On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Zuzu's Petals wrote:
> They want C++ (whether they know it yet or not), because it is less
> complex, is easier to learn and use, is stable and has a well-
> defined/directed/managed evolutionary path. That it has some weird
> constructs is a trivial issue relativ
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:00 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Eric Poggel:
>
> > On 11/10/2010 3:16 PM, dsimcha wrote:
> > > Don't make it a class if it can be a free
> > > function.
> >
> > I agree with most of the others except for this one.
>
> Object oriented programming is a way to think about code, s
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
> Andrew Wiley schrieb:
>
>
>> One thought here:
>> If Tango is still useful in the D world but there isn't too much
>> enthusiasm about porting it to D2, why not break its functionality (that
>> isn
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
> Andrew Wiley schrieb:
>
>
>> One thought here:
>> If Tango is still useful in the D world but there isn't too much
>> enthusiasm about porting it to D2, why not break its functionality (that
>> isn
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
> Andrew Wiley schrieb:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Gibson > metalcae...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>Andrew Wiley schrieb:
>>
>>
>>One thought he
hat Scala tends to use structural typing with inline type declarations
(although they don't have to be inline). However, the basic concept is the
same, where a class is dynamically checked for compliance with a static
type. Not quite dynamic typing, but definitely related.
If you're after a more accurate description, how would that work?
Andrew Wiley
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Bruno Medeiros
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2010 14:19, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
>>
>>> way in the future. I think dynamic languages are somewhat of a niche
>>> (even if a gro
tradeoff between convenience and protection there hasn't ever
been considered because the protection definitely isn't worth the
inconvenience of having to start everything from a command prompt.
Andrew Wiley
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:15 AM, spir wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:42:38 -0500
> sybrandy wrote:
>
> > > 2. Make Windows to open .d files with rdmd by default, so I could run
> them
> > > with simple double-click
> > >
> >
> > You should be able to do this yourself quite easily by right-click
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Walter Bright:
>
> > bearophile wrote:
> > > A new fresh trouble, I think I have already seen about 10-15 persons
> ask this question in D.learn:
> > >
> http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?art_group=digitalmars.D.learn&article_id=
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:14 PM, bearophile wrote:
>
>
> If you don't even see the usefulness of more readable linker errors then...
> why are where here? Aren't we trying to improve older languages?
I said that improved error messages would be helpful.
I may have misinterpreted you when you said
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 4:20 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Bruno Medeiros:
>
> > Java is quickly becoming a legacy language? the next COBOL? SRSLY?...
> > Just two years ago, the now hugely popular Android platform choose Java
> > as it's language of choice, and you think Java is becoming legacy?...
>
>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
> On 22/10/2010 04:04, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>
>> On 10/21/2010 08:41 PM, bearophile wrote:
>>
>>> I have suggested yet another attribute, @tagged:
>>> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5097
>>>
>>> Bye, bearophile
>>>
>>
>>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Walter Bright
wrote:
> Bernard Helyer wrote:
>
>> No. The contents of a version block is still parsed. If the D2 code
>> doesn't _parse_ as valid D1, then the D1 compiler will reject it, even if
>> the version block will not be processed further than that.
>>
>
> Y
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Walter Bright
wrote:
> Andrew Wiley wrote:
>
>> I'm a fan of parsing false version blocks, but it seems like there should
>> be some sort of exception for version blocks for a different version of the
>> language. Could they just be s
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu <
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote:
> On 11/21/10 11:59 PM, Rainer Deyke wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/2010 21:56, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/21/10 22:09 CST, Rainer Deyke wrote:
>>>
- When writing code that uses T[], it is
>
> On 24/10/2010 00:46, bearophile wrote:
>
>> Walter:
>>
>>
>> As we all know, tool support is important for D's success. Making tools
>>> easier
>>> to build will help with that.
>>>
>>> To that end, I think we need a lexer for the standard library -
>>> std.lang.d.lex.
>>> It would be helpful
2010/11/30 Walter Bright
> so wrote:
>
>> No need to go that far.
>>
>> void fn(const A, A) {...}
>> A a;
>> fn(a, a); // what do you expect here?
>>
>> As far as i know D/C++ have the same treatment for const member functions.
>> It has been this way forever.
>>
>
>
> Yup. It's why I think it is
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Franciszek Czekala:
>
> > How do you set the stack size for D programs?
