On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:42:53 -0500
Nick Sabalausky seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote:
Like browsers, for instance. When Microsoft had their browser merely
uninstallable...
Erm... s/uninstallable/non-uninstallable/ (unless I'm remembering
wrong)
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 12:57 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
[…]
That is a fair point. OTOH, Google (by their very nature) is dead-set on
things like making sure the web gets treated as an application platform
and getting people to store their personal data on Google's private
cloud (a moronic
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:32:28 +
Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 12:57 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
[…]
Also I think another part of what makes Google (and Apple) so
dangerous is that unlike MS, most people are still hailing them as
wonderful and
On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 11:42 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
[…]
Yea, I've noticed the same thing :( People are so enamored with their
iDevices, that they think Apple can do no wrong. At least that's the
only explanation I can think of.
Perhaps Apple employees visit everyone who buys an Apple
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:25:48 +
Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-06 at 11:42 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
[…]
Yea, I've noticed the same thing :( People are so enamored with
their iDevices, that they think Apple can do no wrong. At least
that's the only
On 1/6/2013 8:42 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Like browsers, for instance. When Microsoft had their browser merely
uninstallable and set as the *initial* default browser, the DOJ went
apeshit, nevermind the fact that MS did *nothing* to prevent people
from downloading and using competing browsers.
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 02:20 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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Sounds like you must be very good at Linux. I would never have been
able to do it without this guide:
http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze
I found that to be more contrived, obscure, and
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:18:07 +
Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 02:20 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Yea. Google's Don't be evil is a complete load of
self-rationalizing bullshit. I mean, christ, their whole business
is based on mining/selling personal
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:09:24 +
Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 14:17 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
[…]
Whoa. Four instances I run my own SMTP and IMAP server in about
as many paragraphs. You must feel quite strongly about that...
:-)
Originally
On 1/3/2013 1:22 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
I don't see that local or server-based storage makes any difference to
the ability to manage email. But maybe I am missing something about your
particular workflow.
1. I control the backups
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:26:51 Walter Bright wrote:
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what
their privacy policy says - if they have it, they will use it as they
please. You have no way to even discover what they do with it
Unless you're managing your
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what
their
privacy policy says - if they have it, they
On 01/03/2013 01:26 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 1:22 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
I don't see that local or server-based storage makes any difference to
the ability to manage email. But maybe I am missing something about your
particular workflow.
1. I control the backups
The hosting
On 1/3/2013 10:53 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
I agree that is the best solution.
On 1/3/2013 10:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Unless you're managing your own e-mail server (which you may be doing - I have
no idea), then even if you store your e-mail locally and delete it from the
server, you're still not saved from this.
I know - but it's less likely, and most ISPs delete
On 1/3/13 1:53 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what their
privacy
On 2013-01-03 19:53, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 14:17 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
[…]
Whoa. Four instances I run my own SMTP and IMAP server in about as
many paragraphs. You must feel quite strongly about that...
:-)
Originally I was doing it to make sure I could sys admin
Apache/Postfix/Dovecot (previously
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 21:08 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
[…]
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
Define ISP ;-)
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Russel.
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04-Jan-2013 00:12, Russel Winder пишет:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 21:08 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
[…]
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
Define ISP ;-)
Then go for autonomous system aka AS g
--
Dmitry Olshansky
On 1/3/2013 11:17 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I don't yet run my own SMTP and IMAP server Alexandrescu
Sheesh. How can you ever hold your head up again after that admission?
On 1/3/13 10:07 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:17 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I don't yet run my own SMTP and IMAP server Alexandrescu
Sheesh. How can you ever hold your head up again after that admission?
I actually used to, heh. Communigate Pro they called it, beautiful
On 1/3/2013 8:25 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I know better than run my own SMTP/IMAP servers Alexandrescu
All we need now is a Penny.
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