Hi Guys,
After seeing the BLU presentation on online backups I decided it was time to
get my act together and start to back up my critical files off-site. The
only consideration I had was that whichever software I chose needed to be
cross platform (linux, mac and Windows). I chose Spideroak beca
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris O'Connell
>
> After seeing the BLU presentation on online backups I decided it was time
to
> get my act together and start to back up my critical files off-site. The
I'm sure you're aware of a bunch of direct c
On Apr 11, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>
> I'm sure you're aware of a bunch of direct competitors of spider oak -
> dropbox, sugarsync, box.net, etc... But they all require you pay for
> service over a certain level.
Usually by storage. "The first hit is free." :)
The "problem"
On 4/11/2011 9:36 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
This level of customer service isn't really acceptable. Also, I should have
more control over my files. Who ever heard of a solution that requires you
to delete your account?!?
One of my all-time-favorite Dilbert cartoons is appropriate here:
http
200$ per month or annually, because with 200 bucks you could rent a server.
Sent from my iPhone
On 11/04/2011, at 08:36 p.m., "Chris O'Connell" wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> After seeing the BLU presentation on online backups I decided it was time to
> get my act together and start to back up my criti
annually. Good point about the encryption Rich P.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Franco Castro wrote:
> 200$ per month or annually, because with 200 bucks you could rent a server.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11/04/2011, at 08:36 p.m., "Chris O'Connell"
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Aft
On 04/11/2011 10:48 PM, Bill Horne wrote:
> On 4/11/2011 9:36 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
>> This level of customer service isn't really acceptable. Also, I
>> should have
>> more control over my files. Who ever heard of a solution that
>> requires you
>> to delete your account?!?
>
> One of my al
On 04/12/2011 07:35 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> Love it. When I worked for Burger King back in the early 70s, they
> discovered that a computer operator had mounted the wrong tape 5 years
> earlier, and they had to restate their taxes and financials going back 5
> years. While I was hired primarily
Richard Pieri wrote:
> SpiderOak does have one specific, tangible benefit ...
> The encryption keys are stored entirely on the clients without any escrow.
AFAIK the keys aren't sent to CrashPlan either. Can't prove it because I use
their front-end software to set up the backups and I haven't loo
On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Rich Braun wrote:
>
> "You may elect to secure your key with a private password or use your own
> encryption key. If you elect to use a private key password or your own key,
> they will be required before decrypting backup data. IF YOU ELECT NOT TO HAVE
> CODE 42 STOR
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Richard Pieri wrote:
> Take statements like that with a grain of salt. A provider could be unable
> to recover your passwords but still have access to everything you have stored
> there through a master encryption key. Look for the law enforcement caveat
> in
On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Gordon Marx wrote:
>
> Pardon my "ignorance", but what is a "master encryption key" going to
> do? I upload an encrypted file to them, I keep the key to myself,
> there's no way they can use anything to break it.
Say that your storage provider uses AES-256 so you hav
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Richard Pieri wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Gordon Marx wrote:
>>
>> Pardon my "ignorance", but what is a "master encryption key" going to
>> do? I upload an encrypted file to them, I keep the key to myself,
>> there's no way they can use anything to brea
Spider Oak Update:
I resorted to googling their phone number and called. After being placed on
hold for a few minutes I was told no technical support agent was available.
The girl at the front desk asked if I would mind emailing support instead.
I explained my situation to her and she wasn't ab
On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Gordon Marx wrote:
>
> Uh huh. So what you're saying is, doing it wrong will screw you over.
For certain values of "wrong". I would say that using any kind of "cloud"
storage -- that is, storage pools that you or your organization do not control
-- for confidentia
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf
> Of Gordon Marx
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Richard Pieri
> wrote:
> > Take statements like that with a grain of salt. A provider could be
unable to
> recover your passwords but still have access to everything
On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>
> You're not being ignorant. The master encryption key comment was misplaced,
> or irrelevant in context about crashplan.
I don't believe either is true. From my cursory reading, Crashplan's EULA and
privacy policy say nothing about law e
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Richard Pieri wrote:
>> If you use a private data password, we escrow the locked key for you in case
>> computer is lost or stolen; however we cannot use it as only you (the
>> customer) know the secret (private data password) to unlock it.
>
> I see just enough
On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Gordon Marx wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, or if you're
> honestly not understanding my point.
It was not clear to me that you were using an external encryption system. That
is, not relying on Code 42 for key escrow.
--Rich P.
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Gordon Marx wrote:
> If I upload encrypted data, and I do not give out the encryption key,
> then no "master encryption key" is going to let anyone into that data.
> If there is some way to break AES-256 or RSA, that's a separate issue.
>
>
Is this efficient in pr
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf
> Of Rob Hasselbaum
>
> Is this efficient in practice? For example, if I create an encrypted
volume
> in TrueCrypt, it shows up on the host file system as just a big file. Is
> CrashPlan (or any other backup provider) smart
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>
> I'll point out that in order to do so, it is a requirement
> that the whole thing be read locally which is disk intensive, and possibly
> cpu intensive, but if they live up to the claims, it's not necessarily
> network intensive.
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