>
> On Windows with DMD this is how to set the max stack size to about 1.5 GB
> of the "test.d" module:
> dmd -L/STACK:15 test.d
>
> (I'd like D to have a standard s
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Mike Parker wrote:
> On 12/2/2010 6:12 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, bearophile > <mailto:bearophileh...@lycos.com>> wrote:
>>
>>Franciszek Czekala:
>>
>>
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:50 PM, lurker wrote:
>
> Why don't you retard, I mean eternium, I mean iLikeCakes, I mean snk_kid,
I mean WeAreAllTreeBear, I mean bearophile's alter ego, go someplace else.
Waisting time here is really not worth it. They provide psychiatric
treatment in hospitals. I can'
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>
> And in those rare cases where you are doing a lot of client side work, it
> is so
> brutally slow that if you start piling other runtimes on top of it, you'll
> often
> be left with an unusable mess anyway!
Unless you're using the beta of
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Adam D. Ruppe
> wrote:
>>
>> And in those rare cases where you are doing a lot of client side work, it
>> is so
>> brutally slow that if you start piling other runtimes on to
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>
> A game that was designed to run on a 90-133MHz 16-24MB RAM machine (in
> *software* rendering mode), and was frequently able to get framerates in
> the
> hundreds on sub-500MHz machines (using hardware rendering - with the old,
> old, ol
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Michael Stover" wrote in message
> news:mailman.1041.1292446362.21107.digitalmar...@puremagic.com...
> > >With my own computer, there are things I can do to prevent that. With
> > webapps I'm 100% reliant on someone else: there isn't a d
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>
> Actually if it would be possible to skip the parentheses when the lambda
> take more than one argument I would be more happy with that:
>
> foo(x, y => x * y);
>
>
Pretty sure you'll need parenthesis. Should the above match:
func(int fu
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu <
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote:
> I just added a higher-order function memoize to std.functional which I
> think is pretty cool. See the docs here:
>
>
> http://d-programming-language.org/cutting-edge/phobos/std_functional.html#memoize
>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
> On 13.01.2011 10:40, Jim wrote:
>
>> I don't want to make this Vim-specific, so I'm wondering what features are
>>> we missing in today's D editors/IDE's that other languages already have in
>>> their editors/IDE's?
>>>
>>
>> IDE with inc
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
> On 01/20/2011 12:24 AM, Gour wrote:
>
>> Otoh, with Ubuntu, upgrade from 8.10 to 10.10 is always a major
>> undertaking (I'm familiar with it since '99 when I used SuSE and had
>> experience with deps hell.)
>>
>
> Highlighting the proble
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:08 AM, bearophile wrote:
> Sean Eskapp:
>
> > I want to be able to access the enclosing scope, but NOT after the
> function has
> > exited; I should have the option of accessing the enclosing scope, but at
> the cost
> > of making my delegate not a closure.
>
> It seems a
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 15:37 +, Iain Buclaw wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> > What do we have to do with this? I don't think we have much to gain from
> moving
> > to git. It's not likely to have much effect on the level of interest
> people have
>
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu <
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote:
> On 1/24/11 3:36 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:03:24 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I find documented unittests attractive mainly because they're
>>> _simple_.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Adam Ruppe wrote:
> Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
> > I already have working postgresql row querying. There are typed and
> > untyped rows. Untyped row is DBRow!(Variant[]), typed rows are
> > encapsulated using struct or tuple, for example:
>
> Very nice! I did something
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Denis Koroskin <2kor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:23:21 +0300, Trass3r wrote:
>
> That said I really hope D gets an ARM backend. While it isn't likely for a
>>> DMD to happen, it could for LDC.
>>>
>>
>> As I said in my other answer to this topic
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Gary Whatmore wrote:
> jim_g Wrote:
>
> > What I tried to say is, in my opinion, a language with only a half or a
> quarter of D's improvements over C++ would be more successful on
> smartphone/tablet platforms than yet another x86 oriented language, no
> matter h
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Gary Whatmore wrote:
> Jonathan M Davis Wrote:
>
> > On Sunday 30 January 2011 00:05:59 Gary Whatmore wrote:
> > > jim_g Wrote:
> > > > What I tried to say is, in my opinion, a language with only a half or
> a
> > > > quarter of D's improvements over C++ would be
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
> Am 31.01.2011 11:52, schrieb retard:
>
> Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:36:44 +0100, Daniel Gibson wrote:
>>
>> Am 30.01.2011 13:29, schrieb Michel Fortin:
>>>
On 2011-01-30 03:05:59 -0500, Gary Whatmore said:
D's main focus currently
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Thursday 03 February 2011 19:29:15 Robert Jacques wrote:
> > On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:49:54 -0500, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> > > On 2011-02-03 05:52, Robert Jacques wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:55:37 -0500, %u wrote:
> > >>> I kno
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Gor Gyolchanyan <
gor.f.gyolchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If the user tries to read unallocated memory, the memory can't
> possibly get corrupted, since nothing is getting changed.
