On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:57:53 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 6/5/14, 1:08 PM, uri wrote:
I assume it will but thought I'd ask all the same...
I only use the latest official release and would still like to
bash on
std.experimental modules so I hope it will be in 2.066.zip.
Thanks,
Am Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:30:40 +
schrieb "Dicebot" :
> On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:01:43 UTC, bioinfornatics wrote:
> > On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> >> On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> >>> This likewise gdc too. All you need to d
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:30:46 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:01:43 UTC, bioinfornatics wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This likewise gdc too. All you need to do is look at
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 22:12:04 UTC, John wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This likewise gdc too. All you need to do is look at the
downloads
page on dlang.org !
It still says nothing about d
On Friday, 6 June 2014 at 02:21:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 6/5/2014 6:08 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:11:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ha!
Though, truth be told, I can't stand modern pop music.
My (completely unfounded) belief is that nobody *trul
2014-04-26 19:27 GMT+09:00 bearophile via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>:
> Jonathan M Davis:
>
>
> However, I'm not sure that treating it as weakly pure buys
>> us anything except in the case where we're trying to make
>> the outer function pure as well.
>>
>
> Here is a bit more r
Hey I know this isn't the perfect place to ask this but... Has
anyone else had trouble ordering from Digital Mars? I
particularly ordered the Utility package.
The site took my order on paypal fine but then I never got
anything after that. So I tried emailing wgma...@digitalmars.com
about it, and
Jonathan, every one of your postings starts a new thread rather than staying in
the one you reply to.
On 6/5/2014 6:08 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:11:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ha!
Though, truth be told, I can't stand modern pop music.
My (completely unfounded) belief is that nobody *truly* likes that stuff. ;)
I always go for metal, goa trance and
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 03:30:19 +0200
Artur Skawina via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 06/06/14 02:34, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> And you get an API which looks like this:
>
>auto r = d.split!q{ days, seconds, msecs };
>// access r.days etc
You can already do that with what I ha
I have a ubuntu 12.04 spin in which I am running
dmd hello.d -shared -defaultlib=libphobos2.so -ofhello.so
on an empty hello.d. attempting to use it (python) results in
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "test.py", line 1, in
import hello
ImportError: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libphob
On 06/06/14 02:34, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 23:54:49 +0200
> Artur Skawina via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
>> I'm just saying that encouraging that kind of
>> return-by-weakly-typed-pointers-with-string-selectors interfaces
>> is /not/ a good idea; there are othe
On 06/06/14 02:34, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:18:33 -0400
> Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:06:01 -0400, monarch_dodra
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 08:49:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via
>>> Digitalma
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:15:11 -0400
Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> Respectfully disagree, the API looks very good to me. And decidedly
> not C-like.
It's not even _possible_ to write a function like this in C or in C++98
(though - though maybe C++11/14 can). I don't know of any o
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 21:12:25 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:
I've been looking at ways to optimize the D lexer's operation
using SIMD instructions. I'm not yet sure if I'll need to
change the lexer generator's API to do this. I'm going to wait
until I have my proof-of-concept code and some be
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 23:54:49 +0200
Artur Skawina via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> I'm just saying that encouraging that kind of
> return-by-weakly-typed-pointers-with-string-selectors interfaces
> is /not/ a good idea; there are other, much better, options in D.
There's no weak typing here at all. The
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:18:33 -0400
Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:06:01 -0400, monarch_dodra
> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 08:49:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via
> > Digitalmars-d
> >> long days;
> >> int seconds;
> >> short msecs;
> >
On 06/06/14 00:15, Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:54:49 -0400, Artur Skawina via Digitalmars-d
> wrote:
>> I'd say it is very C-ish and very unidiomatic.
>>
>> Why? Well, compare with:
>>
>>struct D {
>> // In real code these methods would do the
On 06/06/2014 01:15 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/5/2014 11:09 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Thoughts?
Please file bugzilla issue(s) for this.
There already is one:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8838
On 6/4/2014 9:20 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
Ldc for example still does not support windows 64 bit. And that is just one of
the things thats wrong with it on windows.
On Windows, it needs to be more than just 64 bit. It needs to work with Visual
Studio.
On 6/5/2014 11:09 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Thoughts?
Please file bugzilla issue(s) for this.
