On Tue, 02 Oct 2018 14:49:31 +, bachmeier wrote:
> I think this is something that could be done *in addition to* DConf. I
> honestly don't think DConf is very effective at promoting D, except
> perhaps to a small sliver of the overall population of programmers, due
> to the content of most of
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 10:02:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 08:06 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
The link in my OP links to a guy who maintained a spreadsheet
of Apple-related conferences as evidence. He lists several
that went away and says nothing
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 08:06 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> The link in my OP links to a guy who maintained a spreadsheet of
> Apple-related conferences as evidence. He lists several that went
> away and says nothing replaced them. If you don't even examine
> the evidence
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 08:54:29 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 08:06:24 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 07:53:54 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
[...]
Did anybody pay attention to the live talks either? ;) That's
the real comparison.
Anyway, the
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 08:06:24 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 07:53:54 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
I went to a conference once where they had mixed live talks
and prerecorded talks - questions where taken at the end to
the speaker of the prerecorded talk via a sip
On Thursday, 4 October 2018 at 07:12:03 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 18:46 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
I don't doubt that some are like you and prefer viewing live,
but given how conferences keep dying off and online tech talks
are booming, you're in an
On 04/10/2018 8:53 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
I went to a conference once where they had mixed live talks and
prerecorded talks - questions where taken at the end to the speaker of
the prerecorded talk via a sip call.
The organisers at the end admitted that the prerecorded talks experiment
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 16:17:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 01:28:37 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/2/18 4:34 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 09:39:14 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote:
[snip]
I disagree.
It is not
On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 18:46 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> I don't doubt that some are like you and prefer viewing live, but
> given how conferences keep dying off and online tech talks are
> booming, you're in an extreme minority that prefers that
> high-cost live version.
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 18:46:02 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Except that you can also view the videos at home, then discuss
them later at a conference, which is the actual suggestion here.
Maybe that would work better with a smaller group? I imagine some
people are too busy to do that
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 17:51:00 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 17:26 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d
wrote: […]
At least look at the first two bullet points in my post
responding to Adam, because you're missing the entire point of
my suggestions, which is that certain
On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 17:26 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
> At least look at the first two bullet points in my post
> responding to Adam, because you're missing the entire point of my
> suggestions, which is that certain things like talks are better
> suited to online whereas
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 17:13:51 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 16:21:45 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Like most of the responses in this thread, I have no idea why
you're stumping for in-person interaction, when all my
suggestions were geared around having _more
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 16:21:45 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Like most of the responses in this thread, I have no idea why
you're stumping for in-person interaction, when all my
suggestions were geared around having _more in-person
interaction_.
If you're still not sure what I mean, read this
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 11:48:06 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next
DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the
conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 01:28:37 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/2/18 4:34 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 09:39:14 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote:
[snip]
I disagree.
It is not clear what you disagree with, since almost nothing
you say has
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next
DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the
conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as explained
here:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 16:10:20 UTC, Johannes Loher wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:42:20 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:03:45 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote:
That is what Joakim is talking about - changing the main
event to be more like the after-hours stuff
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 07:33:44 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
I have been muttering about this a while. :-)
I know, but this conference was sorta last minute realisation
that it would be very beneficial to attend and I've been rather
busy with it.
Being at another conference clearly
On Wed, 2018-10-03 at 07:03 +, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 06:40:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> > How about DConf continues, as it should, and people submit
> > sessions to
> > ACCU as part of the outreach programme. The call for sessions
> >
On Tue, 2018-10-02 at 15:03 +, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 14:49:31 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> > I believe it would be a mistake to drop DConf.
>
> What about we design a DConf that focuses on interactive
> collaboration instead of sitting passively in
On Wednesday, 3 October 2018 at 06:40:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
How about DConf continues, as it should, and people submit
sessions to
ACCU as part of the outreach programme. The call for sessions
opens at
the end of this week and lasts three weeks.
Ow, that does not give me a lot of
On Tue, 2018-10-02 at 14:49 +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> I think this is something that could be done *in addition to*
> DConf. I honestly don't think DConf is very effective at
> promoting D, except perhaps to a small sliver of the overall
> population of programmers,
On 10/2/18 4:34 AM, Joakim wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 09:39:14 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote:
[snip]
I disagree.
