I have never heard a WinLink PMBO identify in CW. I'll do some tests
with my SCS modem to see if disconnections *always* include an
identification in either P1 or CW.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dave
When a
Hi Jose and all,
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With packet forwarding, there was noone even attempting to park on a
HF
forwarding frequency. Common sense prevailed (even when a few crazy
contesters sometimes attempted to overpower the BBS
Hi,
I am QRV now and until 15.00z at 14.105 KHZ (center frequency) on
PACTOR1, 2 or 3. I plan to do the same every Sunday from now on.
You are all invited for a QSO.
73 de Demetre SV1UY
Unfortunately this statement is only half true.
The one thing that concerns me a great deal is that the automated
stations are not listening before transmitting and at least here in the
U.S. are operating illegally. And they even are open about this with
comments made by the administrator of
Dave
When a P3 station disconnects there is an ID
in P1 or CW or both.
John, W0JAB
At 07:18 PM 9/15/2007, you wrote:
Since Pactor 3 can't be decoded with soundcard software and the SCS
decoder is relatively expensive, most hams can't decode Pactor 3
messages. Thus when QRM'd by an unattended
Hi,
If this is such a great mode, I wonder why so many call it a pactor
pest or a plague.
Maybe the answer is on this website: http://www.digipan.net/
Have a nice day.
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Demetre SV1UY skrev:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com,
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi,
If this is such a great mode, I wonder why so many call it a pactor
pest or a plague.
Maybe the answer is on this website: http://www.digipan.net/
Have a nice day.
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Hi Steinar,
All good points, Demetre,
While Pactor modes can not go as fast as the 8PSK2400 modes, I suspect
that it does compete well with those modes in real world HF conditions
when in the +5 to +20 dB S/N range. From everything I have been able to
find, none of the $5000 ALE modems can operate much
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are very correct that Clover II was not a very good mode,
especially
considering the price, since it was only a bit faster than Pactor I and
perhaps similar in ability to operate in weak signals.
Yet I have one friend
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All good points, Demetre,
[snip]
Thank you for the information on RFSM2400, as many of us suspected that
it would require a very good signal to work well. Once you reach a
threshold of adequate S/N, it probably works as
Demetre, the problem is not the bandwidth, but as Skip Teller, KH6TY
try to point out: The number of times PACTOR stations override PSK31,
PSK63, or CW communications is so great that the probability is that
they seldom, if ever, listen first in their passion to use the ham
bands as an
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Demetre, the problem is not the bandwidth, but as Skip Teller, KH6TY
try to point out: The number of times PACTOR stations override PSK31,
PSK63, or CW communications is so great that the probability is that
Since Pactor 3 can't be decoded with soundcard software and the SCS
decoder is relatively expensive, most hams can't decode Pactor 3
messages. Thus when QRM'd by an unattended Pactor 3 station, most
hams can't determine the offending callsign and so can't initiate an
appropriate action.
The only mode I have ever used that comes close to the feel of Clover
II, is the new ALE FAE mode. Currently, it is a non-standard form of ALE
and only available on Multipsk. But after you make the connection, you
don't have to switch back and forth. I did not have good luck with the
mode
Hi all,
I would like to add my two cents.
Demetre SV1UY wrote:
Well it all depends on what is an amateur mode. Is it a mode which is
free of charge? I wish I also had a free of charge radio and computer,
but this is not possible unfortunatelly.
Something that is NEVER argued, but is very
The same happens with pactor, keyboard mode (also on packet).
You type, the message accumulates in the buffer, until you press the
ENTER key, or exceed the buffer set size.
Jose, CO2JA
Rick wrote:
The only mode I have ever used that comes close to the feel of Clover
II, is the new ALE FAE
Roger J. Buffington wrote:
Demetre SV1UY wrote:
First off PACTOR 3 supports DCD control so it can listen before it
transmits. Now maybe the Winlink people have a good reason to have
their automatic MBOS not support the DCD control, but the human
operator that calls an automatic MBO
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
- At least one person who actually maintains and deploys ALE in the
military is not very impressed with it as there are problems with not
working that well, particularly no having good throughput such as for
Hi Demetre,
I was not suggesting that hams would be using $5000 modems. I won't even
buy the relatively low cost SCS modem for ~ $1000.
The reason of course, is that we now have amateur sound card modes, and
are likely to have more of them in the future, and they are for the most
part at no
It may hold the link, but thruput goes wy down
Jose, CO2JA
Rick wrote:
Does Pactor 3 really work well at -18 dB? I would like to see some
tests that show this, but have not found much on the internet. I
understand that some hams compared Clover products and presented the
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