On 7/30/2013 11:02 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
26-Jul-2013 23:17, Walter Bright пишет:
How about a pull request so we can try it out?
Preliminary pull is here:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/2436
So far it looses a bit.
:-) That's often been my experience.
I'm still
On 7/30/2013 11:16 AM, Brad Anderson wrote:
Sidenote: Insulting Walter's work isn't a great way to get him to do your a
favor.
I'm sad that I never got the opportunity to be insulted by Jobs.
On 7/30/2013 1:14 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
Since I've never been before, I would like to know if there is a place that I
can setup a laptop in the lecture hall. I *really* want to go to this, but I
have product launch two weeks prior at VSLive (also at MSFT) and it may need
emergency support.
On 7/29/2013 5:28 AM, John Colvin wrote:
Seriously... Walter wouldn't have got his mechanical engineering degree if he
didn't know how to calculate a speed properly.
It's a grade school concept :-)
A college freshman physics problem would be calculating the delta V of a rocket
fired in space
On 7/29/2013 4:45 AM, Leandro Motta Barros wrote:
Well, I kinda have the same feeling when using it. For my ~10kloc
project, I still haven't felt a real need to use a real build system.
I just dmd *.d. If any measurable time passes without any error
message appearing in the console, I know that
On 7/29/2013 12:08 PM, JS wrote:
Trying to use distance and speed as a measure of performance of a program is
just ridiculous.
If you google program execution speed you'll find it's a commonly used term.
Lines per second is a common measure of compiler execution speed - google
compiler lines
On 7/29/2013 7:25 PM, Manu wrote:
On 30 July 2013 08:12, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com
mailto:newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
http://channel9.msdn.com/__Events/GoingNative/2013
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/GoingNative/2013
The last one was a lot of fun, so I signed
http://www.gamedev.net/page/resources/_/technical/general-programming/getting-started-with-the-d-programming-language-r3306
By Mike Aldacron Parker
On 7/26/2013 1:25 AM, dennis luehring wrote:
do you compare dmc based and visualc based dmd builds?
the vc dmd build seems to be always two times faster - how does that look with
your optimization?
It would be most interesting to see just what it was that made the vc build
faster.
But that
On 7/26/2013 5:11 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
26-Jul-2013 14:47, Dmitry Olshansky пишет:
26-Jul-2013 01:25, Walter Bright пишет:
The slowness was in the frackin' convert the hash to an index in the
bucket, which is a modulus operation.
Then it's past due to finally stop the madness
On 7/25/2013 11:21 AM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1j1i30/increasing_the_d_compiler_speed_by_over_75/
Where is the 75% value coming from?
Not sure what you mean. Numbers at the end of the article.
Regarding the hashing, maybe a
On 7/25/2013 11:30 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
The biggest compile time killer in my experience is actually running out of
memory and hitting the swap.
My work app used to compile in about 8 seconds (on Linux btw). Then we added
more and more stuff and it went up to about 20 seconds. It uses a
On 7/25/2013 12:26 PM, qznc wrote:
if you know the lifetime of the objects.
Aye, there's the rub!
And woe to you if you get that wrong.
On 7/25/2013 11:49 AM, Dmitry S wrote:
I am also confused by the numbers. What I see at the end of the article is
21.56 seconds, and the latest development version does it in 12.19, which is
really a 43% improvement. (Which is really great too.)
21.56/12.19 is 1.77, i.e. a 75% improvement in
On 7/25/2013 3:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
Like string interning?
Exactly.
On 7/25/2013 4:15 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Walter Bright, el 25 de July a las 14:27 me escribiste:
On 7/25/2013 11:49 AM, Dmitry S wrote:
I am also confused by the numbers. What I see at the end of the article is
21.56 seconds, and the latest development version does it in 12.19, which
On 7/22/2013 3:39 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
The title says it all really.
Need linky!
On 7/22/2013 11:07 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Please join me in congratulating monarch dodra for his admission among our
github committers. We're starting with phobos, druntime, and tools access, and
if all goes well, we'll extend write rights to dmd also.
Congrats!
On 7/21/2013 8:43 AM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
Please don't let this degenerate into a grammar nazi poasting session, please
focus on the article content instead.
Well, if you do want to be a rebel on capitalization, you have to accept that
your audience may get distracted from your message and
On 7/20/2013 2:19 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
I'm starting to blog a little more and in particular i've started writing more
about D. I'm using it a great deal at work now and all new stuff is to be
written in it. I'm loving every minute of this and really want to sing its
praises.
