[digitalradio] Re: Digipan questions

2006-10-15 Thread John
Sorry Andy, that doesn't work either! I've extended the cell halfway across the screen, and it just refuses to work! I think I'll have to manually alter the date on the first entry of each operating session, and then do a fill down for the others. John --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com,

[digitalradio] New PCALE Beta Version Re: ALE activity today

2006-10-15 Thread expeditionradio
Ed WB6YTE wrote: I installed and attempted to setup PCALE yesterday but encountered a few problems. I did not find my radio (TS-2000) in the MIL-STD-188-141 menu. Is this program limited to the radios listed? There is only one com port selection for radio control. Can separate

[digitalradio] Excellent Demo Re: AOR DV Sound Quality

2006-10-15 Thread expeditionradio
There was a live demo, backpack-to-backpack, of AOR DV on 40 meters at the Pacificon HFpack forum today. It sounded superb, better than a full-quieting FM repeater! Everyone was very impressed. Bonnie KQ6XA Paul Metzger KQ6EH wrote: Here is one I had recorded myself directly into my computer

[digitalradio] What is an image and what is data

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Miller
The answers to these questions about what is an image is simple in one respect. The current FCC rules allow digital emissions throughout the 160 through 10 meter bands. This is true because emissions that have a 1 or a 2 as the second symbol of the emissions designator are allowed everywhere.

Re: [digitalradio] What is an image and what is data

2006-10-15 Thread Robert McGwier
These FCC rules are very poorly drawn. I can send every signal digital file transfer in the phone band with a single bit per second of an image as that makes it an image transfer. I do this by attaching an icon/avatar to each transmission. I then get 3 kHz to do my file transfers. To avoid

[digitalradio] Missed Live AOR Demo

2006-10-15 Thread Paul Metzger
Darn, I missed Ken, I was on 40m yesterday giving Mark (K6MJD) his very first AOR DV contact. During that QSO, as we switched back to analog, there was a station out in Las Vegas that asked us if we were using the AOR Digital Voice modems. He added that he had been looking into them

[digitalradio] Real-Time sked page?

2006-10-15 Thread Nick
Anyone here using a real time site to set up skeds? I have had mixed results looking for a QSO on a particular mode by posting here. There is of course http://dxworld.com/ddx.html but it isn't getting a whole lot of use. A sked page is sorely needed so we can do these modes some justice. QRV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF signal propagation effects publications

2006-10-15 Thread Arthur J. Lekstutis
Hi, I decided to spring the $13 IEEE wanted for the article. It seems a bit much, but the 'Watterson Model' is referenced frequently and I should probably understand it. I also probably should have gone down to the local university library and copied the 12 pages there. For those that are

[digitalradio] Re: Real-Time sked page?

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here using a real time site to set up skeds? I have had mixed results looking for a QSO on a particular mode by posting here. There is of course http://dxworld.com/ddx.html but it isn't getting a whole lot of use. A

Re: [digitalradio] What is an image and what is data: correction

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Miller
This should read Data emissions in the Phone/Image bands. 73, N5RFX At 10:46 AM 10/15/2006, N5RFXwrote: Allowing Data emissions in the RTTY/Phone bands. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector :

[digitalradio] AOR versus WinDRM robust

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I asked MelK0PFX about WinDRM versus AOR since he is very experienced with both. His answer was... AOR is little more robust, but not much Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector :

[digitalradio] Using digital image software for emerhency communication?