On 6/5/2014 7:01 AM, bioinfornatics wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This likewise gdc too. All you need to do is look at the downloads
page on dlang.org !
It still says nothing about doing:
su
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 22:06:02 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 08:49:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via
Digitalmars-d
long days;
int seconds;
short msecs;
d.split!("days", "seconds", "msecs")(&days, &seconds,
&msecs);
Please don't use pass-by-pointer in D API
On 6/5/14, 8:30 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
The fundamental issue seems to lie in methodology and it is that @safe
is approximated by the DMD implementation from the wrong side. Instead
of gradually banning usage of more and more constructs in @safe, the
implementation should have started out with not
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 17:54:49 -0400, Artur Skawina via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
On 06/05/14 16:18, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:23:47AM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Actually, after some further discussion, I think that we've decided to
remov
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:06:01 -0400, monarch_dodra
wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 08:49:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via
Digitalmars-d
long days;
int seconds;
short msecs;
d.split!("days", "seconds", "msecs")(&days, &seconds, &msecs);
Please don't use pass-by-pointer in D A
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 09:36:53 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I think we should focus on solving problems that modern backend
aren't capable to optimize.<
I agree. But those D snippets I have written are not able to
show what the backends are or aren't able to do. Generally if
you
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This likewise gdc too. All you need to do is look at the
downloads
page on dlang.org !
It still says nothing about doing:
sudo apt-get install gdc
on Ubuntu! Why keep
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 08:49:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via
Digitalmars-d
long days;
int seconds;
short msecs;
d.split!("days", "seconds", "msecs")(&days, &seconds,
&msecs);
Please don't use pass-by-pointer in D APIs. It makes it a real
*nightmare* to ever use the code in a
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:11:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Ha!
Though, truth be told, I can't stand modern pop music.
I always go for metal, goa trance and alike. That keep my lizard
brain quiet while my higher cognitive capacity are at work.
Right now Gamma Ray - Powerpla
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 09:23:00 UTC, bearophile wrote:
Sorry for my answers coming so slowly.
Hah! I'm on these forums (selfishly) trying to understand/improve
D for my own use at work, while you seem to be
helping/teaching/contributing for the sake of it. I'm continually
surprised by h
On 06/05/14 16:18, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:23:47AM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
> wrote:
>> Actually, after some further discussion, I think that we've decided to
>> remove get/getOnly entirely. Instead, we'll have a function called
>> split wh
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 20:37:51 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 16:32:24 -0400, monarch_dodra
wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:57:08 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
A possible fix could be to reject the call to ptr at runtime
if the slice is empty.
I don't k
Am Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:29:38 +
schrieb "Dicebot" :
> On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 12:48:04 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> >> While I respect your point of view on the matter (and agree
> >> with it to a large extent), it's not your head on the line
> >> here.
> >> Do the mirror owners even know th
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 16:37:14 -0400, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:42 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:16:06 -0400, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5710
Is this likely to get fixed or is it more likely to drift along
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 16:32:24 -0400, monarch_dodra
wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:57:08 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
A possible fix could be to reject the call to ptr at runtime if the
slice is empty.
I don't know why you'd ever do "arr.ptr" in the first place, other than
to a
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 20:29:14 UTC, Meta wrote:
There is a version of this with vocals that has been done
several times by the Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra,
the World Festival Symphony Orchestra, and the Kanagawa
Philharmonic Orchestra for the Distant Worlds recordings, and
th
On 06/05/2014 08:42 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:16:06 -0400, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5710
Is this likely to get fixed or is it more likely to drift along as an
unfixed issue?
If Kenji cannot fix it, it doesn'
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:57:08 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
A possible fix could be to reject the call to ptr at runtime if
the slice is empty.
I don't know why you'd ever do "arr.ptr" in the first place,
other than to avoid the bounds check. So I think the call should
just be unsaf
On 5 June 2014 19:59, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 2014-06-05 12:27, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
>> I haven't tried hammering the server - it's a VM hosted on linode.
>> But if you mean if the compiler builds are reliable, then that answer
>> is yes.
>>
>> I know that th
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 17:45:00 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
Second best opera ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGw3A9Dg-Q
lololol
(first best opera? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuf9ZSJrdg
oh yeah ff6!)