> If the user tried to write to unallocated memory, the segfault should
> _prevent_ i
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Gor Gyolchanyan <
> gor.f.gyolchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If the user tries to read unallocated memory, the memory can't
>> possibly get corrupted, since nothing is getti
Okay, I realize there have been some discussions about this, but I have a
few questions about shared delegates because right now they are definitely
broken, but I'm not sure how.
Take this code example:
synchronized class Thing {
void doSomeWork(void delegate() work) {
work
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
> Am 17.10.2011 22:43, schrieb Michel Fortin:
>
> On 2011-10-17 20:33:59 +0000, Andrew Wiley
>> said:
>>
>>
>>> Okay, I realize there have been some discussions about this, but I have a
>>>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
> Am 18.10.2011 08:03, schrieb Andrew Wiley:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Benjamin Thaut > <mailto:c...@benjamin-thaut.de**>> wrote:
>>
>>Am 17.10.2011 22:43, schrieb Michel Fortin:
>&
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
>
>> Am 18.10.2011 08:03, schrieb Andrew Wiley:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Benjamin Thaut >> <mailto:c...@benjamin-thaut.de**>
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2011-10-17 20:33:59 +0000, Andrew Wiley
> said:
>
>
>> Okay, I realize there have been some discussions about this, but I have a
>> few questions about shared delegates because right now they are definitely
>
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2011-10-19 20:36:37 +0000, Andrew Wiley
> said:
>
>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Michel Fortin > >**wrote:
>>
>> On 2011-10-17 20:33:59 +, Andrew Wiley
>>> said:
>>>
>
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Robert Jacques wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:51:25 -0400, Michel Fortin <
> michel.for...@michelf.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2011-10-19 21:53:12 +, Andrew Wiley
>> said:
>>
>
> [snip]
>
> Also, I how shared
Is this a bug, or is my understanding of shared/synchronized still broken:
module test;
synchronized class Bob {
private:
int _i;
invariant() { // test.d(7): Error: function test.Bob.__invariant () shared
is not callable using argument types ()
assert(_i == 5);
}
public:
this() {
_i = 5;
}
@p
My understanding is that this:
module test2;
synchronized abstract class Bob {
private:
int _i = 2;
public:
@property
int i() {
return _i;
}
}
synchronized class Bill : Bob {
public:
@property
int thing() {
return i;
}
}
should be the same as this:
module test2;
syn
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Marco Leise wrote:
> Am 14.09.2011, 18:57 Uhr, schrieb Steven Schveighoffer <
> schvei...@yahoo.com>:
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:50:25 -0400, Timon Gehr wrote:
>>
>> On 09/14/2011 04:08 PM, Robert McGinley wrote:
>>>
Hey all,
Mostly as an exercise I
Geez, I try to write some multithreaded code and I just keep hitting these:
module test3;
struct SomeData {
int i;
int iPlus2() {
return i + 2;
}
}
synchronized class Bob {
private:
SomeData _dat;
public:
this() {
_dat.i = 3;
}
@property
int i() {
return _dat.iPlus2(); // test3.d(2
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
> Am 25.10.2011 08:06, schrieb Andrew Wiley:
>
> Geez, I try to write some multithreaded code and I just keep hitting
>> these:
>>
>> module test3;
>>
>> struct SomeData {
>
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Gor Gyolchanyan <
gor.f.gyolchan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And so you can have both thread-safe synchronized heavy-duty container
> and a fast and small container all in one just by overloading the
> appropriate methods and adding appropriate synchronization blocks in
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> On 10/25/2011 06:24 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Gor Gyolchanyan
>> > <mailto:gor.f.gyolchanyan@**gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>And so you
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Chante wrote:
>
> "Manu" wrote in message
> news:mailman.586.1319935753.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com...
>
> > What's the deal with core.cpuid?
