bearophile wrote:
(Time ago I have
suggested a "type" type, to replace some functional-style template
usage with simpler imperative-style compile time functions, but it
was not appreciated. Maybe also because it introduces yet another way
to do the same thing, despite it looks like a simpler way)
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:06:15 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Moritz Warning wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:50:18 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>
>>> #ponce wrote:
> Walter Bright Wrote:
>
> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
Added mandatory C++ attacks and D fa
Moritz Warning wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:50:18 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
#ponce wrote:
Walter Bright Wrote:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
Added mandatory C++ attacks and D fanboyism
I read the exchange just now (nice job ponce) and am a bit surprised how
much others
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:50:18 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> #ponce wrote:
>>> Walter Bright Wrote:
>>>
>>> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
>>
>> Added mandatory C++ attacks and D fanboyism
>
> I read the exchange just now (nice job ponce) and am a bit surprised how
> much others
Andrei Alexandrescu:
> I read the exchange just now (nice job ponce) and am a bit surprised how
> much others know about what I do, e.g how I don't use D. My entire
> doctoral research is implemented in D (to say nothing about phobos). I
> haven't used another language extensively for about thr
#ponce wrote:
Walter Bright Wrote:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
Added mandatory C++ attacks and D fanboyism
I read the exchange just now (nice job ponce) and am a bit surprised how
much others know about what I do, e.g how I don't use D. My entire
doctoral research is impleme
> Walter Bright Wrote:
>
> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
Added mandatory C++ attacks and D fanboyism
Walter Bright Wrote:
> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
It's an interesting discussion. From it it seems several persons would like a D
V.1.5, something intermediate between D1 and D2.
Bye,
bearophile
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=911858
Walter Bright:
>http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/92ajk/andy_glew_reviews_the_case_for_the_d_programming/
>Everything is initialized (unless the programmer says not to, by saying "int x
>= void").<
In LDC global static arrays are initialized to 0 if their content is set to
=void.
I
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/92ajk/andy_glew_reviews_the_case_for_the_d_programming/
Japanese translation is up at:
http://dusers.dip.jp/modules/wiki/?Learning%2FThe%20Case%20for%20D
We appreciate Andrei's permission to publish the translation.
Hello JMNorris,
And the medical journal article?
It needs to show that contributing to this open source app in D cures
erectile disfunction.
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote in news:h18i1p
$16l...@digitalmars.com:
> So these
> votes seem to reflect a prior dislike to anything D and the immediate
> negative voting of anything related to it. I wonder how such this could
> be addressed.
Two killer apps written in D plus one article in a med
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:46:16 +0200, grauzone wrote:
> Why is Andrei building his book upon an unfinished
> language, anyway...
Because the book and language are planned to be released... around the
same time.
e immediate negative voting of
> >> anything related to it. I wonder how such this could be addressed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrei
> > To Andrei,
> >
> > Last time I translated your post *RFC on range design for D2*
> >
> > http://www
eye.com/group/topic/10615
I am so sorry for making such a big mistake.Just let me know if there
is anything I can do for this mistake.Thanks.
I hereby punish you to translate The Case For D as well :o).
No matter, really. That was just a temporary document that I deleted in
the meantime.
Bt
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
> Robert Fraser wrote:
> > Tim Matthews wrote:
> >> Anders F Björklund wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Last but definitely not least, two windowing libraries complete the
> >>> language's offering quite spectacularly. The mature library DWT is a
> >>> direct port of Java's SW
Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
> MIURA Masahiro wrote:
> > Walter Bright wrote:
> >> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
> >
> > A few D fans in Japan are considering translating this article.
> > Is it OK to translate and publish it?
> > Whom should we ask permission o
bearophile wrote:
grauzone:
Just that LDC (why not mention it directly?) is starting to become more
stable than DMD, while the .NET port is in an early alpha stage at best.
I agree with you, mentioning LDC name there is better. This part of the article
is bad.
And LDC is getting quite stable,
Hello Andrei,
I think BCS' idea is brilliant
yet again, I get accused of being smarter than I think I am.
