Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-23 Thread Marco Leise
Am Thu, 17 May 2012 22:10:23 -0400 schrieb Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com: Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.904.1337305802.24740.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... On 5/18/12, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote: Is it really

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 17/05/12 01:45, Nick Sabalausky wrote: My main point is that those features (fork/pull request/issue tracking, etc) should be decoupled from hosting so that, for example, self-hosted repos would *not* provide inferior service, in fact they woudn't have to provide some stupid bundled interface

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote in message news:mailman.886.1337255711.24740.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... On 17/05/12 01:45, Nick Sabalausky wrote: My main point is that those features (fork/pull request/issue tracking, etc) should be decoupled from hosting so

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote in message news:jp3ocp$2e1c$1...@digitalmars.com... 2. The protocols (ie. either git/hg/etc or better yet a standard extension that handles both git and hg) would then incorporate the things that github/bitbucket have proven to be

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote in message news:jp3oq2$2esa$1...@digitalmars.com... Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote in message news:jp3ocp$2e1c$1...@digitalmars.com... 2. The protocols (ie. either git/hg/etc or better yet a standard

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:51:04PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: [...] Have you ever heard of, or even read, Hugi Magazine? ( http://www.hugi.scene.org/main.php?page=hugi ). It has interesting content, but the format is absolutely moronic: Instead of coming in PDF or HTML or even DOC or

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote in message news:mailman.902.1337292243.24740.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:51:04PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: [...] Have you ever heard of, or even read, Hugi Magazine? ( http://www.hugi.scene.org/main.php?page=hugi ). It

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 5/18/12, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote: Is it really that bad? Speaking of Github, it's really annoying how many projects get listed here even though they have nothing to do with D: https://github.com/languages/D/created I don't understand how Github manages to pick up so many

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Andrej Mitrovic andrej.mitrov...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.904.1337305802.24740.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... On 5/18/12, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote: Is it really that bad? Speaking of Github, it's really annoying how many projects get listed here even though they

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-16 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Tue, 15 May 2012 11:43:42 -0400, Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote: I'm well aware that it's deliberate, but it's still anti-competetive, asinine and anachronistic. And it's not as if the whole hosting thing isn't worth anything. That is, after all, what they

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-16 Thread Geoffrey Biggs
On May 16, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2012 11:43:42 -0400, Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote: I'm well aware that it's deliberate, but it's still anti-competetive, asinine and anachronistic. And it's not as if the whole hosting

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-16 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 16/05/12 15:09, Geoffrey Biggs wrote: Projects that don't operate around sites like github rely on messages to a mailing list asking the integrator to pull from some branch of some repository. Although I'm sure the Linux kernel works like this, I haven't seen it, but I have seen the same

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-16 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 15/05/12 04:16, Nick Sabalausky wrote: I firmly believe that GitHub/BitBucket/etc-style features need to be standard *protocols*, not features bundled inseparably to project hosting. What the hell is this, 1980 all over again where data is routinely tied inseparably to the software it

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-16 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote in message news:mailman.840.1337179907.24740.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... On 15/05/12 04:16, Nick Sabalausky wrote: I firmly believe that GitHub/BitBucket/etc-style features need to be standard *protocols*, not features bundled

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Mike Parker
On 5/14/2012 11:06 PM, Gor Gyolchanyan wrote: I was browsing dsource.org http://dsource.org for some libraries, that I need and every single project, that I looked at was either completely abandoned or stuck with the ancient D1. Is there at least one sane project in there or is dsource.org

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2012-05-15 08:32, Mike Parker wrote: Derelict 2 is still alive and kicking there. Plus, the Derelict forum there is where I support both Derelict 2 3. The forum for Derelict is basically the only one which is active. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Gor Gyolchanyan
Derelict 3 is under development and is on github, so Derelict is not gonna be on dsource.org for too long, A plethora of dead projects on dsource.org is a good way to scare away newcomers, i think. On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote: On 2012-05-15 08:32, Mike

