Re: [digitalradio] Olivia vs. MFSK16

2005-04-05 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I think Olivia at slower rates with 250Hz or 500Hz will be useful for APRS-like message exchange, to use in place of email or cell phones for setting up skeds, self-spotting, etc. The slow rate will ensure it is not used wantonly, but the ability to puch through 7100 AM QRM will help. On Mon,

Re: [digitalradio] Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Danny C Douglas
Quoting Paul L Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: "Why do gentlemen's agreements work on 160 meters but nowhere else? Does anyone remember back a few years when we all had to look at the cheat-sheet to see which segments of 160 we could use for ANYTHING, then see how much power we could have in that se

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread John Becker
I also have been a BBS SYSOP since 1983 First running on a 64k radio shack system and later the MSYS... Sorry if I got you all up-set man At 04:46 PM 4/5/05, you wrote: >I was first licensed in 1952, and have been an alternate sysop on a packet >BBS, Thank you. Your rash assumptions may b

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Bill Aycock
I was first licensed in 1952, and have been an alternate sysop on a packet BBS, Thank you. Your rash assumptions may bite you in the*** someday. There was one very great difference in the "Unattended Packet" stations and the current digital conflicts.- They operated on very well defined freque

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread John Becker
I take it you ham been a ham for 10 years or less ? Or just don't remember per internet and all those packet system all running unattended.. Then came pactor as to what is in now. John, WØJAB At 01:01 PM 4/5/05, you wrote: >I think this opinion is false-to-fact. IMO, most Hams want direct, >

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Bill Aycock
I think this opinion is false-to-fact. IMO, most Hams want direct, person-to-person communication, not anonymous relaying of other peoples text. That is the foundation of Ham radio. ANY automated , personless passing on of text is sterile and fit for the Internet, but not Ham radio, except for

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Joel Kolstad
I think that one of the reasons there's so much contention over Winlink is that it DOES work as well as it does... IMO, the ability to pass e-mail back to _the Internet_ is what people want, and while PSK31, Olivia, and all the other 'chat mode' protocols and even packet BBSes are a lot of fu

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Skip Teller
Message: 19 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:39:06 -0500 From: "Rick Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Winlink take over? Skip, With all due respect, (and you have considerable), it seems that some of the arguments may be counter productive and may in some cases affect the survival of amateu

Re: [digitalradio] Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Paul L Schmidt
They both "use" SSB transmissions, and it's quite true that SSTV is not data -- SSTV is "image", and the U.S. phone bands are designated "voice/image" and "data". It is still illegal in the U.S. to be on a voice frequency and say "OK, Bob, Here's the data you need: [multi- tone beeps for 20 secon

RE: [digitalradio] Winlink take over?

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Williams
Hi Danny, Under serious emergencies involving the safety of life or property you can theoretically do certain things that you can not legally do under normal circumstances. (If you have had the ARRL Emcomm class you know that there can be some limitations so good judgement needs to be used. One