Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Graham Lauder
And now I have to eat humble pie and apologise profusely. I did a search back over the marketing list and the announcement is there on the 28th posted by Varun. I don't know how I missed it and now I feel like such an idiot Thorsten, Charles and Christoph, please accept abject apologies. I

[tdf-discuss] Bugs pending from Openoffice

2010-10-05 Thread Venkatesh
Hi I have been using OO since long. I have been developing an IME extension for Asian Scripts in Unicode and encountered several bugs in handling/rendering Unicode Asian fonts and filed issues with OO (which .are yet to be fixed since a long time now), including a new one today. Would LibreOffice

Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] interim structuring - a proposal

2010-10-05 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Christoph, Thorsten, Am Mon, 4 Oct 2010 23:10:27 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Behrens: I do see the don't irritate non-technical QA people argument - but on the other hand I *do* want to get them technically savvy over time, and pick up the 'smell' on were to invest time, if stereotypeDev A

Re: [tdf-discuss] Very large icons in toolbar

2010-10-05 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi James, Am Sun, 3 Oct 2010 17:23:05 +0200 schrieb James Wilde: On Oct 3, 2010, at 17:17 , James Wilde wrote: LO 3.3beta Mac OSX 10.6.4 Have just opened a writer document, and the toolbar icons are very much bigger than the ones I have been using in OOo. Have not yet found a way to

[tdf-discuss] TDF and KOffice

2010-10-05 Thread Danishka Navin
Is there any collaboration between KDE's KOffice and TDF? -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://identi.ca/danishka -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF and KOffice

2010-10-05 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any collaboration between KDE's KOffice and TDF? Would you like to be a bit more specific ? I did notice a somewhat long discussion between you and @aseigo over identi.ca - is this contextually related ? --

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF and KOffice

2010-10-05 Thread Danishka Navin
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Danishka Navin danis...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any collaboration between KDE's KOffice and TDF? Would you like to be a bit more specific ? I was supposed to

[tdf-discuss] Sponsors?

2010-10-05 Thread James R
I've been lurking here for a while just reading and soaking up all the info rmation that is being discussed here. There is one topic I have not seen y et. Several big names have been waved as sponsors... Google, Novell and so on, but no comment on what that sponsorship means for LibO. Are the

RE: [tdf-discuss] Sponsors?

2010-10-05 Thread James R
I've been lurking here for a while just reading and soaking up all the info rmation that is being discussed here. There is one topic I have not se en y et. Several big names have been waved as sponsors... Google, Novell and so on, but no comment on what that sponsorship means for LibO.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Learn to quote

2010-10-05 Thread Valter Mura
In data lunedì 4 ottobre 2010 15:47:59, Nguyen Vu Hung ha scritto: for the sake of usability of this list for all readers, please have a l oo k at: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html @List masters: We should add a warning: Posting rules:

[tdf-discuss] Feature Request

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
Hi, Is this the right place to discuss feature requests please? Paul -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at

[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice md5sum

2010-10-05 Thread Bashar Maree
Hi, Is there an Md5 Checksum for the new beta of LibeOffice? Thanks -- Bashar Maree -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at

[tdf-discuss] I want to contribute as a translator

2010-10-05 Thread Martin
Hi, I'm spanish language native and I would like to contribute as a spanish translator. I was translated some chapters of Migration's guide of OOo and another marketing material. I'm interested to know how TDF will manage the user documentation From my point of view ,LibreOffice could be an

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Valter Mura
In data sabato 2 ottobre 2010 19:00:20, Italo Vignoli ha scritto: Gianluca Turconi wrote: Was the Office suffix a mandatory requirement for marketing reasons? Of course not, but most of the people involved in the project since the first day felt that office was stressing the continuity

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice md5sum

2010-10-05 Thread Dr. Peter Pöml
Hi Bashar, Am 05.10.2010 um 14:56 schrieb Bashar Maree: Is there an Md5 Checksum for the new beta of LibeOffice? Thanks There are MD5 hashes here: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/ There are also further hashes (SHA1, SHA256) if you click on Details next to one of the

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
Valter Mura wrote: Those that were in the loop are part of the group of founding members: there has not been any deliberate process for bringing in friends. We have all earned - if I can use this term - the right to belong to the group based on merit and contribution. I agree with you

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO - was New name

2010-10-05 Thread M Henri Day
2010/10/5 James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com On Oct 5, 2010, at 13:53 , Carlos Jose Lenarts Ramis wrote: I don't like the name LibreOffice but the I like acronym LibO. I'm neutral about LibreOffice, but I agree about LibO. And I can guarantee that it will go over big here in Sweden.

