On 2011-08-11 20:31, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:19:35 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
So how would that be different if the compiler drives everything? Say
you begin with a few local files. The compiler then scans through them
looking for URL imports. Then asks a tool to do
Pull requests for Phobos and druntime need to be reviewed before they get
merged in. Ideally, every pull request would be reviewed by at least two
Phobos devs before being merged in, but anyone is welcome to review pull
requests for druntime and Phobos and give constructive feedback. It will hel
Yes
I like how std.path has turned out. Thanks, Lars.
Two minor issues while skipping through the source (I've been on
vacation, and it took some time to catch up, so I'm not sure these have
already been discussed):
- C[] baseName(C, C1)(C[] path, C1[] suffix) does not respect the case
sensitiv
On Friday, August 12, 2011 10:14:11 Rainer Schuetze wrote:
> I like how std.path has turned out. Thanks, Lars.
>
> Two minor issues while skipping through the source (I've been on
> vacation, and it took some time to catch up, so I'm not sure these have
> already been discussed):
>
> - C[] baseNa
On 2011-08-11 21:36, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
be one-file based, you just need to have a way to map
physical packages to module packages.
The DIP doesn't explain all this except for the sections titled
"Packaging" and "protocols"
The DIP needs to explain this, is that the whole point?
--
/
On 2011-08-11 23:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources have been
yet downloaded.
Andrei
No, not when you have a single meta file containing all the dependencies
of all packages.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 2011-08-11 23:30, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
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Assuming that, you would still need to link with the libraries. I don't
know if pragma(lib, ""); could work but I don't like that pragma in
general. It's platform dependent
T
On 2011-08-12 00:02, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:20:04 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in message
news:j21g1a$ea4$1...@digitalmars.com...
It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources have been
yet
downloaded.
With DIP11, yes
On 2011-08-12 00:42, Martin Nowak wrote:
It really looks sound to me.
---
module myfile;
pragma(imppath, "dep=www.dpan.org/dep");
import dep.a;
---
remote file
---
module dep.a;
// link directives
pragma(libpath, "dep=www.dpan.org/dep");
pragma(lib, "dep");
// or alternatively some new pragma
On 2011-08-12 08:17, kennytm wrote:
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:20:04 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in
message
news:j21g1a$ea4$1...@digitalmars.com...
It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources have
been>> yet
download
On 8/12/11 11:05 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 23:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources have been
yet downloaded.
Andrei
No, not when you have a single meta file containing all the dependencies
of all packages.
Or a »spec« file
bearophile wrote:
I have added this bit of code to my dmd, it gives warnings in cases of integral
signed-unsigned comparisons:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/119
Then I have compiled Phobos (with unittests) with the -wi switch, this has
generated some of those signed-unsign
Don wrote:
> I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
> didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
> That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find that such messages are nearly
> always false positives.
>
> The one case where it's a bit annoying is
On 8/7/11 9:47 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
http://thecybershadow.net/d/vcanalysis/
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/b1e4cb6ef0a8d3c5f54d5cb09ddd1a9e/DMD.log
Is there a way to disable exceptions with MSVC like -fno-exceptions for
GCC to help get rid of the associated false positives?
David
kennytm wrote:
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find that such messages are nearly
always false positives.
The one case where it's a bit annoyi
bearophile wrote:
Don:
2) I have found many situations where I am able to solve a problem with both a
simple and slow brute force solver, and a complex and fast algorithm to solve a
problem. The little program maybe is too much slow for normal usage, but it's
just few lines long (especially
Lars Kyllingstad's new std.path has been approved by the D community by
a vote of 22-0. Congratulations, Lars! I look forward to seeing this
in the next release
On 8/10/2011 9:22 AM, dsimcha wrote:
The review of the new std.path is drawing to a close and it looks like
another success! (Congratulations, Lars.) Lately, though, the queue of
stuff to review has been getting rather long, admittedly a problem we'd
like to have. I want to get a list of stuff th
> You mean to indicate the attribute doesn't have a value?
Yes, the field of a table can be null in DB.
--
Zhang
Am 12.08.2011, 12:22 Uhr, schrieb kennytm :
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find that such messages are nearly
always false positives.
The on
On 08/12/2011 01:31 PM, Don wrote:
bearophile wrote:
Don:
2) I have found many situations where I am able to solve a problem
with both a simple and slow brute force solver, and a complex and
fast algorithm to solve a problem. The little program maybe is too
much slow for normal usage, but it's
> Graham Fawcett wrote.
> > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:10:15 +0800, zhang wrote:
> >
> >>> > I think D needs user defined attributes first.
