On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:11:02 +0200
"Adam D. Ruppe" wrote:
> On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 20:17:11 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > - Adam's HTML DOM (And I cached partial and full results in
> > memory, of course, so I wasn't DOMming it up on every request)
>
> DOMing it up every request rox. Th
On 2012-07-23 13:21, Michel Fortin wrote:
Abstraction layers for GUI are not inherently bad, but they also tend to
blur platform specificities. This often results in apps that feel a
little alien on every platform. So whether you should use them or not
depends on your priorities.
I think a sys
On 2012-07-23 05:04:39 +, Nick Sabalausky
said:
Personally I like abstraction layers for GUI: it means you don't have to
deal with twenty different system-specific (and idiosyncratic) APIs.
For example, I hope I never have to touch Win32 directly again.
Win32 is a special case. It's old
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:59:32 +0200
"Paulo Pinto" wrote:
> >"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message
> >news:20120723010439.6efc@unknown... I wouldn't know. I haven't
> >actually dealt with the android SDK directly, only Marm. When I saw
> >google saying you use either Java or straight natively-com
On 2012-07-23 08:59, Paulo Pinto wrote:
No, actually you are still dealing with JNI. Google's position on native
code, is that
you should use it just for code hotspots, gamming or to port "legacy" code.
The Android native applications APIs are C wrappers around JNI calls,
meaning you get a p
On 2012-07-21 21:59, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
On 21-07-2012 21:51, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobile devices, like
iOS and Android. I'm not personally a fan of them, but nonetheless those
things are HUGE (no pun intended). And yet the ONLY real lan
"Nick Sabalausky" wrote in message news:20120723010439.6efc@unknown...
I wouldn't know. I haven't actually dealt with the android SDK
directly, only Marm. When I saw google saying you use either Java or
straight natively-compiled C++, I guess I assumed that meant an actual
C++ API.
No, actu
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:58:20 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
>
> Marmalade, from what I see, is some sort of meta-platform you can use
> to write something that works everywhere. It adds a new layer of
> abstraction that can work on top of each platform. Good for them and
> their developers, but I
On 2012-07-22 19:05:45 +, Nick Sabalausky
said:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:19:12 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
On 2012-07-21 19:51:37 +, Nick Sabalausky
said:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive
in
Am 22.07.2012 20:46, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:14:23 +0200
Paulo Pinto wrote:
y :=&x[0]
fmt.Println("Base adress ", y)
size := unsafe.Sizeof(x[0])
fmt.Println("Size per element ", size)
for i := 0; i< len(x); i++ {
c
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:19:12 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2012-07-21 19:51:37 +, Nick Sabalausky
> said:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
> > Michel Fortin wrote:
> >>
> >> And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive
> >> in the GUI area.
> >
> > Yes. B
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:14:23 +0200
Paulo Pinto wrote:
> y := &x[0]
> fmt.Println("Base adress ", y)
> size := unsafe.Sizeof(x[0])
> fmt.Println("Size per element ", size)
> for i := 0; i < len(x); i++ {
> cell := uint64(uintptr(unsafe.Pointer(y))) +
> (u
Just curious, do you know if Alexander Stepanov uses D or not?
Am 22.07.2012 14:19, schrieb Michel Fortin:
On 2012-07-21 19:51:37 +, Nick Sabalausky
said:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive in
the GUI area.
Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobil
Am 22.07.2012 10:42, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 01:24 -0700
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 10:10:43 Paulo Pinto wrote:
Am 22.07.2012 01:13, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
Paulo Pinto wrote:
Regarding systems programming, Go
On 2012-07-21 19:51:37 +, Nick Sabalausky
said:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive in
the GUI area.
Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobile devices, like
iOS and Android. I'm not per
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 01:24 -0700
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Sunday, July 22, 2012 10:10:43 Paulo Pinto wrote:
> > Am 22.07.2012 01:13, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
> > > On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
> > >
> > > Paulo Pinto wrote:
> > >> Regarding systems programming, Go could actually play i
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 10:10:43 Paulo Pinto wrote:
> Am 22.07.2012 01:13, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
> >
> > Paulo Pinto wrote:
> >> Regarding systems programming, Go could actually play in the same
> >> league as D
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> The trick with Ob
Am 22.07.2012 01:13, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
Paulo Pinto wrote:
Regarding systems programming, Go could actually play in the same
league as D
[...]
The trick with Oberon, which Go also uses, is to have a special module
reckognised by the compiler with prim
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 05:14:57 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
I'm back from OSCON 2012, where my talk has enjoyed a somewhat
unexpected good reception (OSCON is not the most down-D's-alley
audience).
The talk abstract is at
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/23888 a
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 14:08:48 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 13:47:06 UTC, Michel Fortin wrote:
The web is a low-hanging fruit for D.
Yea, I've been eating that fruit for years.
+1
Web development with D is quite easy and very enjoyable.
With Adam's work it e
On 7/21/12 10:16 PM, Brad Anderson wrote:
The Go people no longer refer to Go as a systems language. I believe
they did intend for it to be a systems language in the same manner D is
but over time they decided to focus less on that.
