad J wrote:
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
thing pans out?
Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
would allow editing of posts, and probably other a
I think there must be a generation gap here. The first thing I look for is a
newsgroup dedicated to a subject. After that, a mailing list. I have basically
no interest in web forums.
== Quote from Morusaka ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'s article
> As a newcomer, I think more has to be done to make info a
As a newcomer, I think more has to be done to make info about D more accessible.
I'm thinking of what comes after one reads the first steps tutorial... and one
of that things could be a forum.
Luca.
Daniel White Wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is it just me, or does anyone think it may be a good idea to use
== Quote from Saaa ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'s article
> 2.0 I meant.
> http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/phobos/std_array.html
Oops. This is probably my fault. I'll fix it.
Sean
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
thing pans out?
Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages
(bett
2.0 I meant.
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/phobos/std_array.html
Daniel White wrote:
Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
thing pans out?
Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages
(better quoting, and image support) - something not available
in this current system
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
>> thing pans out?
>
> Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
> would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages
> (better quoting, and i
> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
> thing pans out?
Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages
(better quoting, and image support) - something not available
in this current system.
> What about d
Walter Bright, el 8 de diciembre a las 17:35 me escribiste:
> Leandro Lucarella wrote:
> >I swear my system didn't trash! =)
> >This is not some stupid thing just to prove you wrong. When I want my
> >process to live for as long as possible, even in extreme situations like
> >lack of memory, it's
Jim Hewes wrote:
Yes. Thanks for the example. I do that sort of thing a lot, and it
applies to anything with a handle such as mutexes, files, etc. In
garbage-collected languages, what am I supposed to do there? It would
seem that garbage collection and exceptions don't play nice together. Or
dsimcha wrote:
== Quote from The Anh Tran ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'s article
Hi,
Could you measure spinlock with this bench?
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/benchmark.php?test=binarytrees&lang=all
Thanks.
I tried to reply to your post last night with my modified gcx.d, but apparently
posting
Daniel White wrote:
To get the best of both worlds, one could get some backend server
software to automatically parse the posts into a thread/phpbb like
system, AND for the posts to be sent in the usual way to be read by
the specialized newsgroup software readers. Is there such a system? -
if not
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