> >>
> >> About attribute, here is an example:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There is a problem that is D's basic type is not nullable. In C#,
> >> the nullable integer
Marco Leise:
> Just remember that reverse loops are written like this:
>
> for (size_t i = x.length; i-- > 0; ) {...}
Thankfully in D there is foreach_reverse :-)
import std.stdio;
void main() {
auto array = [10, 20, 30];
for (size_t i = array.length; i-- > 0; )
writeln(i, " "
I have found this though Reddit, I am not expert about this stuff, but it's
something for the design of the next C (C1X), about memory-order options:
http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/www/docs/n1525.htm
Bye,
bearophile
On 08/12/2011 03:08 PM, bearophile wrote:
Marco Leise:
Just remember that reverse loops are written like this:
for (size_t i = x.length; i--> 0; ) {...}
Thankfully in D there is foreach_reverse :-)
import std.stdio;
void main() {
auto array = [10, 20, 30];
for (size_t i = array
On 2011-08-12 14:55, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 12:22 Uhr, schrieb kennytm :
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find that such messages a
On 2011-08-12 14:59, zhang wrote:
You mean to indicate the attribute doesn't have a value?
Yes, the field of a table can be null in DB.
--
Zhang
I think you can declare new types for the types found in the database,
like String, Integer, Date and so on. You could put additional useful
Am 12.08.2011, 15:08 Uhr, schrieb bearophile :
Marco Leise:
Just remember that reverse loops are written like this:
for (size_t i = x.length; i-- > 0; ) {...}
Thankfully in D there is foreach_reverse :-)
import std.stdio;
void main() {
auto array = [10, 20, 30];
for (size_t i = a
On 08/12/2011 03:33 PM, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 15:08 Uhr, schrieb bearophile :
Marco Leise:
Just remember that reverse loops are written like this:
for (size_t i = x.length; i-- > 0; ) {...}
Thankfully in D there is foreach_reverse :-)
import std.stdio;
void main() {
auto arra
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 03:23:30 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 20:31, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:19:35 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
So how would that be different if the compiler drives everything? Say
you begin with a few local files. The compiler then scans
Am 12.08.2011, 14:55 Uhr, schrieb Marco Leise :
for (size_t i = x.length; i-- > 0; ) {...}
Actually this is probably better:
for (auto i = x.length; i > 0; )
{
--i;
...
}
Am 12.08.2011, 15:44 Uhr, schrieb Timon Gehr :
On 08/12/2011 03:33 PM, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 15:08 Uhr, schrieb bearophile :
Marco Leise:
Just remember that reverse loops are written like this:
for (size_t i = x.length; i-- > 0; ) {...}
Thankfully in D there is foreach_revers
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:12:47 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 00:42, Martin Nowak wrote:
It really looks sound to me.
---
module myfile;
pragma(imppath, "dep=www.dpan.org/dep");
import dep.a;
---
remote file
---
module dep.a;
// link directives
pragma(libpath, "dep=www.dpan.org/de
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:04:13 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 21:36, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
be one-file based, you just need to have a way to map
physical packages to module packages.
The DIP doesn't explain all this except for the sections titled
"Packaging" and "protocols"
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:17:36 -0400, kennytm wrote:
"Steven Schveighoffer" wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:20:04 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Andrei Alexandrescu" wrote in
> message
> news:j21g1a$ea4$1...@digitalmars.com...
>>
>> It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:45:11 -0400, dsimcha wrote:
Lars Kyllingstad's new std.path has been approved by the D community by
a vote of 22-0. Congratulations, Lars! I look forward to seeing this
in the next release
Congrats Lars! Just so you know, I was probably a yes vote, but I didn't
I did write build2.d, which tries to simulate dip11 outside
the compiler.
http://arsdnet.net/dcode/build2.d
Since it's not actually in the compiler, it can't be perfect
but it sorta tries.
On 8/12/11 3:05 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 23:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources have been
yet downloaded.
Andrei
No, not when you have a single meta file containing all the dependencies
of all packages.
I understand. I be
I hope you will have good arguments when they start speaking
about available tooling for C++ vs D.
Specially about the all the platforms Crytek supports.
"Marco Leise" wrote in message
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> Am 10.08.2011, 10:20 Uhr, schrieb Stephan
zhang wrote:
>> Graham Fawcett wrote.
>>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:10:15 +0800, zhang wrote:
>>>
>> I think D needs user defined attributes first.