I'll not lie
On 7/21/2013 2:17 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
Thanks, updated.
Welcs. With my own writing, I'll often write it all out, then grep for you and
fix them all :-)
On 7/21/2013 2:21 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Or worse, just think that you have a lower intelligence level than you
actually have.
I read code, articles, books, etc., all day. There's a million times more
content than I could hope to read. So I (and everyone else) needs some sort of
On 7/21/2013 3:24 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
This is why I prefer to use 'thou' when writing documentation. :-P
I use thou when I'm issuing commandments to my subjects.
On 7/20/2013 2:19 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
Be gentle: http://nomad.so/2013/07/templates-in-d-explained/
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1irdjn/how_to_use_templates_in_d/
On 7/15/2013 2:32 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
Following the discussion on digitalmars.D, I've put together a little (... er,
long ...) blog post discussing the basics of my D graph library:
http://braingam.es/2013/07/complex-networks-in-d/
The main slant of this post is the ease of
On 7/16/2013 2:27 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 July 2013 at 08:27:07 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 July 2013 at 07:17:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6050404
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1iegj9
I think it's a nice blog and encourage you to do more!
On 7/12/2013 12:34 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
1) D implict conversion idiom: http://3d.benjamin-thaut.de/?p=90
Well you have a typo in the first title...
The same misspelling occurs repeatedly in the article, so it's not a typo.
On 7/12/2013 12:22 PM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
Am 12.07.2013 21:00, schrieb Walter Bright:
On 7/12/2013 2:42 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
D strives to prevent implicit conversion between user defined types at
all costs.
Ok - but I think it would be clearer if the statement added for user
defined
On 7/7/2013 5:09 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 7/7/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
While doing some unrelated research I stumbled upon my very first email
to Walter, dated April 26, 2004.
That's a cool teaser, but how did the discussion continue? :)
Generally
On 7/5/2013 5:27 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 5 July 2013 at 23:35:54 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I think you really should put the code in shape and convert your initial post
into a blog entry.
You know, I have a lot of things I want to blab about, but the problem is I
don't have
On 7/1/2013 2:04 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
On 7/1/13 11:42 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 7/1/2013 10:45 AM, Joakim wrote:
Then they should choose a mixed license like the Mozilla Public License or CDDL,
which keeps OSS files open while allowing linking with closed source files
within the same
On 6/29/2013 11:39 PM, Joakim wrote:
What do you think of my idea of segmenting the market though? Keep providing a
free-as-in-beer dmd, like you are now, for the people who want it, while Remedy
and others who want performance pay for a dmd that puts out more performant
code, with those
On 6/30/2013 2:50 AM, Joakim wrote:
I wondered if you have any opinion on such code reuse, if someone takes your
code and closes it, even if you wouldn't try to block it because you have
already released it under a permissive license.
No, I don't have an opinion on it, other than that I'd
On 6/28/2013 7:35 PM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
Thinking that it is free enough, I had chosen this:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/
Just let me know if it is limiting in any way.
This is just awesome! Thank you, Ali!
On 6/28/2013 9:10 AM, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 28 June 2013 at 16:00:57 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
Deimos is an overhead which provides no benefits. It was supposed to
be used to make discovery easy, but discovery can be done through a
wiki, or dlang.org, or an automated process (dub).
I agree with your post, I just want to make a couple of minor corrections.
On 6/27/2013 4:58 AM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Do you really think C++ took off because there are commercial
implementations?
I got into the C++ fray in the 1987-88 time frame. At the time, there was a
great debate
On 6/29/2013 5:08 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On Saturday, 29 June 2013 at 08:37:48 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
The bottom line was the open source movement was not a very significant force
in the 1980's when C++ gained traction. Open source really exploded around
2000, along
On 6/29/2013 7:56 PM, CJS wrote:
Wow. That's interesting reading. Thanks for the history lesson!
There are other versions of this history, none of which mention the role ZTC++
played in C++ attaining critical mass, so I like to repeat my version now and
then :-)
On 6/21/2013 1:26 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Watch http://nwcpp.org for more info later this week.
The info on Scott's presentation is now posted.
On 6/24/2013 1:18 PM, Michel Fortin wrote:
And I don't think it is very common in D either. Either way, if D was to
implement ARC for its own memory allocator instead of the current GC (which
would be great) there's noting to prevent implementing it so that reference
counts could be incremented
On 6/25/2013 1:09 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-06-25 06:34, QAston wrote:
---Get a real webdesigner involved
I would say, as long as the web site is written in ddoc, no real web designer
will be interested.
