This sort of reference count with cyclic dependency detector is how a lot of
scripting languages do it, or did it in the past. The problem was that lazy
generational GCs are believed to have better throughput in general.
I'd like to say were proved rather than are believed, but I don't
actually
And CAPTCHAs prove that javascript and browsers are terrible???
You must have failed logic class. Probably you never took it, knowing how
poorly you would do.
I should criticize your precious local apps because some require dongles.
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Adam Ruppe
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote:
Michael Stover michael.r.sto...@gmail.com wrote in message
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And CAPTCHAs prove that javascript and browsers are terrible???
Where are you gettng that? That's
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote:
Michael Stover michael.r.sto...@gmail.com wrote in message
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there's no integration with the
external environment
But it is an advantage at the same time
And that's the problem - we're talking about applications that happen to be
distributed via the web, not a website. Everyone's demands that it work
in lynx, FF2, with javascript turned off, etc are ludicrous. You don't get
to make such demands of applications. Some applications are Windows only.
All of your complaints are about specific choices of the developers, not the
technology. Right now, javascript and web apps are being written (for the
most part) by young, inexperienced, often graphically-oriented individuals.
Soon, more experience developers will join the scene and start
And no, I'm *not* playing semantics games here: Distributed via the
web means exactly what it means
Of course you're playing semantic games. Not being very helpful in the
discussion. You seem to be arguing that if the content arrived via http
it must work in lynx or else it sucks. Perhaps I
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM, retard r...@tard.com.invalid wrote:
Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:40:50 -0600, Andrew Wiley wrote:
The point was that while Javascript is slow, it's getting fast enough
to be useful. Yes, it's not C. It will never be. But the fact that any
sort of realtime
horrible?
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote:
Michael Stover michael.r.sto...@gmail.com wrote in message
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And no, I'm *not* playing semantics games here: Distributed via the
web means exactly what
Trying to
make an online payment to Visa or check on one of Visa's policies? Are you
gonna be able to do that at MasterCard's website? With desktop software
stuff like that rarely happens. Basically, websites/webapps have a greater
need for compatibility than desktop apps do.
Again, we're not
Do you complain that Excel doesn't not degrade gracefully? Why would
someone even think to load the app in lynx? Do you load excel files in
lynx?
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Adam D. Ruppe destructiona...@gmail.comwrote:
Michael Stover wrote:
If I provide a spreadsheet program via
With my own computer, there are things I can do to prevent that. With
webapps I'm 100% reliant on someone else: there isn't a damn thing I can do.
But what about your group-think lemming mother?
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote:
Michael Stover michael.r.sto
So much hate because you can't middle-click paste. Swearing and
AAAggghhing, loathing, etc. It's childish and hard to take such
attitudes seriously. The world moves on and doesn't care that you can't
adapt to the simplest of things.
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Adam D. Ruppe
there's no integration with the
external environment
But it is an advantage at the same time as it's a weakness. The advantage
is, I can read and use gmail or google docs anywhere, firewall or not.
I could sit here at home, open an openoffice doc, write in it, save it.
Then tomorrow go to
Facebook is hardly a fair example - they are not a true webapp and are more
interested in numbers of users than quality of their app. Someone who was
serious about making an application over the web would simply require Chrome
or Firefox, and then 99% of your incompatibility issues go away, as
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Adam Ruppe destructiona...@gmail.comwrote:
Have you tried, for example, CoffeeScript:
I have not - my main problem with Javascript isn't so much the
language as the browsers in which it runs, which is why I feel things
like emscripten (and google native
I don't have any problems you seem to have with gmail. I suspect attitude
is a big difference.
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Adam D. Ruppe destructiona...@gmail.comwrote:
Michael Stover:
Did you use the gmail webapp to write that?
No. My public email address is gmail so I get a free
I've used Pegasus, thunderbird, Exchange, Evolution, and whatever is on my
Mac by default (briefly). I've used other web emails too, including one for
Exchange, which is terrible. Some of your complaints are not generic to
javascript/web apps - like the right click complaint. It can be done
LOL. I'd _love_ to use D at work, but so much of our code is in C++ and
must
compile with Visual Studio that the fact that C++ doesn't integrate with D
all
that well and the fact that you have to use dmc on Windows for the C or C++
code
if you want to link it with D code make it so that it
As for D lexers and tokenizers, what would be nice is to
A) build an antlr grammar for D
B) build D targets for antlr so that antlr can generate lexers and parsers
in the D language.
For B) I found http://www.mbutscher.de/antlrd/index.html
For A) A good list of antlr grammars is at
so that was 4 months ago - how do things currently stand on that initiative?
-Mike
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Bruno Medeiros
brunodomedeiros+s...@com.gmail wrote:
On 19/11/2010 22:25, Michael Stover wrote:
As for D lexers and tokenizers, what would be nice is to
A) build an antlr
An operating system written in D would be really interesting.
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Andrej Mitrovic
andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/6/10, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote:
sybrandy sybra...@gmail.com wrote in message
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Just asking out
Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still
alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a
release yet. What do actual D programmers use?
-Mike
...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm by no means an actual D programmer but I like to use Code::Blocks.
I've heard VisualD and Descent are also very nice.
There's also a guy working on D.dev (
http://d-dev-ide.blogspot.com/2010/07/ddev-progress-july-2010.html).
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Michael Stover
working on D.dev (
http://d-dev-ide.blogspot.com/2010/07/ddev-progress-july-2010.html).
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Michael Stover
michael.r.sto...@gmail.comwrote:
Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is
still
alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active
...@yage3d.netwrote:
On 10/12/2010 9:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote:
Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is
still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't
have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use?
-Mike
As an Eclipse fan (don't laugh
, Michael Stover wrote:
Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release.
Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for
me. Poseidon is also Windows-only.
Descent is dead? The change log shows recent activity (
http://dsource.org/projects
Thank you for helping me understand.
Mike
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Simen kjaeraas simen.kja...@gmail.comwrote:
Michael Stover michael.r.sto...@gmail.com wrote:
I am under the impression that passing a pointer to a static function (ie,
passing a pointer to a memory address
to
work on Mac, Windows, and Linux user desktops.
-Mike
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Lars T. Kyllingstad
pub...@kyllingen.nospamnet wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:30:52 -0400, Michael Stover wrote:
Can one call fortran libraries from D? Ie, say one wanted to use LAPACK
from D?
Since
.
Is this feasible with D2?
Thanks,
Michael Stover
...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:03:51 +0200, Michael Stover
michael.r.sto...@gmail.com wrote:
I am wondering if D would be a good choice for our differential equation
modeling app. What it needs to be able to do is dynamically compile D
code
into a static function that can
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