Re: [tdf-discuss] I want to contribute as a translator

2010-10-05 Thread Danishka Navin
Hi Martin, Welcome to LibreOffice l10n :) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Martin mar...@responsivehelp.com wrote: Hi, I'm spanish language native and I would like to contribute as a spanish translator. I was translated some chapters of Migration's guide of OOo and another marketing

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-05 10:15 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Seriously, it is cute, catchy and fluffy! It looks like it will be adopted by everyone just be the sheer fact of usage or common practice. LibO (a.k.a LibreOffice) Too bad none of the main libo domains (I checked .com/org) are available. .. -- Best

[tdf-discuss] Re: Feature Request

2010-10-05 Thread henke54
Wouldn't it be better to 'implement' something like http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ Ubuntu's Brainstorm for feature requests of LibO ? Dell has also such a kind of http://www.ideastorm.com/ IdeaStorm -- View this message in context:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature Request

2010-10-05 Thread RGB ES
There is also a brainstorm section on kde forums: http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#cat83 several ideas implemented on recent kde versions where first discussed ther e 2010/10/5 henke54 henk...@gmail.com: Wouldn't it be better to 'implement' something like http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] eWeek coverage of LibreOffice

2010-10-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
jcausey_df wrote: Just passing along some coverage of LibreOffice coming out today in eWeek's updates: OpenOffice.org Launches LibreOffice Suite to Break Free of Oracle http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/OpenOfficeorg-Launches-LibreOffice-Suite-to-Break-Free-of-Oracle-419664/ I

Re: [PM] Formel-Konverter (war: Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?)

2010-10-05 Thread Nino Novak
sorry, this mail should have been sent as PM but I hit the wrong button. On Tuesday 05 October 2010 21:25, Nino Novak wrote: Hallo Regina, ... -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and

[tdf-discuss] Re: New name

2010-10-05 Thread e-letter
I don't like LibO because I don't like medial capitals (!). For me LO to mean Liberty Office (Software). -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Andy! Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 17:03 -0700 schrieb Andy Brown: On Mon Oct 04 2010 16:29:37 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 16:10 -0700 schrieb Andy Brown: On Mon Oct 04 2010 15:12:06 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: Martin, from Oracle, was

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Good evening Graham! Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 19:24 +1300 schrieb Graham Lauder: Thorsten, Charles and Christoph, please accept abject apologies. I shall now go hide in a hole somewheres. Oh, please do not :-) I owe you a lot of respect to state this here, really. Vice versa, please

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Valter Mura
In data martedì 5 ottobre 2010 18:04:26, Italo Vignoli ha scritto: --cut-- You know, OOo is really huge, and TDF will not be a foundation like many others, because it will be a baby with the size of an adult. What I can suggest at the moment is to watch carefully the progress, and jump on

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious was(Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name)

2010-10-05 Thread Drew Jensen
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 16:15 -0400, Steven Shelton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/2010 10:16 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: Oh Dude - you so funny... I don't understand what that means. *ducks* Yo Steven, I believe that in this instance you are using the word

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Andy Brown
On Tue Oct 05 2010 14:10:26 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Andy! Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 17:03 -0700 schrieb Andy Brown: On Mon Oct 04 2010 16:29:37 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 16:10 -0700 schrieb Andy Brown: On Mon Oct 04 2010 15:12:06

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Friedrich, hi Andy! Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 23:55 +0200 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: Indeed :-) But then we have to ask Graham, whether he is so kind to tell us where to find Martin's mail. I think Andy expects - like I do - that Oracle one of the big companies worldwide is able

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF and KOffice

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi André, thanks for answering this question... Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 15:04 +0200 schrieb Andre Schnabel: Hi, Is there any collaboration between KDE's KOffice and TDF? there is no formal agreement, you know - we are very new in the game :) But people work together at several

[tdf-discuss] Godot's official statement (was:New name)

2010-10-05 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Andy, *, Andy Brown schrieb: On Tue Oct 05 2010 14:10:26 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 17:03 -0700 schrieb Andy Brown: On Mon Oct 04 2010 16:29:37 GMT-0700 (PDT) Christoph Noack wrote: [..] The article only states Oracle said it was investing

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 14:47 -0700, Andy Brown wrote: Just what I said, the message only repeats the same statement. Again no name or reference to where the full statement can be found. Who made the statement? What is their position at Oracle? Anyone can make a statement but how much