Here's what Russ Cox said on that matter:
"We removed the wor
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 19:13:20 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
> >
> > Paulo Pinto wrote:
> > > Regarding systems programming, Go could actually play in the same
> > > league as D
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >
On Saturday, July 21, 2012 19:13:20 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
>
> Paulo Pinto wrote:
> > Regarding systems programming, Go could actually play in the same
> > league as D
>
> [...]
>
> > The trick with Oberon, which Go also uses, is to have a special module
> >
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:41:05 +0200
Paulo Pinto wrote:
>
> Regarding systems programming, Go could actually play in the same
> league as D
[...]
> The trick with Oberon, which Go also uses, is to have a special module
> reckognised by the compiler with primitives to do the low tricks C
> offers.
On 7/21/12 4:17 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
What do you mean by "make it easy to assemble Vladimir's and Adam's web
libraries from preexisting parts"?
I mean putting much of their work in std, such that people can write
their own Web/NNTP/CGI/etc stuff with much less code than they had to write
On 7/21/12 4:17 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Side note though: Seriously, no download with registration?!? WTF
Crap. Didn't know, otherwise I might've chosen differently.
Andrei
On 7/21/12 3:59 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
GDC is pretty far along as far as ARM support goes; I intend to have
another run through it one of these days to look at any remaining issues.
That's awesome. I got a feel at OSCON that a combination of big iron +
ARM-based small devices is the mo
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 16:45:20 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Would you agree if someone took your code, modified it for the
purposes of passing it through the forks of the review process,
and pushed it into Phobos?
Yes, no problem at all.
You'd still receive credit, of course, but it
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 20:17:11 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
- Adam's HTML DOM (And I cached partial and full results in
memory, of course, so I wasn't DOMming it up on every request)
DOMing it up every request rox. That's what I do and so far
the impact of those have been negligible in th
On 21-07-2012 22:26, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:59:12 +0200
Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
On 21-07-2012 21:51, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive
in the GUI area.
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:17:00 -0400
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:14:57 -0400
> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>
> > I'm back from OSCON 2012, where my talk has enjoyed a somewhat
> > unexpected good reception (OSCON is not the most down-D's-alley
> > audience).
> >
> > The talk
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:59:12 +0200
Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> On 21-07-2012 21:51, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
> > Michel Fortin wrote:
> >>
> >> And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive
> >> in the GUI area.
> >>
> >
> > Yes. But the
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:14:57 -0400
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I'm back from OSCON 2012, where my talk has enjoyed a somewhat
> unexpected good reception (OSCON is not the most down-D's-alley
> audience).
>
> The talk abstract is at
> http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/2388
On 21-07-2012 21:51, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive in
the GUI area.
Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobile devices, like
iOS and Android. I'm not personally a
On 7/21/12 1:14 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I'm back from OSCON 2012, where my talk has enjoyed a somewhat
unexpected good reception (OSCON is not the most down-D's-alley audience).
The talk abstract is at
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/23888 and the
slides are at
http:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:47:06 -0400
Michel Fortin wrote:
>
> And also, more and more it'd require ARM support to be competitive in
> the GUI area.
>
Yes. But there's an even bigger reason for ARM: Mobile devices, like
iOS and Android. I'm not personally a fan of them, but nonetheless those
thin
On 7/21/12 10:08 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 13:47:06 UTC, Michel Fortin wrote:
The web is a low-hanging fruit for D.
Yea, I've been eating that fruit for years.
While my libs are out there, I haven't gotten around to
doing the rest of the documentation or anything.
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 13:47:06 UTC, Michel Fortin wrote:
The web is a low-hanging fruit for D.
Yea, I've been eating that fruit for years.
While my libs are out there, I haven't gotten around to
doing the rest of the documentation or anything. My libraries
are just a means to an end to
On 2012-07-21 06:48:57 +, Paulo Pinto said:
We need something like std.database for web development, which as far as
I know is currently on hold.
WinRT support would also be a nice feature. Need to spend some time
checking how to work with type libraries.
The web is a low-hanging fruit
Am 21.07.2012 10:20, schrieb Jonathan M Davis:
On Saturday, July 21, 2012 08:48:57 Paulo Pinto wrote:
After becoming disapointed with Go leaving in the past, I've come to the
conclusion that between the two, D is a much better choice.
I still need to study up on Go one of these days (along wit
On Saturday, July 21, 2012 08:48:57 Paulo Pinto wrote:
> After becoming disapointed with Go leaving in the past, I've come to the
> conclusion that between the two, D is a much better choice.
I still need to study up on Go one of these days (along with a variety of
other languages which are on my
Am 21.07.2012 07:14, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu:
I'm back from OSCON 2012, where my talk has enjoyed a somewhat
unexpected good reception (OSCON is not the most down-D's-alley audience).
The talk abstract is at
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/23888 and the
slides are at
ht
I'm back from OSCON 2012, where my talk has enjoyed a somewhat
unexpected good reception (OSCON is not the most down-D's-alley audience).
The talk abstract is at
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012/public/schedule/detail/23888 and the
slides are at
http://www.slideshare.net/andreialexandrescu1/gen
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