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
On 15.05.2012 14:04, Gor Gyolchanyan wrote: Derelict 3 is under development and is on github, so Derelict is not gonna be on dsource.org http://dsource.org for too long, A plethora of dead projects on dsource.org http://dsource.org is a good way to scare away newcomers, i think. I think that

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Gor Gyolchanyan
I agree. That way it will become more apparent what really needs to be written for D. Currently there appears to be a lot of stuff written for D, when there's not more, then just a few. Also, I think there should be a strict division of D1 and D2 projects (where projects, supporting both would

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Jens Mueller
Gor Gyolchanyan wrote: I agree. That way it will become more apparent what really needs to be written for D. Currently there appears to be a lot of stuff written for D, when there's not more, then just a few. Also, I think there should be a strict division of D1 and D2 projects (where

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread foobar
On Tuesday, 15 May 2012 at 02:36:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Kapps opantm2+s...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gvuqhcqczjqmdtpsa...@forum.dlang.org... It would be nice to make a replacement to dsource. There's a fair few problems with it. For one, people prefer hosting their source on

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Mike Parker
On 5/15/2012 7:04 PM, Gor Gyolchanyan wrote: Derelict 3 is under development and is on github, so Derelict is not gonna be on dsource.org http://dsource.org for too long, It will be there as long as DSource exists. I have no plans to move it. My only real alternatives for the forum is to host

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Gor Gyolchanyan
Since you're here, I can't seem to get my hands on the sdl2.dll, which is required by Derelict3's SDL binding. Can you tell me where I can get it? The official SDL 2.0 snapshot doesn't build currently. On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Mike Parker aldac...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/15/2012 7:04 PM,

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Nick Sabalausky
foobar f...@bar.com wrote in message news:cuucmsymdqnsrurlk...@forum.dlang.org... On Tuesday, 15 May 2012 at 02:36:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Kapps opantm2+s...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gvuqhcqczjqmdtpsa...@forum.dlang.org... It would be nice to make a replacement to dsource.

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Gor Gyolchanyan
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote: This is why OSS software will always be better (on average) than commercial: No managers to fuck things up. This is so true! Commercial software sucks not because it costs money, but because of being

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-15 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote in message news:jottlr$stf$1...@digitalmars.com... foobar f...@bar.com wrote in message news:cuucmsymdqnsrurlk...@forum.dlang.org... Sure it doesn't support pull requests but that's the base for GitHub's business model - they make

Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-14 Thread Gor Gyolchanyan
I was browsing dsource.org for some libraries, that I need and every single project, that I looked at was either completely abandoned or stuck with the ancient D1. Is there at least one sane project in there or is dsource.org an ancient fossil for museum display? Sorry for my frustration. --

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-14 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Mon, 14 May 2012 10:06:12 -0400, Gor Gyolchanyan gor.f.gyolchan...@gmail.com wrote: I was browsing dsource.org for some libraries, that I need and every single project, that I looked at was either completely abandoned or stuck with the ancient D1. Is there at least one sane project in

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-14 Thread Kagamin
ancient D1. druntime has assembler code, assembler is more ancient than D1, druntime belongs to D2, so D2 is more ancient than D1. Whoops! It's a time paradox!

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-14 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Gor Gyolchanyan gor.f.gyolchan...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.722.1337004471.24740.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... I was browsing dsource.org for some libraries, that I need and every single project, that I looked at was either completely abandoned or stuck with the ancient D1. Is

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-14 Thread Kapps
It would be nice to make a replacement to dsource. There's a fair few problems with it. For one, people prefer hosting their source on Github or Bitbucket or such, it's silly to try and get people to use your own source control hosting instead of just pointing to one of those. Another would be

Re: Is dsource .org completely deserted?

2012-05-14 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Kapps opantm2+s...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gvuqhcqczjqmdtpsa...@forum.dlang.org... It would be nice to make a replacement to dsource. There's a fair few problems with it. For one, people prefer hosting their source on Github or Bitbucket or such, it's silly to try and get people to