Re: two points

2017-02-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 02/09/2017 03:02 AM, Walter Bright wrote: It took me a while to find it, because you were using a pseudonym that I did not recognize. There are a number of frequent contributors to D using pseudonyms, and all have this issue with varying degrees. [...] I suppose I could write a cheat sheet

Re: two points

2017-02-11 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 20:12:06 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: Out of curiosity: is it typical that it would not post until some way into the discussion (as in that example)? I could see why it would be irritating if it popped up once discussion and review had already started

Re: two points

2017-02-10 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 23:44:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I appreciate how frustrating it must be to have people saying, 'Hey, do this! Do that!' without necessarily volunteering their own efforts in support, but organizational improvements so very often fail unless they are eagerly

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Mike via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 17:45:15 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: No. There should be appropriate checks and reviews, yes. But, no, every little fix and improvement shouldn't feel like trying to get somewhere in a year-long tabs vs spaces debate or making a big-budget sales pitch to

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/9/2017 1:45 PM, Jon Degenhardt wrote: However, when a PR associated with the issue is created, the ticket itself is normally not updated until after the review is finished and the PR closed, to late to help out. It normally is. I do it for all mine and for others I notice that have not

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/9/2017 1:06 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 20:43:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: *Anyone* in this community can step up and do that. Anyone can make observations and proposals, but not everyone has the authority to effect change. Anyone can proactively

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Jon Degenhardt via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 16:48:16 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: There's clearly in part a scaling problem here (in terms of how many people are available in general, and in terms of how many people have expertise on particular parts of the library) but it also feels like a few

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 20:43:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: *Anyone* in this community can step up and do that. Anyone can make observations and proposals, but not everyone has the authority to effect change. I appreciate how frustrating it must be to have people saying, 'Hey, do

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 16:48:16 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: which is that after some initial interest and feedback, the PR just got left alone with no decision to accept or reject it, and no indication of why. This is why I only contribute to Phobos to be quite honest. I

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Daniel Kozak via Digitalmars-d-announce
Dne 9.2.2017 v 21:43 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce napsal(a): On 2/9/2017 12:29 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: Yes, but it could be good to examine what can be done to more pro-actively look at open PRs that have had no recent follow-up. *Anyone* in this community can step up

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/9/2017 12:29 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: Yes, but it could be good to examine what can be done to more pro-actively look at open PRs that have had no recent follow-up. *Anyone* in this community can step up and do that.

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 19:53:37 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: There's a lot going on needing attention, and sometimes a bit of championing is needed by their proponents. Yes, but it could be good to examine what can be done to more pro-actively look at open PRs that have had no recent

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 19:58:57 UTC, Seb wrote: We gave this a try a couple of months ago with Facebook's mention-bot: Example: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4318#issuecomment-241817191 Repo: https://github.com/dlang-bots/mention-bot Eventually I disabled it because people

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 19:42:03 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote: On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 19:36:52 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Good idea! Please investigate how to get github to generate such emails. In the meantime, the PR guidelines are here: We gave this a try a couple of months ago

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/9/2017 8:55 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 09:49:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: In any case, shouldn't it be an uphill battle to merge things? There are a lot of things that need to be satisfied to merge something. Being too hasty leads to legacy code that

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 19:36:52 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Good idea! Please investigate how to get github to generate such emails. In the meantime, the PR guidelines are here: This is already somewhat done with the PR bot we have. The DlangBot notifies reviewers on the DMD repo, but

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/9/2017 8:48 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: Contrast this with the experience I had the one time I submitted a (tiny, trivial) patch to rust: immediately after submitting the PR I got a message from their 'highfive' robot that included: * a friendly thank you for the PR; * the

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 02/09/2017 04:49 AM, Walter Bright wrote: On 2/8/2017 11:09 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: And any PRs I have managed to get through were all uphill battles the whole way. You have contributed 5 PRs to dmd: https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aabscissa 1 is open

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 09:49:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: In any case, shouldn't it be an uphill battle to merge things? There are a lot of things that need to be satisfied to merge something. Being too hasty leads to legacy code that we come to regret, angry people whose code was

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 08:02:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: The PR in question: https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/4745 It took me a while to find it, because you were using a pseudonym that I did not recognize. There are a number of frequent contributors to D using pseudonyms, and

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 08:02:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I suppose I could write a cheat sheet and tape it to the wall of my office, but why not just use your name? It shouldn't matter who wrote it. Review the code, not the author, especially on small ones like this which new

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/8/2017 11:09 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: And any PRs I have managed to get through were all uphill battles the whole way. You have contributed 5 PRs to dmd: https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aabscissa 1 is open (it's controversial) 1 closed (today by me)

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread evilrat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 February 2017 at 08:02:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I do not understand using pseudonyms on github. It can hardly be a privacy issue, as github doesn't hide your name. But it definitely impedes your "brand", i.e. your reputation, as it becomes divided in two. Github does not

Re: two points

2017-02-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 2/8/2017 11:09 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: I fixed an issue where "///"-style doc comments resulted in excessive paragraph breaks...must've been over a year ago. Simple fix for a nagging bug. The fix worked. Caused no problems. No controversy. And to this day, just went completely ignored

Re: two points

2017-02-08 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 02/09/2017 01:08 AM, Joakim wrote: I agree that "coercion," or more accurately the tyranny of the default, is the dominant factor in language popularity even today, but you're reaching when you apply that to web frameworks too. Fair enough. It was just another example trying to make the

two points

2017-02-08 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
I'm not going to fill out the questionnaire because I'm not at a company and have not tried Mir, but two points about what Nick and Mike wrote. On Wednesday, 8 February 2017 at 20:40:48 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Coercion (and perceived coercion[1] for that matter) makes technologies