2006-10-15 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I'm not much of a fan of trading pictures over the airways but since I have become familiar with how to operate WinDRM I have also taken the time to explore Hampal and DIGTRX. Hampal and DIGTRX look to me to be exactly what software should look like for emergency communication of messages. I

Re: [digitalradio] What is an image and what is data

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Miller
Bill, Part 2 of the FCC rules section 2.1 has definitions. Look at the link below. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47PART=2SECTION=1YEAR=2000TYPE=TEXT I was not quoting; thus the absence of quotation marks, but you can see the definitions of Telegraphy and Facsimile

Re: [digitalradio] What is an image and what is data

2006-10-15 Thread KV9U
Mark, I do appreciate your incremental success in at least getting image (albeit in a very narrow 500 Hz BW) in the HF data area. There will be a few cases where this might be nice to have such as small images, diagrams, or maybe even something new that we have not thought of and since now

Re: [digitalradio] What is an image and what is data

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Miller
I agree, and the FCC is accepting petitions. 73, Mark N5RFX But I really do believe that we need to be able to move data on the phone frequencies. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector :

Re: [digitalradio] Using digital image software for emerhency communication?

2006-10-15 Thread KV9U
Andy, I too have come to realize that WinDRM, or something similar, could play a role in emergency and traffic handling data. Because this stuff tends to be a bit complicated, the ideal situation would be to use phone to coordinate the program and then send the data through. With the BSR

Re: [digitalradio] Wider Bandwidths and Frequency Choices Needed in Future

2006-10-15 Thread Danny Douglas
But Bonnie, no one is asking that 500 HZ be the maximum in use. They are simply saying that it should be the maximum in certain portions of the band plan. Other portions of the bands will still be available for 3 or more KC bandwidths. It is just hopeful that we can scatter thus stuff out to

Re: [digitalradio] Linux Adds Real Time Features.

2006-10-15 Thread KV9U
Harv, Just because they are not immediately available, doesn't mean that they won't become available when they increase the mass production. They actually believe that the price can go down with more numbers. We may have to pay a bit more, but then again, very few in the developed world would

[digitalradio] Many FCC Errors: Voice/Phone/Digi 3600-3700kHz Re: What is mode?

2006-10-15 Thread expeditionradio
Hi Rick and others, I noticed something peculiar about this recent FCC RO: they are talking about Voice instead of Phone. Previously, the only definition for subbands was phone. The only ham band having a Voice rule that I know of is the 5MHz channels. The rest of the bands are Phone. In

[digitalradio] Re: Wider Bandwidths and Frequency Choices Needed in Future

2006-10-15 Thread expeditionradio
Danny Douglas N7DC wrote: But Bonnie, no one is asking that 500 HZ be the maximum in use. Hi Danny, Actually, many organisations are asking for limitations of 500Hz or 200Hz in large chunks of the bands. See the recent proposal for rulemaking by ARRL, which is currently being considered

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Wider Bandwidths and Frequency Choices Needed in Future

2006-10-15 Thread Danny Douglas
I know some have asked for chunks that way, but at the same time for chunks with larger signal bandwidth. What I am concerned about is some 3 kc signal getting on top of us when we are using cw or psk or some other narrower signal, and wiping us out. Already happens with RTTY , contesia, etc.

[digitalradio] Many FCC Errors: Voice/Phone/Digi 3600-3700kHz Re: What is mode?

2006-10-15 Thread Dave Bernstein
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As for the supposed loss or disappearance of the automatic band at 3620kHz to 3635kHz, I do not believe this FCC error should be allowed to stand for very long. Perhaps the FCC's interim correction to the

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Wider Bandwidths and Frequency Choices Needed in Future

2006-10-15 Thread John Champa
Bonnie has a good point! The ARRL HSMM Working Group recommended at least the same bandwidth for HF digital research and advancement as the current ARRL bandplan recommended for a old legacy mode such as AM. The recommendation was obviously rejected. John - K8OCL From: expeditionradio

[digitalradio] Time-sharing: HF single-channel voice repeaters, digital chat rooms, etc

2006-10-15 Thread expeditionradio
Traditional analog techniques for bandwidth use in our ham bands have been based upon loose cooperation (some say non-cooperation) through separating QSOs by frequency. This frequency-centric model has driven the bandplans. But a new paradigm is now unfolding, with the use of time-sharing