Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Tony
PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes If you're referring to CPU usage as reported by the Windows Task Manager, that's an average. The question is whether any app is being starved for CPU resources during critical operations. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Simon Brown (KNS)
Dave, IMO any data program will be talking to the soundcard with a nice big FIFO so CPU shouldn't be an issue. From memory I use a 10 second FIFO on receive and 2 second on transmit. I can't think of any problems that could arise as long as there are some free CPU cycles. What am I missing?

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Brent Gourley
Dothan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (KNS) To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, IMO any data program will be talking to the soundcard with a nice big

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Dave AA6YQ
, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:11 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, The question is whether any app is being starved

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-04 Thread Dave AA6YQ
: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, IMO any data program will be talking to the soundcard with a nice big FIFO so CPU shouldn't be an issue. From memory I use a 10 second FIFO on receive and 2 second on transmit. I can't think of any problems that could arise as long as there are some free CPU

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-03 Thread Tony
: Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Stelios's note raises another point independent of sampling rate issues: when running more than one digital mode app on the same processor, one

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-10-03 Thread Dave AA6YQ
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:35 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Dave, when running more than one digital mode app on the same processor, one or both apps may be starved for CPU cycles and as a result

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Simon Brown (KNS)
DM780 samples at 8kHz and has a lot of encoder / decoder code in common with fldigi. MT63 / Olivia having being taken from Pavel's original code. I'll try to find the Microsoft Blog entries which explain why some rates such as 11,025Hz are so poor with W2K / XP but not with VISTA. It's not a

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Simon Brown (KNS)
I'm sure fldigi uses 8kHz in general and 11,025 when needed for some Thor / DominoEx modes. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Dave AA6YQ
-Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stelios Bounanos Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:03 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: Tony Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:04:19 -0400, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
regulate the possible small shift between RX and TX sample rates). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Stelios Bounanos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-30 Thread Tony
30, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Hello Tony, The sample rate on Multipsk is 11025 samples/s for all modes except in MT63 where it is 8000. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:14 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications are using

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread matt gregory
I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH THE BELOW STATEMENT EX MT 63 I RUN IZ8BLY DECODE IS GREAT BUT SLOW COMPARED TO MULTI PSK 4.9/4.10 WHICH IS 2X FASTER DECODE BUT PRONE TO MORE ERRORS TEST DONE ON SAME RECEIVER TO CPU'S AND GMFSK FOR LINUX PERSONALLY DOESN.T HOLD A CANDLE TO THE OTHER TWO AND NOT ONLY

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications are using the soundcard with different sampling rates, that Windows delivers a compromise sampling rate. Thus comparisons run on the same PC may not accurately reflect each

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
, September 29, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes Its my understanding that when multiple simultaneously running applications are using the soundcard with different sampling rates, that Windows delivers a compromise sampling rate. Thus comparisons run on the same PC may

Re: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Tony
What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? 73, Dave, AA6YQ Dave, The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what's going on with Fldigi. I'm using the Vista version. Tony, K2MO

RE: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes

2008-09-29 Thread Dave AA6YQ
: [digitalradio] Comparing data modes What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony? 73, Dave, AA6YQ Dave, The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like 8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what's going on with Fldigi. I'm using