There is a version of this with vocals that has been done several
times by
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:54:33 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:48:09 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:34:13 -0400, monarch_dodra
wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:27:56 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:47:5
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:48:09 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:34:13 -0400, monarch_dodra
wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:27:56 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:47:54 -0400, deadalnix
T[] arr = [ ... ];
arr = arr[$ .. $];
auto garbag
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:34:13 -0400, monarch_dodra
wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:27:56 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:47:54 -0400, deadalnix
T[] arr = [ ... ];
arr = arr[$ .. $];
auto garbage = *(arr.ptr);
Believe it or not, this is actually safe.
What do
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 19:27:56 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:47:54 -0400, deadalnix
T[] arr = [ ... ];
arr = arr[$ .. $];
auto garbage = *(arr.ptr);
Believe it or not, this is actually safe.
-Steve
What do you mean by "is actually safe" ? In the "can you actu
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:52:39 -0400, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:35 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:30:49 -0400, Timon Gehr
wrote:
The fundamental issue seems to lie in methodology and it is that @safe
is approximated by the DMD implementation from the wrong s
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:47:54 -0400, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 18:33:22 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:17 PM, deadalnix wrote:
@safe is fundamentally broken.
What's the "fundamental" problem? The construct seems perfectly fit to
specify memory safety in at least
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:17:10 +
deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> @safe is fundamentally broken.
@safe as a concept is fine. It's what the compiler currently thinks is or
isn't @safe which is broken. If we can fix that, we should be fine.
- Jonathan M Davis
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:09:44 -0400
Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> I propose that we start migrating towards making slicing of stack
> data un-@safe, first by making it a warning, enabled with -w. Then
> making it an error.
I reported this quite some time ago, but unfortunately,
On 2014-06-05 19:14, Remo wrote:
Exceptions make a lot of other thing expensive and complicated.
IMHO Exceptions should only be used in really really exceptional cases
and not all the way and for control flow.
Fortunately it is not really necessary to use Exceptions in C++.
A great example for
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:35:16 + (UTC)
Byron Heads via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 07:18:59 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:23:47AM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via
> > Digitalmars-d wrote:
> >>
> >> {
> >> auto d = dur!"days"(12) + dur
On 2014-06-05 12:27, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I haven't tried hammering the server - it's a VM hosted on linode.
But if you mean if the compiler builds are reliable, then that answer
is yes.
I know that the Native Linux and ARM builds are passing the
testsuite/library unittests (as
On 06/05/2014 08:35 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:30:49 -0400, Timon Gehr wrote:
The fundamental issue seems to lie in methodology and it is that @safe
is approximated by the DMD implementation from the wrong side. Instead
of gradually banning usage of more and more co
On 06/05/2014 08:47 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 18:33:22 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:17 PM, deadalnix wrote:
@safe is fundamentally broken.
What's the "fundamental" problem? The construct seems perfectly fit to
specify memory safety in at least the following c
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 18:33:22 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 06/05/2014 08:17 PM, deadalnix wrote:
@safe is fundamentally broken.
What's the "fundamental" problem? The construct seems perfectly
fit to specify memory safety in at least the following context:
void main()@safe{}
:o)
Many
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:16:06 -0400, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5710
Is this likely to get fixed or is it more likely to drift along as an
unfixed issue?
If Kenji cannot fix it, it doesn't look good for getting fixed...
It would be nice,
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:30:49 -0400, Timon Gehr wrote:
The fundamental issue seems to lie in methodology and it is that @safe
is approximated by the DMD implementation from the wrong side. Instead
of gradually banning usage of more and more constructs in @safe, the
implementation should hav
On 06/05/2014 08:17 PM, deadalnix wrote:
@safe is fundamentally broken.
What's the "fundamental" problem? The construct seems perfectly fit to
specify memory safety in at least the following context:
void main()@safe{}
:o)
On 06/05/2014 08:09 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
A quick example:
T[] getBuf(T)() @safe
{
T[100] ret;
auto r = ret[];
return r;
}
void main() @safe
{
auto buf = getBuf!int();
}
Note, the above compiles. An interesting thing here is that we have explicitly
marked getBuf as
@safe is fundamentally broken.
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5710
Is this likely to get fixed or is it more likely to drift along as an
unfixed issue?
I am not discommoded by this, it is a matter of codebase style.
Thanks.