The dconf.org website was done by a real web designer who was paid real money,
On 6/25/2013 1:08 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-06-25 20:06, Walter Bright wrote:
3. migrating non-ARC code to ARC is error-prone and a major nuisance
Xcode provides refactoring tools to migrate manual reference counting and GC
code to ARC.
Those don't work with D.
Let's do it right
On 6/25/2013 1:19 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 6/25/13 1:16 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/25/2013 1:09 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-06-25 06:34, QAston wrote:
---Get a real webdesigner involved
I would say, as long as the web site is written in ddoc, no real web
designer
On 6/24/2013 3:04 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-06-23 23:12, Walter Bright wrote:
Thank you for reviving this. Please carry on!
Is there a chance we can get this into main line?
Yes, but since I don't know much about O-C programming, the feature should be
labeled experimental until
On 6/24/2013 6:27 AM, Michel Fortin wrote:
Finally, there is a couple of features that were added to Objective-C since then
that should be added to the todo list to keep feature parity. Some of those, if
implemented right, could benefit the rest of D too. For instance: ARC (automatic
reference
On 6/24/2013 11:03 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
All data members in Objective-C are private. So the object can control when it
gives out this data, and take appropriate actions. AFAIK, ARC does not worry
about internal pointers.
Hmm, that's a good thought. (But recall that modules allow
On 6/24/2013 1:18 PM, Michel Fortin wrote:
That's not a so big problem: just disallow taking pointers to member variables
inside of reference-counted memory blocks. At least in SafeD. This is a quite
rare thing to do in Objective-C anyway, I'd be surprised if it bothered anyone.
And I don't
On 6/24/2013 1:37 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-06-24 19:36, Walter Bright wrote:
Yes, but since I don't know much about O-C programming, the feature
should be labeled experimental until we're sure it's the right design.
Absolutely. But there's not that much to design. It's the same
On 6/24/2013 1:45 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:36:50 -0400, Suliman everm...@live.ru wrote:
Could anybody explain the practical side of this project? Where it can be
helpful?
First, you should quote the bit of the post that you are responding to. Since
you
On 6/19/2013 11:02 PM, Kai Nacke wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 20:40:39 UTC, qznc wrote:
LDC is explicitly mentioned in the LLVM 3.3 Release Notes [0]. In contrast
to other frontends, LDC seems to follow upstream much more closely (or
maybe is forced to due to bugs?).
Anyhow, kudos to
On 6/21/2013 8:41 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
My first MS-DOS version was 3.3 :)
1.1 here!
The abstract isn't available yet, but who cares. I presume it will be about C++.
Scott's shows are not to be missed.
It'll be July 17th at 7:00 PM at Microsoft in building 40/Steptoe. I'm told
pizza will be provided.
Lloyd Moore, the organizer, wants a hint of how many will come, so +1 on
and fixes several reported regressions.
download.dlang.org
On 6/18/2013 9:33 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 6/18/13 4:41 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
and fixes several reported regressions.
download.dlang.org
That's http://downloads.dlang.org.
I'd piped a protest that we should use the singular in the subdomain (as we use
in all other URLs
On 6/18/2013 6:52 AM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 June 2013 at 08:41:43 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
and fixes several reported regressions.
download.dlang.org
Thanks, but Mac OS has a broken download link.
It's here:
http://dlang.org/dmd.2.063.2.dmg
On 6/17/2013 8:35 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I'm sure if there are any glitches that omit an important piece of the talk,
point them out and the speaker and/or conference attendees can help discern what
was being said.
I was saying flip that!.
On 6/13/2013 7:14 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
The utility though is mathematically equivalent to the house cutting you a check
each year for the difference of property taxes, insurance, and repairs and rent
though. Which is virtually guaranteed to be a positive number because the
landlord has to
On 6/13/2013 11:40 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-06-13 22:42, Walter Bright wrote:
May I present MicroEmacs:
https://github.com/DigitalMars/med
Only Linux and Windows support?
Others are trivially added if anyone cares.
On 6/14/2013 5:36 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
It's a delay on my end. I am currently traveling to NDC 2013 (where I gave a
talk on D, see http://ndcoslo.oktaset.com/Agenda/friday) and I need a stable
connection to upload the file. Stay tuned.
Looks like a great talk you've got planned!
