[digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-29 Thread expeditionradio
John VE5MU wrote: For general Ham use , for example on 20M, if ALE becomes popular, then the collisions on the sounding channel will be such that very few will get through. Hi John, Fortunately, that's not the way it works with ALE, John. There is plenty of room for thousands of ALE

Re: [digitalradio] -tor modes and PCs

2006-08-29 Thread KV9U
Because of the timing issues with Amtor/Pactor/Gtor, etc., it seems clear that we should be developing modes that do work with the kind of computers that most all hams have available to them. Because of the mediocre performance, I would consider Pactor I and certainly Amtor to be obsolete for

Re: [digitalradio] -tor modes and PCs

2006-08-29 Thread John Becker
At 08:14 AM 8/29/2006,Rick,KV9U wrote in part: I would consider Pactor I and certainly Amtor to be obsolete for all practical purposes. Far from it Rick. I have been on Amtor from just about day one and still us the mode a lot even today. Same holds true for Pactor-1. I will agree that it's not

[digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-29 Thread Dave Bernstein
AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, that's not the way it works with ALE, John. There is plenty of room for thousands of ALE operators around the world on the few ALE HF channels we presently use now. Signals are

RE: [digitalradio] -tor modes and PCs

2006-08-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
When amateur radio operators who are used to keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs and then go to a data transfer or messaging system, they do tend to become impatient with ACK times. I do believe that if we understand that we can send several/many seconds of data that have a moderate level FEC, we can

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-29 Thread KV9U
OK Steve, I got the impression that the various modes mentioned below were a part of STANAG 5066 and did not realize that there is a separate DLP part of STANAG 5066. The jargon gets to be a bit much, but very common for military type descriptors. For some reason, the data transfer part of

[digitalradio] FW: Hardware Questions

2006-08-29 Thread Harold Aaron
I am running a KAM PLUS TNC. How do you make the KAM PLUS read a text file containing set-up parameters? Next question, I have the KAM PLUS feeding and receiving output from a PRO III via ACC1 plug. The TNC is wired for audio into the rig, as well as FSK. How do you know which mode is in use

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Hajducek
GA Rick, Patrick: The stuff from MIL-STD-188-141B that relates the MIL-STD-118-110x modem and Data Link Protocols (DLP) via other standards (e.g. FS-1052 DLP, S5066 DLP etc.) is all high speed serial tone and as specified, not legal under FCC Part 97 at present in the U.S., I do not know

Re: [digitalradio] Can You Call Another Ham On The Air? Right Now?

2006-08-29 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:29:17 -, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you might be a little embarassed to answer... Well, I can't really just call them up like the telephone. or It is not that easy. REPLY FOLLOWS If you called them up on

[digitalradio] Using 8FSK ARQ in PCALE (Re: ALE QRM is minimal)

2006-08-29 Thread expeditionradio
As a convenience, many of the amateur radio ALE operators with PCALE have been using the built-in 8FSK modem for texting. It uses the same 8 tones and baud rate that the main ALE part of the system uses for calling. For keyboarding/texting, we often use the feature called DTM (Data Text Message)