Walter Bright wrote:
BCS wrote:
Hello Walter,
There is one for Ubuntu, but I'm having a bit of trouble making it
work right.
IMHO: "That's Not Your Job!!"
Check it into dsource and ask for people to adopt it.
I didn't think of that. Great idea!
Again: http://www.dsource.org/projects/pho
BCS wrote:
Hello Walter,
There is one for Ubuntu, but I'm having a bit of trouble making it
work right.
IMHO: "That's Not Your Job!!"
Check it into dsource and ask for people to adopt it.
I didn't think of that. Great idea!
Hello Walter,
BCS wrote:
Someone in there started a gripe about installers (they doesn't want
to have to edit their path). Would you have any objections to (in
addition to the current .zip distro) having officially sanctioned
.rpm/.deb/.msi distros? Once the infrastructure is in place to build
Brad Roberts wrote:
p.s. I'm thinking of a setup where someone other than Walter maintains them.
From a long term maintainability standpoint, if someone wants to produce
an installer that's likely to have longevity, it should operate on the
underlying .zip file. Take the zip and open it, ma
BCS wrote:
Reply to Benjamin,
Reply to Walter,
Someone in there started a gripe about installers (they doesn't want
to have to edit their path). Would you have any objections to (in
addition to the current .zip distro) having officially sanctioned
.rpm/.deb/.msi distros? Once the infrastructur
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, BCS wrote:
> Reply to Benjamin,
>
> > Reply to Walter,
> >
> > Someone in there started a gripe about installers (they doesn't want
> > to have to edit their path). Would you have any objections to (in
> > addition to the current .zip distro) having officially sanctioned
> >
BCS wrote:
Someone in there started a gripe about installers (they doesn't want to
have to edit their path). Would you have any objections to (in addition
to the current .zip distro) having officially sanctioned .rpm/.deb/.msi
distros? Once the infrastructure is in place to build any of them, t
Reply to Walter,
Someone in there started a gripe about installers (they doesn't want to have
to edit their path). Would you have any objections to (in addition to the
current .zip distro) having officially sanctioned .rpm/.deb/.msi distros?
Once the infrastructure is in place to build any of
Reply to Benjamin,
Reply to Walter,
Someone in there started a gripe about installers (they doesn't want
to have to edit their path). Would you have any objections to (in
addition to the current .zip distro) having officially sanctioned
.rpm/.deb/.msi distros? Once the infrastructure is in plac
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
...
> Speaking of reddit, I noticed there are forty-something negative votes
> but only one negative comment. From direct experience (sigh) I know that
> people who think an article sucks usually are also very inclined to
> voice their opinion (even more so than people wh
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:42:31 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Robert Fraser wrote:
>> Tim Matthews wrote:
>>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>>>
>>>
"Last but definitely not least, two windowing libraries complete the
language's offering quite spectacularly. The mature library DWT is a
>>>
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
So these
votes seem to reflect a prior dislike to anything D and the immediate
negative voting of anything related to it.
Eh, my relatives are at it again!
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Konnichiwa! I hereby grant you permission to translate the article.
> Please let me know when you're done, I'll link to the translation.
Thank you, I will contact you when finished.
Turkish translation already done!? What a quick job.
Robert Fraser wrote:
Tim Matthews wrote:
Anders F Björklund wrote:
"Last but definitely not least, two windowing libraries complete the
language's offering quite spectacularly. The mature library DWT is a
direct port of Java's SWT. A newer development is that the immensely
popular Qt Softw
Robert Jacques wrote:
Not to mention DFL. Also, DWT requires Tango and doesn't support phobos,
so it doesn't "complete the language's offering quite spectacularly".
I think DFL has also been around for some time, so not news either ?
As I recall DFL wasn't very portable, so I mostly looked at
Tim Matthews wrote:
Anders F Björklund wrote:
"Last but definitely not least, two windowing libraries complete the
language's offering quite spectacularly. The mature library DWT is a
direct port of Java's SWT. A newer development is that the immensely
popular Qt Software windowing library
MIURA Masahiro wrote:
> Walter Bright wrote:
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
>
> A few D fans in Japan are considering translating this article.