On 6/13/2013 2:19 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:
On Thursday, 13 June 2013 at 09:06:00 UTC, Don wrote:
Mono-D and Eclipse DDT both have major problems with long pauses while typing
(eg 15 seconds unresponsive) and crashes. Both of them even have modules of
death where just viewing the file will
On 6/13/2013 6:58 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Home ownership is much simpler than playing with stocks,
I have to strongly disagree about that. Buying/selling a stock is a mouse click.
Tax accounting is a one liner. Buying/selling a house is a major amount of work.
Heck, even once you
On 6/13/2013 11:00 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:
From a cold boot, the terminal I use, iTerm, can take upwards of 10 seconds to
start up before I can start entering commands.
The perennial problem with JITs.
On 6/13/2013 2:22 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:
The syntax highlighting has actually bogged down vim for me in the past. I had a
file with a large array in it (hundreds of lines), and scrolling over those
lines caused vim to stutter at about 1fps.
Back in the Bad Old DOS days, I had trouble with
On 6/13/2013 3:48 AM, Regan Heath wrote:
What are the basic features you would require of a development environment,
People tell me that intellisense is the #1 feature.
On 6/13/2013 11:25 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I meant much simpler to predict/easier to come out ahead. Sheesh, so much
literalism here :)
I'm going to disagree with that one, too!
Consider an SP 500 index stock, like SPY. It's:
1. trivial to buy and sell - a couple clicks
2. liquid -
On 6/13/2013 1:12 PM, Don wrote:
Must not be worse than Notepad. g
May I present MicroEmacs:
https://github.com/DigitalMars/med
On 6/13/2013 12:56 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:10:06 -0400, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com
wrote:
On 6/13/2013 11:25 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I meant much simpler to predict/easier to come out ahead. Sheesh, so much
literalism here :)
I'm going
On 6/13/2013 1:53 PM, Bill Baxter wrote:
Why do those things pay dividends?
SP 500 companies pay dividends, and since you own a piece of them via SPY, you
get paid those dividends.
On 6/13/2013 1:56 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I will when you can show me a stock you can live in :P
Again, we were talking about the financial pros and cons of buying a house vs
renting. The utility issue is therefore moot.
On 6/12/2013 1:04 AM, Don wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 20:02:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Note that none of the advertisements,
brochures, etc., mention expected life of the PVs.
That's not correct. Almost all manufacturers provide a 20 or 30 year warranty.
Warranty periods have been
On 6/12/2013 5:58 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 6/11/13 11:40 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
I just want to point out that owning a home
is far from the sure path to wealth it is too often presented as. As
always, caveat emptor.
I'd say it's historically about as risky as owning stocks
On 6/12/2013 1:29 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
Looking at dmd's source, looks like Walter actually wrote code to parse a throws
Exception, etc. to be part of the function signature but stripped it out (surely
because that's annoying).
That detritus should be removed.
It was a bad idea, which is
On 6/12/2013 2:49 PM, bearophile wrote:
What are the disadvantages of checked exceptions?
See the link to Bruce Eckel's article I posted in this thread.
On 6/11/2013 8:28 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for
it.
Yeah, but you'll have to replace it before 20 years!
On 6/11/2013 12:21 PM, John Colvin wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 18:47:35 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/11/2013 8:28 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for
it.
Yeah, but you'll have to replace it before 20 years
On 6/11/2013 1:11 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 6/11/13, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Circuit boards, inverters, etc., also fail, and you'd need some assurance
you
can get replacement parts for 20 years.
I bet most companies don't even get to live 20 years. And usually
On 6/11/2013 1:18 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 19:38:13 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I have to laugh at this. Solar is *almost* free money *if* you can wait 20
years
A 20 year payback time is no big deal to me, the house won't pay for itself
compared to renting
On 6/11/2013 1:47 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 20:47:04 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Actually, parts for old cars are a lot cheaper than for new ones! But I think
that's an anomaly.
I guess it totally depends on where you live. :)
In the US.
For example, my daily
On 6/11/2013 2:19 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Define financially better off :)
You have mo' moolah. Is their any other definition?
And this is not even a fair conversation, because there are so many variables to
consider.
I'd like to pop that default conception that buying is
On 6/11/2013 2:20 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 20:51:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Owning a home has lots of nice advantages, but saving money isn't reliably one
of them.
I agreed with you until last year, but the very low mortgage interest rates and
fitting
On 6/11/2013 2:55 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
...and if you sell it, unless you own multiple houses, you're now homeless. And
housing prices are up, so getting a new house will erase the gains you got from
selling the old house!
