Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
Goes Unpunished"Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist""Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"Website: www.ky6la.com - Original Message - From: Dave Bernstein To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:12 PM Subj

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
- Original Message - From: Dave Bernstein To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Please explain why SCAMP would not totally displace Pactor as a transport

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread n3hkn
Automatic stations that occupy unpredictable frequencies are not in the spirit of Ham Radio when these stations blindly begin transmitting with absolutely no regard to the existing occupants of the frequencies. This is a hobby. It is not a mandate from on-high to provide emergency

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread Dave Bernstein
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:12 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Please explain why SCAMP would not totally displace Pactor as a transport protocol for Winlink. 73, Dave, AA6YQ

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread Mike/k1eg
- Original Message - From: "n3hkn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:08 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Automatic stations that occupy unpredictable frequencies are not in the spirit of Ham R

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
ca"Website: www.ky6la.com - Original Message - From: Dave Bernstein To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:27 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team For non-realtime message delivery, you would choose a protoc

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
ay, April 12, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team No, Howard, I'm wondering why a service that requires only the equivalent of 6 SSB channels to move its traffic is optimizing above all for throughput rather than taking into account the QRM it ca

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread dhbernstein
Formerly Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist Krazy Yankee Six Loves America Website: www.ky6la.com - Original Message - From: Dave Bernstein To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-12 Thread dhbernstein
Formerly Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist Krazy Yankee Six Loves America Website: www.ky6la.com - Original Message - From: Dave Bernstein To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Cliff Hazen
Is the name of their SCS robot pactor detector Maximillian or Arnold? Both were quit effective but did have design flaws. Cliff N7HIY Dave scribed "Several times now, you have mentioned the busy detector in the SCS modem, and each time, I've reminded you that it only detects Pactor

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
Dave, Thanks for the note. Just getting back here. You are mostly correct, and there has been efforts to attempt to request improvement for the SCS signal detection. Assuming band planning will follow the FCC's recommendations, my personal thinking is that it will need to be deployed for

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Rick Williams
on the WL2K system. Rick, KV9U -Original Message- From: Steve Waterman, k4cjx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Rick, Yes, the WL2KEmComm group is focused

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Rud K5RUD
: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Rick, Yes, the WL2KEmComm group is focused on implementation issues, and is not set up for should we discussions regarding deployments. As modorator of the group, I have

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
server on the WL2K system. Rick, KV9U -Original Message- From: Steve Waterman, k4cjx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:58 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Rick, Yes, the WL2KEmComm

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AA6YQ comments below: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steve Waterman, k4cjx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I would be surprised if the SCS modem has the horsepower to implement multi-mode busy

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-11 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a million questions and the source code is required but I can do the busy detection algorithms in short order. I have been too swamped to do anything about modem work but if I can help make this better

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
Dave, The problem is not that we mind any opposition to what we are doing. It gives us an opportunity to tell our story. The problem is not the protocol we use, be it Amtor, Clover, Pactor, SCAMP or what comes next, and next after that, nor is it the fact that we stopped using fully,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Kurt
Howard, I have been paying attention to the different messages on Winlink, some I agree with some I don't, but I did see you mention SCAMP, is this downloadable software? 73 Kurt WA8VBX The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Jose Amador
I had opted not to participate in this thread so far, but it seems once again that the hidden station case is not seen, and it is very common on HF, even DXers know about it to their frustration Anyone that does not hear any other station may trigger a Winlink PMBO response. This may

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Rick Williams
.) that have not even been addressed yet. Rick, KV9U -Original Message- From: Steve Waterman, k4cjx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:10 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Dave, The problem

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Mike/k1eg
2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Steve I will pick a bone with you on this statement. Because you are usinga proprietary modem that costs over $1000.00 you are slowing the spread ofemergency communications in ARES. Contrary to

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
. And there are other issues (security, etc.) that have not even been addressed yet. Rick, KV9U -Original Message- From: Steve Waterman, k4cjx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:10 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Advice

[digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Steve Waterman, k4cjx
Dave, You did make two statements that I find in conflict: Requiring busy detectors for attended operation makes no sense, Steve. As Rick KV9U pointed out, any SSB, RTTY, CW, or PSK operator who knowingly calls over existing QSOs would simply disable the busy detector. I did not suggest

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team

2005-04-09 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
om - Original Message - From: Mike/k1eg To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Advice to the Winlink team Dr. White I am glad to see that were getting away from a proprietary modem and going