It is not clear what you disagree with, since almost nothing you say has
any bearing on my original post. To summarize, I suggest changing
On 10/02/2018 02:26 AM, Joakim wrote:
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next DConf, so
I'd like to make sure people are aware that the conference format that
DConf uses is dying off, as explained here:
https://marco.org/2018/01/17/end-of-conference-era
People are now
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 16:10:20 UTC, Johannes Loher wrote:
Just to use myself as an example, last Docnf I was able to talk
to Andrei, Walter, Mike, Ali, Jonathan, Kai and lots of others
and exchange ideas with them. This would not have been possible
with a decentralised event (except
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:42:20 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:03:45 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
That is what Joakim is talking about - changing the main event
to be more like the after-hours stuff everyone loves so much,
to actually use all the time to maximize the
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 15:03:45 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
That is what Joakim is talking about - changing the main event
to be more like the after-hours stuff everyone loves so much,
to actually use all the time to maximize the potential of
in-person time.
I'm talking about growing
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 14:49:31 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
"Once the videos are all up, set up weekend meetups in several
cities [all over the world], where a few livestreamed talks
may talk place if some speakers don't want to spend
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 14:49:31 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
I believe it would be a mistake to drop DConf.
What about we design a DConf that focuses on interactive
collaboration instead of sitting passively in a room watching
someone talk over a slideshow?
When Joakim talked about this
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
"Once the videos are all up, set up weekend meetups in several
cities [all over the world], where a few livestreamed talks may
talk place if some speakers don't want to spend more time
producing a pre-recorded talk, but most time is
[snip]
However constructive your alternate proposals are, I suspect
people are misreading your title (and it is easy to assume, just
from the OP title, that you actually want to get 'get rid of'
DConf, rather than just 'modify' and 'improve' DConf.
Personally I feel there is a cognitive
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 10:37:44 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
[...]
As I'm sure has been said before, if it were just the talks it
probably wouldn't be worth it. But conferences are sooo
much more than just the talks.
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 09:39:14 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote:
[snip]
I disagree.
It is not clear what you disagree with, since almost nothing you
say has any bearing on my original post. To summarize, I suggest
changing the currently talk-driven DConf
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
[snip]
Also you're out by a year :)
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next
DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the
conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as explained
here:
On 10/1/18 11:26 PM, Joakim wrote:
[snip]
I disagree. There is much more to the conference than just a 4-day
meetup with talks. The idea that it's just the core 8-15 people with a
bunch of hangers-on is patently false. It's not about the conversations
I have with the "core" people. It's
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 08:21:11 UTC, maarten van damme
wrote:
While I have never attended dconf itself, conferences itself
usually aren't about the talks but about the people you meet
and get to interact with.
Since this thread is about replacing the outdated DConf format
with two
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 07:32:58 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Ex. for D conf there is much more than just D. There is also
the minor escape from reality to new surroundings, like a mini
vacation etc.
Thank you for making clear that the real reason you and some
others like the current format is
While I have never attended dconf itself, conferences itself usually aren't
about the talks but about the people you meet and get to interact with.
Op di 2 okt. 2018 om 10:15 schreef Joakim via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>:
> On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 08:08:38 UTC, Gary
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 08:08:38 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 07:32:58 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Thank you for making clear that the real reason you and some
others like the current format is because you want to have a
fun "vacation"- as I pointed out in that
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 07:32:58 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Thank you for making clear that the real reason you and some
others like the current format is because you want to have a
fun "vacation"- as I pointed out in that earlier thread- rather
than anything to do with D or advancing the
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 07:14:54 UTC, bauss wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
[...]
I highly disagree with this.
I love conferences and meetups.
It's good socially and a conference is not 100% just about the
topic it hosts.
I think you didn't read
On Tuesday, 2 October 2018 at 06:26:30 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next
DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the
conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as explained
here:
I'm sure some thought and planning is now going into the next
DConf, so I'd like to make sure people are aware that the
conference format that DConf uses is dying off, as explained here:
https://marco.org/2018/01/17/end-of-conference-era
There was a discussion about this in a previous forum
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