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Graham Lauder
Quoting Christoph Noack christoph.no...@documentfoundation.org: Good evening Graham! Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 19:24 +1300 schrieb Graham Lauder: Thorsten, Charles and Christoph, please accept abject apologies. I shall now go hide in a hole somewheres. Oh, please do not :-) I owe you a

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Benjamin, great collection :-) Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 07:38 -0400 schrieb Benjamin Horst: I agree that overthinking and overburdening a wiki with rigid process is harmful, but some upfront organization and planning is still necessary. Yes, rigid processes are harmful for a wiki -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Godot's official statement

2010-10-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: If you take it a face value then there is no way that Oracle is going to hand over the trademark or anything else to the community that has helped build it. Do they actually think that they did all the work to get that 100 million users? Yet there are some that

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Benjamin, I'm sorry for answering your second mail first ... I totally missed this one. So to make it easy for me, thank you very much for this (your) introduction ... and also the hint Foswiki. I'm those guys who will set up the wiki technically, will have a look at it (just for the record:

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
For what it is worth -- my2c LibreOffice Very well expresses the concept of what is being achieved, from the development and adminsitratoin point of view. From an end users perspective ... Well, in International or other English, and possibly some other Germanic/Nordic languages, it is a bit

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] eWeek coverage of LibreOffice

2010-10-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
Andrea Pescetti wrote: I wonder whether this paragraph from the above article is true: --- LibreOffice will have a dual license, falling under LGPLv3+ and MPL (GNU Lesser General Public License and Mozilla Public License). --- or if it just one of the many unsourced, unchecked

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Nino! Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 10:08 +0200 schrieb Nino Novak: [...] On Monday 04 October 2010 23:54, Christoph Noack wrote: ... Step forward, and share your thoughts, too, please! But how to get started ... I mean ... without a wiki to document the statements. A wiki is a

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-05 Thread Benjamin Horst
Hi Christoph, I am happy to be involved, especially in an area where I've had a lot of experience, like with wikis. I am interested in helping this process from initial strategy, to implementation and wiki farming (ongoing maintenance). My technical skills aren't quite strong enough to help

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-05 Thread Benjamin Horst
Clearly, multilingual support will be very important to a successful wiki. Will we have pages generated in one language and then translated to others, or do we expect unique pages to be developed in lots of languages? My guess is that we need to support both--core content will be translated and

[tdf-discuss] Nabble once again

2010-10-05 Thread Drew Jensen
HI, I've gone ahead and updated the Nabble pages to, hopefully, better reflect the structure and to spiff them up a bit. The top level page at: http://documentfoundation.969070.n3.nabble.com/ Updated the description with text from the main web site. Added a SUB-Forum page for LibreOffice The

Re: [tdf-discuss] Nabble once again

2010-10-05 Thread Drew Jensen
sorry missed the direct URL Added sub page for the Users list. http://documentfoundation.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot

[tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
Not sure where thinking is on this for LiBO at the moment, but is it concievable that updating even to each new version could, after a User response, be automatic and if elected by the User - replace the previous version automatically please? Paul -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Nabble once again

2010-10-05 Thread Drew Jensen
Last update for tonight I think. At the LibreOffice page: http://documentfoundation.969070.n3.nabble.com/LibreOffice-f1639495.html added the Dev ML http://documentfoundation.969070.n3.nabble.com/Dev-f1639786.html -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-05 Thread Goran Rakic
У сре, 06. 10 2010. у 13:22 +1300, Paul A Norman пише: Not sure where thinking is on this for LiBO at the moment, but is it concievable that updating even to each new version could, after a User response, be automatic and if elected by the User - replace the previous version automatically

Re: [tdf-discuss] Government of TDF

2010-10-05 Thread Varun Mittal
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
What I have found is that under OOO I have always been left with install directories with Mbs of space used for previous installations, the uninstall or new install doesn't seem to have removed them. I have been thinking tha it would be neat to have as it were, one install of LiBO and have it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Furry
On 05/10/10 07:36 PM, Paul A Norman wrote: What I have found is that under OOO I have always been left with install directories with Mbs of space used for previous installations, the uninstall or new install doesn't seem to have removed them. I have been thinking tha it would be neat to have

Re: [tdf-discuss] Godot's official statement

2010-10-05 Thread Erich Christian
Hi, Am 06.10.2010 01:26, schrieb Andy Brown: On Tue Oct 05 2010 15:16:39 GMT-0700 (PDT) Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Andy Brown schrieb: If you take it a face value then there is no way that Oracle is going to hand over the trademark or anything else to the community that has helped build