RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-30 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) Ok...If you can't provide or won't provide a service the public wants, the public may be asking for your frequencies. Remember its our bands if we fulfill our charter. If we don't, our bands may

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-30 Thread Tim Gorman
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 14:23, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: Ok...If you can't provide or won't provide a service the public wants, the public may be asking for your frequencies. Remember its our bands if we fulfill our charter. If we don't, our bands may become someone elses

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) See below...Walt -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Danny Douglas Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:46 PM To: digitalradio

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) Concerning the AOR DV... I believe that you might be able to get two DV QSOs in the same 3 KHz channel at the same time...but I can't say for sure. The problem with the AOR DV or Dream DV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread Tim Gorman
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 10:23, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: If you can't provide or won't provide a service that your customer wants, they may be asking for your frequencies. Remember its our bands if we fulfill our charter. If we don't, our bands may become

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
- Original Message - From: Tim Gorman To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) On Tuesday 29 November 2005 10:23, DuBose Walt Civ AETC C

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread Tim Gorman
- Katrina, 2003 San Diego Fires, 911 - Original Message - From: Tim Gorman To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) On Tuesday 29 November

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FTP - (Soundcard) Well yes...speed and robustness. Something down aroung -5 to -10 dB SNR on a poor CCIR channel and speeds that would produce 3-5 printed pages of information a minute. Pages Per Minute (PPM) is now how

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
2005 9:35 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) I know that Walt wants an ultra wideband unconnected mode for HF emergency communications, but it seems that all this is going to be moot assuming the ARRL bandwid

[digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Dave Bernstein
Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Bernstein Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:28 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) My assumption of 100

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Danny Douglas
PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) On Monday 28 November 2005 10:27, Dave Bernstein wrote: If 4 users are sharing the channel, then each will see a quarter

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Williams
Walt, Did you get a chance to try out SCAMP when it was temporarily available as an experimental mode? The average computer of today, 1 GHz, can handle some pretty strong ARQ decoding. The concept of not being able to download the next block while decoding seems to me to be an obsolete

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Gorman
On Monday 28 November 2005 09:49, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: I believe that there is a possibibility of having 150 KHz or 300 KHz wide channels with many very high speed and robust QSOs going on all using the same bandwidth. Basically spread spectrum like mode within a defined

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FTP - (Soundcard) Dave makes several invalid assumptions...but mainly that the 16 KHz signal would not allow any other modes or like modes access to the same 16 KHz...this is an error. I would submit that a properly

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread Tim Gorman
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 15:14, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: Dave makes several invalid assumptions...but mainly that the 16 KHz signal would not allow any other modes or like modes access to the same 16 KHz...this is an error.  I would submit that a properly designed mode using

[digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread Dave Bernstein
My assumption of 100% utilization was based your saying The composite signaling rate would be 51200 bps. If you're now saying this is a shared-channel protocol design to support 4 users, then why not instead provide a single-channel protocol that's *only* 4 khz in width? If we think about

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread Rick Williams
-Original Message-From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave BernsteinSent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 17:28To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) My assumption of 100