RE: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-05-07 Thread Rick Williams
-Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Waterman, k4cjx Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 6:13 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning Rick, We would LOVE to have a redundant system, but only

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-05-07 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
ce ... emergency communications. And perhaps even more importantly, > if you don't have those systems in place and used daily, contrary to what > some people believe, they won't be there when you need them the most. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > > > ---

RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Bob DeHaney
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 17:16 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning Bob DeHaney wrote: >It is clear that the ARRL serves a vital representative need for radio >amateurs wor

Re: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Vince
Bob DeHaney wrote: >It is clear that the ARRL serves a vital representative need for radio >amateurs worldwide. In the time I've been licensed (since 1961), they've >saved our mutual bacon several times. Your digital modes are permitted >because the ARRL lobbied for them and got the regulations

RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Bob DeHaney
neral population couldn't care less. Bob -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob DeHaney Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 15:17 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning It is clear that the ARR

Re: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread DavesRadio\"RR\"
: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning It is clear that the ARRL serves a vital representative need for radio amateurs worldwide. In the time I've been licensed (since 1961), they've saved our mutual bacon several times. Your digital modes are permitted because the ARRL lobbied fo

RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Bob DeHaney
democracy, flawed as it is, it's the best we have at present. Vy 73, DJ0MBC/WU5T -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 14:48 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RE: W

Re: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Vince
N7HIY wrote: >Don't hold your breath Skip, waiting for the ARRL board to change their >Winlink Pactor band/mode petition. Their decision to totally take over the >HF bands was made long before their socalled meeting. It's now time we vote >with our wallets at ARRL advertisers, ARRL membershi

Re: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread N7HIY
Skip Teller scribed> "I agree, and appropriate restrictions on unattended operations of all kinds are essential to continue to provide sufficient space for alternate tools, and not let that space be dominated by a single system like Winlink. Let's amend the ARRL petition to provide enough space

[digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-23 Thread Skip Teller
> Message: 5 >Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:54:21 -0500 >From: "Rick Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Winlink Scanning > > Some specific replies to Skip: > > Skip: I don't think the radio amateur community as a whole agrees to > sacrifice unreasonable for > the operating conve

RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-22 Thread Rick Williams
Some specific replies to Skip: Skip: I don't think the radio amateur community as a whole agrees to sacrifice unreasonable for the operating convenience of less-than-1% of the US hams, and only 0.3% of hams world wide, just for a minor increase in convenience for the less-than-1%. KV9U: There is

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
We fundementally agree, Skip: Winlink (and all other semi-automatic station automation software with the ability to detect busy frequencies) should expeditiously be modified to peacefully coexist with all other users of the amateur spectrum. Whether this is achieved by utilizing the SCS modem

[digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-22 Thread Skip Teller
ow that's where they transmit so > > > we > > > try to leave the frequency open for them. They do not frequency hop or > > > where > > > would we listen? Or weren't you aware of this? > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > Bob DJ0

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-22 Thread Dave Bernstein
***AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Teller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once he resumes scanning, he is going to connect with the strongest caller that he can hear, even if there are multiple callers. The only way he would be unable to connect is if all calle

RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-21 Thread Rick Williams
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Skip Teller Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:09 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning > >>>By distributing callers across multiple scanned frequencies, the > incidence of multiple callers colliding on a sin

[digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-21 Thread Skip Teller
> >>>By distributing callers across multiple scanned frequencies, the > incidence of multiple callers colliding on a single frequency is > reduced. Such collisions prevent the PMBO from connecting with any > of the competing callers, increasing time-from-request-to- > connection. If the callers ca

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
>>>AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Howard S. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A Couple of Comments: > 1.My 6 SSB Channels equivalency assumed equal distribution of traffic over the 24 hours of the day... in the real world, traffic tends to cluster around

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-20 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning A good example of scanning is provided in the "Station Description" section of Steve K4CJX's web page at http://www.winlink.org/stations/k4cjx.htm .Excerpting from this description

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
>>>AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Teller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave, how is the time-from-request-to connection reduced by scanning? >>>By distributing callers across multiple scanned frequencies, the incidence of multiple callers colliding on a sing

RE: [digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-20 Thread Rick Williams
know that one callsign is used for many, many different simultaneous signals on the air. Rick, KV9U -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Skip Teller Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:53 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [

[digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-20 Thread Skip Teller
> Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 04:49:28 - >From: "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Winlink Scanning > While such an increase may reduce the time-from- > request-to-connection for Winlink users, its wrong to do this by > inconveniencing other operators -- unless

[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-19 Thread Dave Bernstein
A good example of scanning is provided in the "Station Description" section of Steve K4CJX's web page at http://www.winlink.org/stations/k4cjx.htm . Excerpting from this description, >>>Beginning of excerpt<<< Station one: a Kenwood TS-2000 at 100 watts operating on the 40, and 20 meter

[digitalradio] RE: Winlink Scanning

2005-04-19 Thread Skip Teller
Ed, thank you very much for explaining this to us. > Now, in my book, it makes absolutely no sense for the PMBOs to be > scanning, that's something that the user stations should be doing. After > all, when you have two phones in the house, just look to see which one > is not in use. That's called