Yeah, I love that one.
But I do feel the house is worth it
On 6/11/2013 6:54 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:29:45 -0400, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com
wrote:
On 6/11/2013 2:19 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Define financially better off :)
You have mo' moolah. Is their any other definition?
Cash is not always
On 6/11/2013 6:54 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
My profit on my first condo, which I bought in '99 and sold in '05 was 150% of
the *purchase price*. Minus the 6% commission :) Although, it was only 3%
because a family friend who is a real estate agent did not charge me her half.
And I only
On 6/10/2013 4:19 PM, Anthony Goins wrote:
Will there be video for Andrew Edwards?
Andrew declined to have it videotaped, so no.
On 6/8/2013 2:23 PM, bearophile wrote:
- D integer types have guaranteed sizes, but
they're not obvious from the name
- Why not have int8, uint8, int32, uint32, etc. in
default namespace, encourage their use?
I agree. It's hard to guess the size and signedness of types as byte, ubyte,
On 6/8/2013 4:08 PM, bearophile wrote:
It took me two or three years to to remember what's the length of dchar and
wchar.
I don't believe that!
New D programmer should not be need to learn such arbitrary naming scheme,
inherited from C++ :-)
It's also seen in other obscure languages like
On 5/26/2013 9:31 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Saturday, 25 May 2013 at 21:07:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Pull request to do this: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/2076
So finally, what is the sate of things ?
Beta 7!
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip
Remaining
On 5/26/2013 8:05 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Sunday, 26 May 2013 at 18:52:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 5/26/2013 9:31 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Saturday, 25 May 2013 at 21:07:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Pull request to do this:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/2076
So
On 5/24/2013 10:32 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
TÜBİTAK (The Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey) holds a
yearly competition for high school research projects.
Zekeriya is the winner of the first place award for computer technologies. He
has been designing and implementing Rhodeus
On 5/24/2013 11:22 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/speaking-a-whole-new-language-dconf-2013-at-facebook/10151468799633920
Wow! Best summary yet of the conference!
On 5/24/2013 11:45 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 05/24/2013 11:34 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 5/24/2013 10:32 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
TÜBİTAK (The Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey)
holds a
yearly competition for high school research projects.
Zekeriya is the winner
On 5/22/2013 11:55 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-05-21 22:36, Walter Bright wrote:
Join the dmd beta mailing list to keep up with the betas. This one is
pretty much good to go, unless something disastrous crops up.
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip
All directories have executable
On 5/23/2013 4:07 AM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On 21 May 2013 21:36, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Join the dmd beta mailing list to keep up with the betas. This one is pretty
much good to go, unless something disastrous crops up.
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd2beta.zip
Remaining
On 5/23/2013 2:05 AM, Don wrote:
NO NO NO NO. I am violently opposed to this release.
This beta contains the worst language misfeature of all time. It's silently
snuck in under the guise of a bugfix.
Don has an excellent point. His case is bolstered by this causing Tango2 to fail
to compile
On 5/23/2013 5:35 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
What about making it an error UNLESS you pass a compiler flag. The user will be
informed, and the new behavior (which I find useful) is possible.
While that idea has significant merit, I oppose it on the following grounds:
1. It forces a very
On 5/23/2013 5:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 5/23/2013 5:35 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
What about making it an error UNLESS you pass a compiler flag. The user will be
informed, and the new behavior (which I find useful) is possible.
While that idea has significant merit, I oppose
On 5/23/2013 6:01 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 5/23/13 8:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 5/23/2013 5:35 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
What about making it an error UNLESS you pass a compiler flag. The
user will be
informed, and the new behavior (which I find useful) is possible.
While
On 5/23/2013 7:35 PM, bearophile wrote:
Walter Bright:
3. Naive users may see their compile fail, see a switch to 'enable' it, and
throw the switch. Now it compiles, but fails silently at runtime. This is
because the new behavior is quite different from the old, and the code that
relies
On 5/23/2013 7:57 PM, bearophile wrote:
Walter Bright:
Even if such naive D programmers exist, maybe it's better to ignore this third
point, because they will not be able to program in D for other reasons.
s/naive/tired/
s/naive/inahurry/
I'm surprised at you, bearophile!
A safe and well
On 5/23/2013 7:38 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:56:47 -0400, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com
wrote:
On 5/23/2013 5:56 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 5/23/2013 5:35 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
What about making it an error UNLESS you pass a compiler flag
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