About attribute, here is an example:
There is a problem that is D's basic type is not nullable. In C#,
th
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:45:11 -0400, dsimcha wrote:
> Lars Kyllingstad's new std.path has been approved by the D community by
> a vote of 22-0. Congratulations, Lars! I look forward to seeing this
> in the next release
Thanks to all reviewers! I think your feedback had a large, positive
impact
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:55:26 +0200, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 12:22 Uhr, schrieb kennytm :
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find tha
On Friday, August 12, 2011 12:39:01 Don wrote:
> kennytm wrote:
> > Don wrote:
> >> I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
> >> didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
> >> That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find that such messages are near
On 2011-08-12 15:53, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
This is not true. The compiler implements *hooks* for a download tool.
The download tool will be a separate process which turns urls (generated
by the compiler) into source files. Once the hooks are implemented, the
tool is independent, and we woul
On 2011-08-12 15:56, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:04:13 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 21:36, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
be one-file based, you just need to have a way to map
physical packages to module packages.
The DIP doesn't explain all this except for
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:30:42 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 15:53, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
This is not true. The compiler implements *hooks* for a download tool.
The download tool will be a separate process which turns urls (generated
by the compiler) into source files. Once th
Am 12.08.2011, 17:48 Uhr, schrieb Simen Kjaeraas :
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:55:26 +0200, Marco Leise
wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 12:22 Uhr, schrieb kennytm :
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compile
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM, dsimcha wrote:
> On 8/10/2011 9:22 AM, dsimcha wrote:
>
>> The review of the new std.path is drawing to a close and it looks like
>> another success! (Congratulations, Lars.) Lately, though, the queue of
>> stuff to review has been getting rather long, admittedly
On Aug 12, 2011, at 6:09 AM, bearophile wrote:
> I have found this though Reddit, I am not expert about this stuff, but it's
> something for the design of the next C (C1X), about memory-order options:
>
> http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/www/docs/n1525.htm
This is pretty much what's in C+
On 8/12/2011 8:52 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
it's a practice that many
people don't seem to follow (in both C/C++ and D), since it's so natural to
use int (or auto in D),
Back in the olden days of C, it was "best practice" to use int as an index.
Times have changed, but old habits die hard.
On 2011-08-12 15:49, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Note that the pragmas are specific to that file only. So you don't have
an import file which defines pragmas. This is to prevent conflicts
between two files that declare the same package override.
Now I'm not quite sure I understand. Are you sayi
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:19:09 +0200, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 17:48 Uhr, schrieb Simen Kjaeraas
:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:55:26 +0200, Marco Leise
wrote:
Am 12.08.2011, 12:22 Uhr, schrieb kennytm :
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real
On 12/08/11 3:27 PM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
I hope you will have good arguments when they start speaking
about available tooling for C++ vs D.
Specially about the all the platforms Crytek supports.
"Marco Leise" wrote in message
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A
On 2011-08-12 16:11, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 8/12/11 3:05 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 23:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
It's difficult to get all dependencies when not all sources have been
yet downloaded.
Andrei
No, not when you have a single meta file containing all the d
On 2011-08-12 20:16, Walter Bright wrote:
On 8/12/2011 8:52 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
it's a practice that many
people don't seem to follow (in both C/C++ and D), since it's so
natural to
use int (or auto in D),
Back in the olden days of C, it was "best practice" to use int as an
index. Time
On 2011-08-12 19:08, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:30:42 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 15:53, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
This is not true. The compiler implements *hooks* for a download tool.
The download tool will be a separate process which turns urls (gen
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:24:46 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 15:49, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Note that the pragmas are specific to that file only. So you don't have
an import file which defines pragmas. This is to prevent conflicts
between two files that declare the same package
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:31:28 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 19:08, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:30:42 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 15:53, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
This is not true. The compiler implements *hooks* for a download tool.
The d
On 2011-08-12 20:26, Simen Kjaeraas wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:19:09 +0200, Marco Leise wrote:
This way it is actually fun to cripple the for loop, yay. Still if
people started to argue that it is a bad idea to modify variables in
the condition I'd silently agree. So a look at "foreach_rever
On Friday, August 12, 2011 10:48 Jimmy Cao wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM, dsimcha wrote:
> > On 8/10/2011 9:22 AM, dsimcha wrote:
> >> The review of the new std.path is drawing to a close and it looks like
> >> another success! (Congratulations, Lars.) Lately, though, the queue of
> >>
Den 12-08-2011 14:45, dsimcha skrev:
Lars Kyllingstad's new std.path has been approved by the D community by
a vote of 22-0. Congratulations, Lars! I look forward to seeing this in
the next release
Grats to you Lars.