--
Russel.
=
D
Am 05.06.2014 20:01, schrieb Jeremy DeHaan:
Hey all,
I've been using D for a while now and I would very much like to
contribute to the development of the language. Here's the problem: I
know next to nothing about compilers or anything related to language
design. So, my question is, how can someo
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 06:01:32PM +, Jeremy DeHaan via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've been using D for a while now and I would very much like to contribute
> to the development of the language. Here's the problem: I know next to
> nothing about compilers or anything related to langu
I was just viewing an interesting pull request. The pull wanted to change
a line like this (buf is a fixed-size stack allocated array):
auto x = buf.ptr[0..buf.len];
To this:
auto trustedBuffer(ref typeof(buf) b) @trusted { return b.ptr[0..buf.len];
}
for the sake of allowing the enclosin
Hey all,
I've been using D for a while now and I would very much like to
contribute to the development of the language. Here's the
problem: I know next to nothing about compilers or anything
related to language design. So, my question is, how can someone
like me help?
Jeremy
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:29:09 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:21:21 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote:
Well, one issue is that for a "Range", "put" really just means
overwrite the front element, and pop it. So...
I see. I wasn't aware of that.
That said, having an expl
Second best opera ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbGw3A9Dg-Q
lololol
(first best opera? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuf9ZSJrdg oh
yeah ff6!)
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 10:07:59AM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 6/5/2014 2:49 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> >On 2014-06-04 21:02, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> >
> >>It's strange, I find that even ambient music distracts me, yet the
> >>loud noise of an occasional passin
On 6/5/2014 4:56 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/5/2014 1:46 AM, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I don't know how they ever got the job or how they've kept it
beyond a reluctance to fire people on the part of management
(especially when
the poor coder is a really nice person).
I'd alwa
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 09:55:21 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2014-06-04 23:21, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/3/2014 2:44 PM, Remo wrote:
No exceptions (!) so this is at least something that this
language do better as C++ and D :D
Not everyone think that exceptions are necessary or there is
On 6/5/2014 2:49 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2014-06-04 21:02, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
It's strange, I find that even ambient music distracts me, yet the loud
noise of an occasional passing train doesn't. Similarly, even whispers
will distract me, but birds chirping, trees rustling
On 6/5/14, 1:08 PM, uri wrote:
I assume it will but thought I'd ask all the same...
I only use the latest official release and would still like to bash on
std.experimental modules so I hope it will be in 2.066.zip.
Thanks,
uri
std.experimental should come with the default installation. -- And
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 16:21:21 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote:
Well, one issue is that for a "Range", "put" really just means
overwrite the front element, and pop it. So...
Array!int myArray = ...:
copy([1, 2, 3], myArray); //(1)
copy([1, 2, 3], myArray[]); //(2)
In this situation, (1) and (
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 13:51:35 UTC, Rene Zwanenburg wrote:
I depend heavily on RAII in a project I'm working on. Since
structs in dynamic arrays never have their destructors called
I'm using Array!T instead. A pattern that comes up often is
that I have some input range of T's which need t
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 15:51:58 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 14:16:31 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 11:28:52 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
Does one really needs only one component, but not the others?
Maybe it should provide full computed broken form instead
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 07:18:59 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:23:47AM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via
> Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>
>> {
>> auto d = dur!"days"(12) + dur!"minutes"(7) + dur!"usecs"(501223);
>> long days;
>> int seconds;
>> short msecs
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 14:01:43 UTC, bioinfornatics wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This likewise gdc too. All you need to do is look at the
downloads
page on dlang.org !
It still says nothi
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 12:48:04 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
While I respect your point of view on the matter (and agree
with it to a large extent), it's not your head on the line
here.
Do the mirror owners even know that - if they charge for their
services - it could be argued that they are co
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:23:47AM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:12:06 +0200
> Sönke Ludwig via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
> > Just a minor note: What about just .only!"minutes", analogous
> > .total!"minutes"? Removing both the .minutes shortcut and the s
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 11:49:38AM +0200, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 2014-06-04 21:02, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
> >It's strange, I find that even ambient music distracts me, yet the
> >loud noise of an occasional passing train doesn't. Similarly, even
> >whispers wi
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:40:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/4/2014 9:25 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This likewise gdc too. All you need to do is look at the
downloads
page on dlang.org !