>
> I think they just want the "mainstream"
> ("sheeple"/"followers"/"believers"/"90210_ers"/"younsters", etc.). I
About a month or so ago, I started trying to convert a codebase I've been
working on into a multithreaded system, and I've been hitting this sort of
thing over and over:
// used as a field and as a local variable all over the codebase
struct Data {
int a,b,c;
int total() {
return a + b +
Gah, looks like I accidentally sent this as an HTML message, and the
web newsreader stripped out part of the sample code (
http://digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?art_group=digitalmars.D&article_id=149624
)
Here's the message again in plain text:
About a month or so ago, I started trying to
This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
import std.concurrency;
import std.stdio;
class Bob {
}
void main() {
auto tid = spawn(&b);
tid.send(new immutable(Bob)());
}
void b() {
receive(
(immutable(Bob) b) {
writeln("got it");
}
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:24:02 Andrew Wiley wrote:
>> This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
>>
>> import std.concurrency;
>> import std.stdio;
>>
>> class Bo
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:24:02 Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>> This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
>>>
>>> imp
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> On 12/4/11 4:16 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like right now, message passing is copying objects, which
>> seems very bad. Check this out:
>>
>> import std.stdio;
>>
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> On 12/04/2011 11:32 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/4/11 4:16 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>&g
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> On 12/4/11 4:32 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> In that case, no object copying is occurring, and I have message
>> passing for immutable objects working, although my current solution is
>> basically to
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Sean Kelly wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Manu wrote:
>>
>> Just digging through concurrence.d since the docs are pretty bare, and I've
>> come across this pattern, which raises a pretty worrying alarm to me. I
>> wonder if this is common in D libraries...
>
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Sean Kelly wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> This is somewhat of a threadjack, but I was looking at making a
>> lighter actor-like abstraction for message passing, and possibly
>> making it compatible with
Is there a syntax that allows me to specify arguments to a templated
constructor for a struct? The intuitive way looks like this, but it
doesn't work.
---
struct Test {
this(T, bool b)(T info) if((b && something ) || (!b && somethingElse)) {
}
}
void main() {
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> Is there a syntax that allows me to specify arguments to a templated
> constructor for a struct? The intuitive way looks like this, but it
> doesn't work.
>
> ---
> struct Test {
> this(T, bool b)(T info) i
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Trass3r wrote:
>> Looks like I can work around it by doing this:
>> ---
>> template makeTest(T, bool b) {
>> static if((b && something) || (!b && somethingElse)) {
>> alias Test makeTest;
>> }
>> else static assert(0, "some error message");
>> }
>>
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:00 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
> I certainly appreciate the general statement, as keeping ones users happy is
> one of the most important, if not the single most important thing, to a
> positive image.
>
> However, please don't forget that there has already been put quite
---
class Bob {
}
void doSomething(T)(Bob bob, T data) {
}
void main() {
doSomething(null, 5); // Error: template test.doSomething(T) does not
match any function template declaration
// Error: template test.doSomething(T) cannot deduce template
function from argument types !()(voi
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> On 12/11/11 6:05 AM, kenji hara wrote:
>>
>> 2.057 will compile this code, because it adds the new feature.
>> Now null literal has the type that is expressed as typeof(null), not
>> void*.
>> And typeof(null) is derived from all class
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> On 12/12/11 2:06 PM, Peter Alexander wrote:
>>
>> On 12/12/11 7:52 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>
>>> I've added a sitemap to the website:
>>>
>>> http://dlang.org/sitemap.html
>>>
>>> I've already removed a bunch of obsolete docume
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Robert Clipsham
wrote:
> I just read this pretty interesting article on the Google Engineering Tools
> website, thought it might interest some people here:
>
> http://google-engtools.blogspot.com/2011/12/bug-prediction-at-google.html
>
> ( http://goo.gl/2O6YT <= a
Is this a bug?
```
struct SomeStruct {
@disable this();
this(int arg) {
}
}
class SomeClass {
private:
SomeStruct _stuff;
public:
this() {
_stuff = SomeStruct(10);
}
}
void someFunc() {
SomeClass obj
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> On 12/16/2011 09:20 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> Is this a bug?
>>
>> ```
>> struct SomeStruct {
>> @disable this();
>> this(int arg) {
>> }
>> }
>>
>
I was looking through Jonathan Davis's pull request to remove static
constructors from std.datetime, and I realized that I don't know
whether Double Checked Locking is legal under D's memory model, and
what the requirements for it to work would be.
(if you're not familiar with the term, check out
h
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> I was looking through Jonathan Davis's pull request to remove static
> constructors from std.datetime, and I realized that I don't know
> whether Double Checked Locking is legal under D's memory model, and
> what
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen
wrote:
> On 18-12-2011 12:45, Somedude wrote:
>>
>> Le 18/12/2011 12:13, Ruslan Mullakhmetov a écrit :
>>>
>>> I do not want to make a flame over D vs C++11.
>>>
>>> ...
>>> Once again, i'm not trying to make a holywar. I'm D lover myself. But
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> On 12/19/2011 12:45 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, 18 December 2011 at 23:31:03 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/19/2011 12:24 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Sunday, 18 December 2011 at 23:18:22 UTC, Timon Gehr wr
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> so Wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:08:54 +0200, Paulo Pinto
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The SunSpot VM is written in Java with a very small subset of C code.
