Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-30 Thread Tim Gorman
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 14:23, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: > Ok...If you can't provide or won't provide a service the public wants, > the public may be asking for your frequencies. Remember its "our bands" > if we fulfill our charter. If we don't, "our bands" may become "someone >

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-30 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) Ok...If you can't provide or won't provide a service the public wants, the public may be asking for your frequencies.  Remember its "our bands" if we fulfill our charter.  If we do

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread Tim Gorman
_ > Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA > Website: www.ky6la.com > "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished" > "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 San Diego Fires, 911" > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - >

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
;             - Original Message - From: Tim Gorman To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) On Tuesday 29 November 2005 10:23, DuBose Walt

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread Tim Gorman
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 10:23, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: > > If you can't provide or won't provide a service that your "customer" > wants, > they may be asking for your frequencies. Remember its "our bands" > if we > fulfill our charter. If we don't, "our bands"

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) Concerning the AOR DV... I believe that you might be able to get two DV QSOs in the same 3 KHz channel at the same time...but I can't say for sure. The problem with the AOR DV or Dream DV is

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) See below...Walt -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Danny Douglas Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:46 PM To: digitalradio

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Gorman
On Monday 28 November 2005 09:49, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: > > I believe that there is a possibibility of having 150 KHz or 300 KHz wide > channels with many very high speed and robust "QSOs" going on all using the > same bandwidth. Basically spread spectrum like mode within a define

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Williams
Walt, Did you get a chance to try out SCAMP when it was temporarily available as an experimental mode? The average computer of today, >1 GHz, can handle some pretty strong ARQ decoding. The concept of not being able to download the next block while decoding seems to me to be an obsolete conce

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Danny Douglas
rom: "Tim Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) > On Monday 28 November 2005 10:27, Dave Bernstein wrote: > > If 4 users are sharing the channel,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread Tim Gorman
On Monday 28 November 2005 10:27, Dave Bernstein wrote: > If 4 users are sharing the channel, then each will see a quarter of > the channel's capacity (less, actually, due to the overhead from the > channel-sharing part of the protocol). If a single user requires all > of the channel's bandwidth to

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
vember 23, 2005 9:35 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) I know that Walt wants an ultra wideband unconnected mode for HF emergency communications, but it seems that all this is going to be moot assu

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard) Yes, all/most of what you suggest and perhaps more innovative coding that might be discovered. We must start thinking out side of the bun...errr box. Hummm, I hadn't thought about token pa

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-28 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FTP - (Soundcard) Well yes...speed and robustness.  Something down aroung -5 to -10 dB SNR on a poor CCIR channel and speeds that would produce 3-5 printed pages of information a minute.  Pages Per Minute (PPM) is now how

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread Rick Williams
I know that Walt wants an ultra wideband unconnected mode for HF emergency communications, but it seems that all this is going to be moot assuming the ARRL bandwidth proposal goes through. From what I have found in discussion with most other digital hams is that almost no one supports the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread Tim Gorman
On Wednesday 23 November 2005 15:14, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: > Dave makes several invalid assumptions...but mainly that the 16 KHz signal > would not allow any other modes or like modes access to the same 16 > KHz...this is an error.  I would submit that a properly designed mode using

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FT P - (Soundcard)

2005-11-23 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 39 Tone DQPSK - ARQ Modem in PCALE with FTP - (Soundcard) Dave makes several invalid assumptions...but mainly that the 16 KHz signal would not allow any other modes or like modes access to the same 16 KHz...this is an error.  I would submit that a properly desi