It still says nothing about doing:
sudo apt-get install gdc
on Ubuntu! Why keep
I depend heavily on RAII in a project I'm working on. Since
structs in dynamic arrays never have their destructors called I'm
using Array!T instead. A pattern that comes up often is that I
have some input range of T's which need to be stored in a member
Array!T. However Array is not an output r
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 11:35:23 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 11:24:47 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:50:04 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Don't quote me, but the only way distributions can ship DMD
is via a
script that does a download f
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 12:45:06 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 11:35:23 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 11:24:47 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:50:04 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Don't quote me, but the only way dist
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 11:24:47 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:50:04 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Don't quote me, but the only way distributions can ship DMD is
via a
script that does a download from dlang.org, extract, install
process
(like eg: flashp
On Thursday, 5 June 2014 at 06:50:04 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
Don't quote me, but the only way distributions can ship DMD is
via a
script that does a download from dlang.org, extract, install
process
(like eg: flashplayer).
Unless I'm misunderstanding how the arch repositorie
I assume it will but thought I'd ask all the same...
I only use the latest official release and would still like to
bash on std.experimental modules so I hope it will be in
2.066.zip.
Thanks,
uri
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 21:12:25 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:
I've been looking at ways to optimize the D lexer's operation
using SIMD instructions. I'm not yet sure if I'll need to
change the lexer generator's API to do this. I'm going to wait
until I have my proof-of-concept code and some be
Dmitry Olshansky:
It would be interesting if you could point to a precedent of
expression-level attribute used for enforcing that compiler
does elide bounds checking
Perhaps that's a little invention of mine :-)
In the last years I've seen that while optimizations are
important, there are s
On 5 June 2014 10:47, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 2014-06-04 21:25, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
>> I have an OSX box to start porting. But there's a couple druntime
>> related problems I need to have a proper sit down about. These are
>> mostly TLS-related problems.
On 2014-06-04 23:21, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/3/2014 2:44 PM, Remo wrote:
No exceptions (!) so this is at least something that this
language do better as C++ and D :D
Not everyone think that exceptions are necessary or there is no
other way to handle errors.
Exceptions make ARC expensive, so
On 2014-06-05 11:04, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
This is very much the Java model: exceptions are for exceptional events
that can be handled or not.
In Python of course exceptions are just control flow.
Ruby has both "raise", for exceptions, and "throw", for control flow.
But I su
On 2014-06-04 21:02, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
It's strange, I find that even ambient music distracts me, yet the loud
noise of an occasional passing train doesn't. Similarly, even whispers
will distract me, but birds chirping, trees rustling, etc., don't. It's
something about intellig
On 2014-06-04 21:25, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I have an OSX box to start porting. But there's a couple druntime
related problems I need to have a proper sit down about. These are
mostly TLS-related problems. DMD insists on doing something wildly
different for each target. I insis
On 2014-06-04 21:34, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 at 18:06:08 UTC, Mattcoder wrote:
I think it would be a nice for learning experience and contributing
more with community.
It's always great to see new people interested in helping out with
compiler development. Just follow
On 2014-06-04 22:37, Rainer Schuetze wrote:
All more sophisticated GCs have write or read barriers. That makes it
much easier to keep track of modifications during concurrent collection.
Right, now I start to remember.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
deadalnix:
I think we should focus on solving problems that modern backend
aren't capable to optimize.<
I agree. But those D snippets I have written are not able to show
what the backends are or aren't able to do. Generally if you
compile D code even with LDC2 you see a significant performan
Sorry for my slow answering, I'm trying to catch up.
Kagamin:
Shouldn't optimization go a different route?
1. Get annoying performance problem.
2. Diagnose it.
3. Optimize the hot spot.
Do you have 1?
That's a good strategy if you are optimizing user code. But even
when you write library c
Sorry for my answers coming so slowly.
Mason McGill:
Is this considered idiomatic?
Time ago I have asked here to make this index 'i' immutable on
default, because the literal "0 .. 10" defines an immutable range
of values:
void main() {
import std.stdio;
foreach (i; 0 .. 10) {
I've been meaning to mention this, but I use
std.experimental.lexer in a code generation tool for our project;
it's worked well so far, and I'd happily recommend its use.
Looking forward to further updates.
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