/Jonas
On 2011-08-12 20:36, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:24:46 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 15:49, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Note that the pragmas are specific to that file only. So you don't have
an import file which defines pragmas. This is to prevent conflict
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:12:07 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 20:36, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:24:46 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 15:49, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Note that the pragmas are specific to that file only. So you don't
have
an
Timon Gehr:
> foreach_reverse(i;0..array.length) writeln(array[i]),i--;
I'd like to statically forbid some more usages of the comma operator in D :-)
Some of them are already forbidden compared to C. This is valid C code:
int main() {
int array[5];
int i = 1;
int j = 2;
array[i,
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2011 12:39:01 Don wrote:
kennytm wrote:
Don wrote:
I've had a look at a dozen or so of these, and they were all real. I
didn't see any which require a cast to "make the compiler shut up".
That's pretty impressive. In C++ I find that such messages
On 08/12/2011 08:32 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 20:16, Walter Bright wrote:
On 8/12/2011 8:52 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
it's a practice that many
people don't seem to follow (in both C/C++ and D), since it's so
natural to
use int (or auto in D),
Back in the olden days of C, it w
On 08/12/2011 09:32 PM, bearophile wrote:
Timon Gehr:
foreach_reverse(i;0..array.length) writeln(array[i]),i--;
I'd like to statically forbid some more usages of the comma operator in D :-)
Some of them are already forbidden compared to C. This is valid C code:
int main() {
int array[5
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:49:30 +0200, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 03:23:30 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-11 20:31, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:19:35 -0400, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
So how would that be different if the compiler drives ever
Don:
> bearophile wrote:
>> 2) I have found many situations where I am able to solve a problem with both
>> a
>> simple and slow brute force solver, and a complex and fast algorithm to solve
>> a problem. The little program maybe is too much slow for normal usage, but
>> it's just few lines long
Dear,
I would like to know how do a multilanguage application. It seem it is possible
by using flag -J but they are no document for this feature.
link givent in this page http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/dmd-linux.html seem
to be wrong
if you can do a little example, will be nice
thanks
kind r
I think I've run into a problem with DMD's compilation. Can anyone suggest a
work around? In the middle of a function I called writefln to output a double
value for testing, but the code is now segfaulting during the execution of
writefln. Backtrace from gdb follows.
Thanks,
JC
Program receiv
Timon Gehr wrote:
On 08/12/2011 09:32 PM, bearophile wrote:
Timon Gehr:
foreach_reverse(i;0..array.length) writeln(array[i]),i--;
I'd like to statically forbid some more usages of the comma operator
in D :-)
Some of them are already forbidden compared to C. This is valid C code:
int main
Jonathan Crapuchettes:
> I think I've run into a problem with DMD's compilation. Can anyone suggest a
> work around? In the middle of a function I called writefln to output a double
> value for testing, but the code is now segfaulting during the execution of
> writefln. Backtrace from gdb follo
On 8/12/2011 11:32 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 20:16, Walter Bright wrote:
On 8/12/2011 8:52 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
it's a practice that many
people don't seem to follow (in both C/C++ and D), since it's so
natural to
use int (or auto in D),
Back in the olden days of C, it wa
On 08/12/2011 04:06 PM, Don wrote:
No, it was specifically disallowed.
Version D 2.037 Dec 3, 2009
New/Changed Features
No more comma operators allowed between [ ].
I think that was for type declarations, not index expressions.
you can still do this:
import std.stdio;
struct X{
void opI
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:36:32 +0200, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-08-12 20:26, Simen Kjaeraas wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:19:09 +0200, Marco Leise
wrote:
This way it is actually fun to cripple the for loop, yay. Still if
people started to argue that it is a bad idea to modify variables in
On 08/12/2011 11:06 PM, Don wrote:
Timon Gehr wrote:
On 08/12/2011 09:32 PM, bearophile wrote:
Timon Gehr:
foreach_reverse(i;0..array.length) writeln(array[i]),i--;
I'd like to statically forbid some more usages of the comma operator
in D :-)
Some of them are already forbidden compared to
On 08/13/2011 12:37 AM, Ellery Newcomer wrote:
On 08/12/2011 04:06 PM, Don wrote:
No, it was specifically disallowed.
Version D 2.037 Dec 3, 2009
New/Changed Features
No more comma operators allowed between [ ].
I think that was for type declarations, not index expressions.
you can still do
I made a few changes to std.system to clean it up a bit and make it more
thorough:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/186
However, on reflection, I'm not convinced that the OS enum and its
corresponding os variable along with the os_major and os_minor variables serve
any rea
"Peter Alexander" wrote in message
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>
> The conversation wouldn't get to tools. It would end with a simple reply:
> "Everyone here knows C++, no one knows D. All our code is written in C++
> and it works."
>
Any sentence involving the phrases "C++" and "
"dsimcha" wrote in message
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> Lars Kyllingstad's new std.path has been approved by the D community by a
> vote of 22-0.
>
Geez, Lars, you couldn't have made that module a little less controversial??
:)
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