>> > http://www.sunspotworld.com
>> > http://labs.oracle.com/projects/squawk/squawk-rjvm.htm
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Walter Bright
wrote:
> I'm looking for volunteers to convert all the remaining patches in Bugzilla
> to pull requests.
I could take a crack at it, although if you're going to do that, why
not move the issue tracking to Github as well and take advantage of
the int
Is there any way to get a reference to an object's monitor? This would
be very useful because a Condition has to be tied to a Mutex, and
since objects already have a reference to a Mutex built in, it doesn't
make much sense to create another (and add another reference to the
class) when the end eff
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:29 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Andrew Wiley:
>
>> Is there any way to get a reference to an object's monitor?
>
> Is this useful? From the D2 docs:
>
>> The properties .__vptr and .__monitor give access to the class object's
>&g
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:40 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Andrew Wiley:
>
>> I suspect the reason they advise not using it in user code is that the
>> monitor is lazily initialized (if I remember correctly), so I'd have
>> to initialize it myself.
>
> I see.
It lo
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Sean Kelly wrote:
> Yup.
>
Do you have any plans to eliminate the fun things like
(cast()condition).wait();
?
It seems like most of the classes in core.sync should be declared as
shared classes. I realize there would be code breakage, but having to
cast away shar
Is this a bug, or are templated struct constructors not allowed to
call other constructors?
---
struct A {
this(T)(T thing, int i) {
this(thing, i > 0); // Error: constructor call must be in a constructor
}
this(T)(T thing, bool b) {
}
}
void main() {
auto a = A(5, 5);
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:32 PM, kenji hara wrote:
> Please file it into bugzilla, because it is a bug.
> I'll post a patch to fix it.
>
> Kenji Hara
>
Filed: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7150
Thanks!
I'm having some issues getting the synchronized modifier to work like
a synchronized block. Sorry this code example is long, but here's
three dummy implementations of a Condition-based work queue:
---import std.stdio;
import core.sync.mutex;
import core.sync.condition;
import core.thread;
synchro
Alright, looks like my code examples were too long (see Some Issues
With Synchronized), but I've found an issue with synchronized that I
think might be a bug (or a design bug).
In simple terms, constructors for synchronized classes are
synchronized. This should rarely cause problems, but it's unnec
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Somedude wrote:
> On windows XP with DMD 2.057, I get
> Queue1: deadlock
> Queue2: works
> Queue3: works
Yes, I posted another (much shorter) post describing the issue with
Queue1. In short, since Queue1 is a synchronized class, the
constructor is synchronized (wh
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Somedude wrote:
>> On windows XP with DMD 2.057, I get
>> Queue1: deadlock
>> Queue2: works
>> Queue3: works
>
> Yes, I posted another (much shorter) post describing the iss
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Steve Teale
wrote:
> Now here's an interesting target for D - this little beast could sell in
> millions, and could be the way that many youngsters start out as
> programmers.
>
> Presumably LDC would be the quickest thing to get on there?
>
> Steve
GDC on ARM ha
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2011-12-24 08:26, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Steve Teale
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Now here's an interesting target for D - this little beast could sell in
>
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2011-12-23 22:38, Somedude wrote:
>>
>> Le 23/12/2011 18:11, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm actually inching closer to being a linux guy. Being able to easily
>>> script just about everything is pretty nice, and after Vista, Wi
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen
wrote:
> On 24-12-2011 17:20, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2011-12-24 08:26, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen
wrote:
> On 26-12-2011 06:41, Nathan Coe wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to change what is compiled in based on whether the -m32 or
>> -m64
>> option is chosen? I can see that there are predefined versions (for X86
>> and
>> X86_64 e.g.), but I don'
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Caligo wrote:
> At the moment I don't see how anything serious can be done with D. In the
> past few weeks, while working on a _toy_ project, I've encountered several
> bugs that have caused a lot of problems and wasted a lot of time. Sorry,
> but it's just frust
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Saturday, December 31, 2011 16:06:49 Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> On 2011-12-31 11:37, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> > On Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:05:58 Tobias Pankrath wrote:
>> >>> I think that the AssertError's message (which includes
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM, bearophile wrote:
> Jonathan M Davis:
>
>> I'm not saying anything about the value of the feature. I'm just saying that
>> given D's lineage, it's not at all suprising that it doesn't support multiple
>> return values. In fact, it would be very abnormal if it did. T
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Sean Kelly wrote:
> On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Andrew Wiley
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Somedude
>>> wrote:
>>>> On windows XP with DM
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