> Is it OK to translate and publish it?
> Whom should we ask permission of?
Konnichiwa! I hereby grant you permiss
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:00:46 -0400, Anders F Björklund
wrote:
Walter Bright wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
http://www.ddj.com/hpc-high-performance-computing/217801225 says:
"There are two major versions of the language -- D1 and D2.
This article
Walter Bright, el 16 de junio a las 01:12 me escribiste:
> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
Nice article. A few comments:
* If the article talks just about D2, I think it should be consistent. If
it says that LDC is not finished because it doesn't support, I th
Tim Matthews wrote:
"Last but definitely not least, two windowing libraries complete the
language's offering quite spectacularly. The mature library DWT is a
direct port of Java's SWT. A newer development is that the immensely
popular Qt Software windowing library has recently released a D
bin
Anders F Björklund wrote:
"Last but definitely not least, two windowing libraries complete the
language's offering quite spectacularly. The mature library DWT is a
direct port of Java's SWT. A newer development is that the immensely
popular Qt Software windowing library has recently released
Walter Bright escribió:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
Great article!
I like how you mention a lot of D features and also a lot of tools built
for it.
Just a few questions:
1. Will "alias ... this" be used to do "opCast"? It seems like it's
working like
bearophile wrote:
grauzone:
Just that LDC (why not mention it directly?) is starting to become more
stable than DMD, while the .NET port is in an early alpha stage at best.
I think the author has not cited LDC as "nearly finished" because it's mostly a
D1 compiler still (and can't be used on
Walter Bright wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
Great article! Hopefully, this will bring a rush of new users to D. :)
-Lars
grauzone wrote:
> Other implementations are underway, notably including an a .NET port
and one using the LLVM infrastructure as backend.
Just that LDC (why not mention it directly?) is starting to become more
stable than DMD, while the .NET port is in an early alpha stage at best.
A quote f
grauzone:
> Just that LDC (why not mention it directly?) is starting to become more
> stable than DMD, while the .NET port is in an early alpha stage at best.
I think the author has not cited LDC as "nearly finished" because it's mostly a
D1 compiler still (and can't be used on Windows).
Bye,
b
Walter Bright wrote:
> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
A few D fans in Japan are considering translating this article.
Is it OK to translate and publish it?
Whom should we ask permission of?
grauzone:
> Just that LDC (why not mention it directly?) is starting to become more
> stable than DMD, while the .NET port is in an early alpha stage at best.
I agree with you, mentioning LDC name there is better. This part of the article
is bad.
And LDC is getting quite stable, I'm using it on
Walter Bright wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
Nice article. Here some random bitching.
> If you are patient, you'll find out that D has constructors and
destructors with which you can implement deterministic lifetime of objects.
Not entirely true. A
Walter Bright wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
Also on ycombinator: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=659592
Walter Bright wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
http://www.ddj.com/hpc-high-performance-computing/217801225 says:
"There are two major versions of the language -- D1 and D2.
This article focuses on D2 exclusively."
"The official D compiler is available
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8stcr/the_case_for_d/
Yes, in probably a couple of months.
Andrei
Saaa wrote:
Will we be able to read the article online after polishing?
I am writing an article for a programming magazine entitled "The Case for
D".
Would anyone be interested in reviewing it before publication? Please send
me privat
Will we be able to read the article online after polishing?
>I am writing an article for a programming magazine entitled "The Case for
>D".
>
> Would anyone be interested in reviewing it before publication? Please send
> me private email if so. I will need to limit the
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I am writing an article for a programming magazine entitled "The Case
for D".
Would anyone be interested in reviewing it before publication? Please
send me private email if so. I will need to limit the number of
reviewers to a fraction of the responder
I am writing an article for a programming magazine entitled "The Case
for D".
Would anyone be interested in reviewing it before publication? Please
send me private email if so. I will need to limit the number of
reviewers to a fraction of the responders, and one hard requirement is
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